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Prototyping a "Hardtop" (High Speed)


By Skypilot

1 year ago



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#201 14 days ago
Quoted from ruralcollector:

Sad news folks...
ANNOUNCEMENT: As of today, July 2, 2019, no new orders will be accepted until further notice.
PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PLACE A NEW ORDER AT THIS TIME.
We've had to temporarily shut down operations for several months while we retool our production. Never fear, we will be resuming production of our Hardtops and Wall Graphics. We just can't take new orders or make any products until our new systems and printers are up and running.
All orders that have already been submitted will be completed and shipped on time. However, no new orders will be taken at this time. We have temporarily closed our online store.
When we are ready to take orders again, we will update this site, our Facebook page, and on Pinside.
​We look forward to getting back to business as soon as we can. Have a great summer!

I give up. I'm just going to sell my High Speed with the semi-trashed playfield in it.

#202 14 days ago

It’s July 1st, not April.

Seriously though that’s a bummer. Was going to make an order this weekend, but I guess that’s delayed now. No matter.

#203 14 days ago

Does this sound fishy to anyone else that’s it not a production retooling.

#204 14 days ago
Quoted from nitrojcrawf:

Does this sound fishy to anyone else that’s it not a production retooling.

Yeah, hope I'm wrong - but I don't think they are coming back.
Glad for Skypilot that he got his done, and love my Hardtopped Space Shuttle, but this has a bad feel.

#205 14 days ago

I was just getting ready to redo a Firepower. I waited till I was ready. Hope I’m not up shit creek now.

#206 14 days ago

So when are the orders placed last week supposed to ship? I am getting nervous based on this announcement. Maybe I need to cancel...

#207 13 days ago

Oh boy.... this can't be a good sign.

#208 13 days ago

I emailed and asked about my HS order. The response was that all orders are expected to be shipped by July 12.

#209 8 days ago

Got mine today and already fucked it up. FML...

Mostly good but one obvious one.

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#210 8 days ago
Quoted from darcangeloel:

Got mine today and already fucked it up. FML...
Mostly good but one obvious one.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Sorry to hear you have an issue.
I'm not seeing it. What went wrong?

#211 8 days ago
Quoted from RCA1:

Sorry to hear you have an issue.
I'm not seeing it. What went wrong?

It's 100% my fault. Look closely at two of the upper triangular inserts and you'll see they show just a tiny amount of wood. Otherwise it is flawless. My plan is to say oh well and just play it nothing can be done now lol. The hard top itself looks perfect.

#212 8 days ago
Quoted from RCA1:

What went wrong? You can see the wood around Hideout Jackpot. No one will ever notice & plus i'm 100% sure it looks way better than your old playfield.

#213 8 days ago

It's a world of difference between what it was. It looks 100 times better now even with my error. Ty for the kind words. Kills me to mess stuff like that up but I agree I highly doubt most people will notice /care

#214 8 days ago

Sorry it didn’t go to plan, darcangeloel

Based on your pics, it looks like yours has some uneven lines in areas. Just opened mine and see the same.

I am interested in comparing with others to see if theirs are the same. Attaching some example pics where black outlines are jagged or broken (next to cop car).

Am I being too picky here?

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#215 8 days ago
Quoted from cjchand:

Sorry it didn’t go to plan, darcangeloel
Based on your pics, it looks like yours has some uneven lines in areas. Just opened mine and see the same.
I am interested in comparing with others to see if theirs are the same. Attaching some example pics where black outlines are jagged or broken (next to cop car).
Am I being too picky here?[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

I am not sure what you are asking? Is the protective plastic still on those photos?

#216 8 days ago
Quoted from darcangeloel:

Got mine today and already fucked it up. FML...
Mostly good but one obvious one.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Let it go. The game will be great. You need to realize that that actually happened on the original games in various places. Your game will be awesome!

#217 8 days ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

I am not sure what you are asking? Is the protective plastic still on those photos?

Attaching zoomed pics with some of the items circled, along with a pic from my PF to illustrate what I mean by the edges of the black outlines.

On my PF, the edges of the outlines are smooth. Here, they look like they were scanned from a touched up PF.

Hope that explains what I’m after.

