Hi all,

Apologies for posting so many help topics but my new pin is so close to 100% working.

My final issue at the moment is that the actual spinning of the cards isn't working. It just increments to the next card in line. I've done some simple cleaning of the switches on the Spin Relay and Spin Unit, but it's still not working.

One thing I've noticed that may be of note is that on the Spin Unit someone suggested it's supposed to wind up, but it doesn't appear to be doing so. I'm willing to take it apart even though it's a bit daunting, but I'm unsure of exactly what I should do with it once it's apart. If this is even the right thing to do. Someone mentioned a third potential spin mechanism but I cannot find it, if there's supposed to be one.

If anyone can help I'd be most appreciative, then I can quit bothering you guys with questions and get back to enjoying my pin in top shape

Actually now I do see the Spin Pulse Switch, which appears to be part of the Spin Unit.

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I will post some pictures or possibly even a video tonight to show you me manually messing with it. By the spinner, do you mean the little thing that looks like a playfield spinner or the thing connected to the gears? The big gear thing only spins a little bit each direction before stopped by a switch on each side and I am able to spin the spinner thing manually.

I did notice the plunger thing on the coils is pretty dirty. Could powdered graphite help or would I need to take it apart and clean it? Would that even help?

Thank you for the info and video. It does not appear to be getting wound up. I see the one coil pulsing from the bumpers, but the other coil that advances the gears to spin the spinner doesn't seem to be spinning. When moving it manually, it tends to be kinda sticky. Could I just put some graphite powder on the plunger thing that goes into the gear coil? I'm not sure how to go about fixing this even if we do diagnose the problem.

I will take pictures and stuff tonight but it seems like the gear that is supposed to hit the spinner, which makes the switch contact rapidly go on and off is sort of stuck and doesn't spin. I wish I could explain this better, but it sounds like how you said a "frozen wind coil". How would I fix that?

Nah it isn't melted or rusted. I found this from another thread, which better describes what I'm trying to

"On the bottom board, to the right of the score motor, is the spin unit. This is a stepper with a small rectangular metal spinner and a bakelite finger attached to the stepper gear shaft. The finger is positioned such that it can flick the spinner and make it spin.

The spin unit steps up several times to wind up its torsion return spring. (This is what isn't working, the gears on the other side appear to be stuck.)

When the spin function is activated, the reset coil of the spin unit stepper is energized, releasing the gear and allowing the torsion spring to snap the finger back to the reset position. As the finger snaps back, it flicks the spinner and makes it spin. A switch attached to the metal spinner pulses the spin pulse relay."

I know you basically said this in your posts but wanted to call out for my own sake where I think my issue is originating from

Thanks for the pics, based on your steps it seems to stop working at the ratcheting of the score motor. Is this also referred to as a stepper unit? Should I take it apart and clean it?

Nope, when I move the plunger the gear tries to turn but gets stuck like it's gummed up

Actually I think it does start ratcheting up a bit after it get warmed up but whenever the other plunger shoots in to release the board that's supposed to spin the spinner, that thing just lazily moves back instead of snapping back to spin the spinner

Also something to note is this all worked fine up until a few days ago

Sort of. It tries to and often fails but sometimes it sort of works. It definitely never kicks the teardrop board to the spinner.

Will do, thank you for the help sir. I'll probably tinker with it this weekend. Feel a cold coming on though

Would powdered graphite be good for this or is there a specific type of oil?

What's interesting that I've noticed is that the first 3-4 times after I turn the machine on, the spinner will work fine but then stops. I still haven't gotten around to opening it back up again but once my new bulbs come in I'll tinker on it again.