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PSA: Come on people... Down with Napatha, up with Novus 2!

By Otaku

6 years ago


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    #54 6 years ago

    It seems like you are doing that thing where you make an "edgy" or "rad" (what do the kids say?) thread and then hope to get fallout(??) and then complain or act shocked when you get fallout.

    On topic, old dirty EM's like Novus 2. New games like a microfiber towel. I agree naptha stinks and I wouldn't use it. Novus 2 may be toxic but doesn't seem to put off fumes/gases that immediately hit the air returns in my house and poison everyone (I have to work on games inside).

    Happy Friday! Cheers to your health!

    #77 6 years ago
    Quoted from Otaku:

    You guys are very welcome to rot in your filth if you please and thankfully many people here have enough of a brain to not get over-involved in Pinside

    Nice guy!! Start a smart ass thread that half insults people and act shocked when you get blowback...then call everybody names and leave. I agree, there are some dicks on the internet, and pinside can be negative, but you really bring it on yourself with your own tone. Stop with the "old guys are all wrong" shtick. As an old guy myself, it's tiring...though everything is when you are old...so. What was I talking about?

    And I AGREE with you on your actual topic!

    #106 6 years ago

    Can everybody just go here...this is a thread is a slow-burn rehash: Cleaning and Waxing Pinball Machines - Vid's Guide

    So on older playfields, we don't want to be using any water based cleaners.
    We want to avoid things like Simple Green, Windex, Orange Power.... even Novus #1.
    Let's define older as any playfield not having an automotive style clearcoat like Classic Bally, Classic Stern, EM, or Williams Sys3-11.

    First we need to understand that not all pinball playfields were created the same:
    An old Classic Bally, Classic Stern, EM, or Williams Sys3-11 will have an Alcohol Soluble lacquer topcoat.
    A Williams WPC or Modern Stern will have an automotive style clearcoat.
    A modern reproduction playfield (like a Mirco or CPR) will have an automotive style clearcoat.
    A professionally restored playfield will often have an automotive style clearcoat, although that is certainly not guaranteed.
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    So a cleaner that might be great for a Modern Stern, could actually damage a SS Bally.
    A cleaner that would be OK for a perfect WPC, might damage a worn or planked WPC.
    One size doe not fit all when it comes to cleaning a playfield.
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    We also need to remember that at least 5 different companies made the playfields for Bally/Stern/Williams.
    Each may have had differences in the topcoat; thickness, chemical composition and the method of application all could vary.

    and on and on and on for 23 pages....

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