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#218 8 days ago

Well they are the same on my prototype. So maybe I missed it so it’s my fault. Are you being picky ? Not for me to answer but please realize there were many imperfections in the original playfields and mine might have looked just like that. We do our best to make these as good as the originals but we never considered making them improved. Hope you’re able to live with the few imperfections. If not list it for sale. Apparently there still people waiting for them.

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#219 8 days ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

Let it go. The game will be great. You need to realize that that actually happened on the original games in various places. Your game will be awesome!

You sir are awesome thanks for the positive outlook. Other than issue it is prefect and it looks super nice. Thanks for making the prototype!

#220 8 days ago

At least they are consistent

Please don’t take the above as bagging on the product or expecting perfection. Like you said, there are variances galore in these things.

It was more about wondering if what I saw was specific to mine, as well as if waiting out the summer for the retooling would result in any improvements. Seems to be a “no” for the first one, guessing a “no” for the latter

As with this entire thread, I truly appreciate your honesty and hard work. Again, I suspect I am more picky than most

#221 6 days ago

Looks like the police car had a shadow, and that missing Black was actually part of the shadow color, Dark Grey. I wouldn't consider that an issue.

Yeah, some Black borders could have been fixed in software before printing. Of course!

#222 6 days ago

Yes that is the shadow of the police car. For the black border lines, I wonder if the printing process they use could have a slight limitation. Either that or the source image wasn't high res enough. But I still think it looks fantastic.

#223 5 days ago

As far as seeing the wood around the inserts... I saw a photo somewhere of someone who used touchup black paint around the inserts before applying the hardtop which made any minor alignment still look great.

#224 5 days ago

Just curious how many people that ordered on day 1 have received the Hardtop for High Speed or a shopping notification? I see one person has here, just curious. No shipping notification for me yet.

#225 5 days ago
Quoted from kermit24:

Just curious how many people that ordered on day 1 have received the Hardtop for High Speed or a shopping notification? I see one person has here, just curious. No shipping notification for me yet.

Fed Ex says mine should show up tomorrow. I was told that they were "crushed" by HS orders so not surprising it is taking a little bit to get them out.

#226 5 days ago

I placed my order for two on day one. I received them both yesterday.

#227 5 days ago

waiting for mine.....crossing fingers

#228 5 days ago
Quoted from kermit24:

Just curious how many people that ordered on day 1 have received the Hardtop for High Speed or a shopping notification? I see one person has here, just curious. No shipping notification for me yet.

Got mine on 7/8, ordered on 6/25.

#229 5 days ago
Quoted from RobF:

Fed Ex says mine should show up tomorrow. I was told that they were "crushed" by HS orders so not surprising it is taking a little bit to get them out.

Would be really interested in how many orders they received. I'm presuming the reason for the pause to retool is because they feel demand is sufficient to make it worthwhile. Hoping that's the case, as I want them to continue.

#230 5 days ago
Quoted from cjchand:

Would be really interested in how many orders they received. I'm presuming the reason for the pause to retool is because they feel demand is sufficient to make it worthwhile. Hoping that's the case, as I want them to continue.

Hardtops are a hobby sideline in a Graphic Arts business. I suspect the business is upgrading and so the "surplus" time and equipment to do Hardtops is going away. But the new stuff will probably have more capability, be faster, more accurate, yada, yada. Good things to come. Unfortunately, more waiting.

#231 5 days ago

Got mine couple days ago.

#232 5 days ago

I'm super bummed out that I didn't order mine in time before they shut down. If some one ordered an extra and wants to sell let me know.

#233 5 days ago

I predict 50 restored High Speeds hitting the market in the next month or Two. In a few weeks or so, CPR ships their new playfields. (Very sold out and not taking orders btw)

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#234 5 days ago
Quoted from turbo2nr:

I predict 50 restored High Speeds hitting the market in the next month or Two. In a few weeks or so, CPR ships their new playfields. (Very sold out and not taking orders btw)
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I have followed CPR quite close for a long time while I was waiting for Diner to be done. I have never seen them mention High Speed in all of that time. Where was this discussed? All I'm aware of is that it sounds like CPR did HS years ago and those have all been used up in projects or never come up for sale.

#235 5 days ago

They had a pre-order like, 2yrs ago! Lol

Some schmucks have been waiting this whole time with their name on the list amd a small deposit.

No way I'd wait that long.
I and others have already been pestering them trying to fill a spot if people cancel.

They got the cnc machining done for the wood about a month ago and in que for printing. Almost ready for shipping.

#236 5 days ago

Strange. I ordered day 1 also and have not heard a peep from them.

#237 5 days ago
Quoted from kermit24:

Strange. I ordered day 1 also and have not heard a peep from them.

I got my "It's shipped" notice about 3 hours after it arrived

Only reason I knew it was coming is that I've signed up with FedEx to email me anytime a package is shipped to my house. Hope yours is just silently in transit, too.

#238 5 days ago
Quoted from turbo2nr:

They had a pre-order like, 2yrs ago! Lol
Some schmucks have been waiting this whole time with their name on the list amd a small deposit.
No way I'd wait that long.
I and others have already been pestering them trying to fill a spot if people cancel.
They got the cnc machining done for the wood about a month ago and in que for printing. Almost ready for shipping.

Interesting. That feels like about the same time I waited for Diner to be done and don’t remember ever seeing anything on their pre-order page. My fiend and my self both have HS games that we would have signed up for had we seen them. No matter. I own both of those games now and when they re-open I will be ordering 2 HS Hardtops. I wanted to get them day one, but had some other pinball repair expenses happen to games on route so I had to pause on the Hardtop. Was going to be able to buy the day after the announcement that they are retooling. I’ll be ready to order when they are back up.

#239 5 days ago
Quoted from kermit24:

Strange. I ordered day 1 also and have not heard a peep from them.

Me too.

#240 5 days ago
Quoted from RobF:

Fed Ex says mine should show up tomorrow. I was told that they were "crushed" by HS orders so not surprising it is taking a little bit to get them out.

Check that. Showed up today.

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#241 5 days ago

I haven't heard from them either so I emailed them this morning. They said my order would be shipping by Monday the 15th.

#242 4 days ago

Have not seen my Hardtop yet.
I guess I am in the group that ships Monday then?

CPR has finished the Inserts for HS replacement playfield.

On to the printing! (They told me yesterday)

Any day now they start shipping the playfields that were ordered years ago. lol

I have my name at the top of the waiting list, in case someone backs out from the pre-order.

#243 3 days ago
Quoted from turbo2nr:

Have not seen my Hardtop yet.
I guess I am in the group that ships Monday then?
CPR has finished the Inserts for HS replacement playfield.
On to the printing! (They told me yesterday)
Any day now they start shipping the playfields that were ordered years ago. lol
I have my name at the top of the waiting list, in case someone backs out from the pre-order.

Is it normal for CPR to not mention a playfield they are making? No mention of High Speed on the website.

#244 1 day ago

FYI - My High Speed Hardtop arrived today. No shipping notification.

#245 1 day ago
Quoted from kermit24:

Is it normal for CPR to not mention a playfield they are making? No mention of High Speed on the website.

You are 2yrs too late to order

#246 1 day ago

Why is it that they list some playfields in production, CNC cutting, fitting inserts or whatever but not others?

Doesn't make sense.

#247 1 day ago

Let's stop talking about CPR playfields and lets start posting photos of our High Speed Hardtop installations and progress.
Mine arrived on Friday and like many of you, I didn't receive a shipping notice - just a nice surprise on the porch. I am still working on stripping the playfield. I'm fairly new into the hobby and have never stripped a playfield before or attempted anything like this for that matter... But I've been following the guides and other advice everyone's been kind enough to post and I've been taking my time.
So, start posting those progress photos...

#248 1 day ago

Agreed, by the way be glad you do not have to populate the underside of your games. Slows things down tremendously.

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#249 1 day ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

Agreed, by the way be glad you do not have to populate the underside of your games. Slows things down tremendously.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Yikes! Looks like your backbox was as bad off as mine. Rebuilding one from scratch since mine is held together by L-brackets.

Putting that aside to get started on my Hardtop this weekend!

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#250 1 day ago

skypilot If I may be so bold, any chance you will share an estimate on the number of folks who ordered HS Hardtops? Wondering if there’s going to be a flood of restored HS pins hitting the market soon

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