The STLE @ Pagg sold for $6100...

Yep and it was routed and the guy needed cash ASAP. Let's not pretend that is the norm.

Everyone selling needs money...duh. How routed is routed?

Why not? When a pin sells for more than what it's worth everyone who sells the same pin after that expects it to be the new norm.

Good for the folks who like it, but IMO it's not one of Stern's best efforts.

I think far more buyers of the LE paid near $7800 than you seem to think.

I'm sure at some point your friend will find an LE at $6250. But I doubt it will be HUO or in 2014. Under $7k now? Sure. But not 10% under.

Hard to take anyone seriously in this thread? If you only want data from people who have tried to sell their game, maybe the lack of such responses tells you something.

So true. Remember all of the corportae 10Q's and 10K's with their own "Tragic events of Sept. 11th" sections that lingerd on for years blaming poor results on this? It seems that many industries/market segments are blaming poor results on this past Winter's shitty weather. What a joke.

8k game? Uh, no. 6250 game? Yeah, no.

Great shots, flow, speed, color, design, toys.
Rules? Meh. Not horrible but not polished either.

I would call this the 1987 grand national of pins. Came out new overpriced, hasn't made a name for itself yet, but future looks bright for this title. I can easily see this staying near new pricing if rules are up to pf design speed.

Whysnow, you have a good thread idea, but your implementation seems sided to what YOU want to hear.

You guys are arguing about a few hundred bucks

$6250 vs $6500 vs $6750

I think that's all ballpark

Do let us know if he's getting any interest/responses at that price point. Nothing beats a market test!

All I have to say is the pro is well worth the money!

One sold at PAGG festival for 6100.00 but it was routed, it still looked very new. I was bummed I missed it at that price.

I agree, I think the pro models are always, "well worth the money". The problem with the premium and the LE, if they are not "Great" than the price will eventually be close to the price of the Pro. In my opinion, this is more about the inventory of "Great" games and the prices they sell for. ST is a good game, above average theme, above average lighting, but the price is high and the modes definitely all feel the same.

Just some thoughts after reading everything. If your buddy wants the game.....why wait (say 6 mos) to save a few hundred bucks? Isn't the fun you would have worth anything? Also waiting could mean it goes up too.

It's seems the goal here is to play the market just right....you are probably better off playing the actual stock market, make the $300 and just buy the pin and have fun with it.

Ps.....we spent $300 in boat gas and beer this weekend

Exactly! In my words it would be "Stop being such a pussy and buy the damn game."

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I have a prem. first nib ever price is trending down as wouldbe expected but not materially easily a 6100 + game all day. Metallica is fun too but Iove the theme too.

Also if the extra money for the premium over pro is irrelevant to the purchase decision the changing LEDs Klingon multiball laser show left lane ball save and extra vengeance moves are worth it jus sayin

That's the way I feel about it also. If ya wait 6 months for it to come down 400-600 over that time period the game will have 400-600 bucks more wear on it to justify the price drop. I had to pass on the LE that was for sale 10 miles away from me which would have saved me 500-600 bucks in shipping which really made it attractive for me. I love my Pro but now I want the bling. Ya get what ya pay for.

The guy needed the money to buy another pin then and there. It was routed, not HUO. The fact is, if $6100 is now the price then whysnow's buddy will have one in his house tonight.

Something tells me he'll be sitting at home pulling his pud with $6250 in his pocket.

Oh please. I owned the pin and got rid of it too. A lot of what you have spewed in this thread is just untrue crap, like saying that $7800.00 for STLE NIB was the highest price you had seen. What a joke that is!

The more of your posts that I read in this thread, the more I'm beginning to think that it is nothing but a troll thread, with a weak attempt at trying to convince people that their STLE value is taking a huge crap and is only worth $6250.00.

It's not, and it isn't.

Exactly.

Yep, I bit at first and tried to help and be realistic. Then as he agreed continuously with gambit despite the vast majority saying otherwise I figured out the game.

"My buddy's offering X, they aren't selling, he's content as his offering price (despite it being insultingly low), wait on code, blah, blah"

The first thing that I thought when I saw the title was "whysnow's already knows the price and deal with STLE why would he even be asking" but I played right into it anyway.

Just seems silly to me to ask: what's a fair price, so that I can wait for it to come down a couple hundred from there?
Using that mentality, somebody's friend isn't really looking to buy a game.

Edit: serious buyers find fair market value, then add $100 and ask friends to come over to play it on the weekend.
Just sayin.

Sure. Just like every other Stern for years and years now. Why is it that people have suddenly developed amnesia when it comes to Star Trek? Unlike Metallica we don't even need inside info to know a major code update is coming, it's public knowledge. And still ...

It's a joke, but whatever, tell your friend to have fun waiting for his $6250 LE.

This STLE was in Phoenix Games , played mostly by tournament players & collectors. It was maintained , not moved to multiple locations ( bars , pizza places, etc. )

Good info, but still routed.

Without having to find the thread didn't he need the money for a game he wanted ASAP at PAGG?

Hey WAKE UP.....this is fun stuff here.

If he doesn't want to buy right now, why post this (troll) thread?

He bought a nib METLE .

and we all know what can happen to routed games, not saying what this game was like but we all know what can happen.

Tell your buddy to buy some Apple stock now, WWDC kicks off tomorrow, stock is already up $100 per share since earnings announcement a month ago, currently at $633, splits 7 for 1 tomorrow, then when it gets to $700 or $100 a share split adjusted, use the profits to get a free pin.

Since we are talking market moves here, buy low, sell high, that kind of thing

Wow, I agree with what you say here regarding repetitiveness (didn't I get slammed around here for daring to express that opinion in the past?) and the price. I have my doubts that new code will refresh this game and make it a long-term keeper, but time will tell. It shoots fast, mainly because there's not much to shoot at. For me, that's an indication that rules may not be able to compensate for the lack of shot variety, and that more people will sell as they get bored with it. I don't buy a lot of games, but I definitely passed on ST after playing it. Interesting that some former owners came to the same conclusion. I still don't get the repeated "buy now, then see if it's a good game" mentality. Maybe for a console video game, but for a pinball machine that costs several thousand dollars? When pin prices drop after you open the box--and stay dropped--as they should, maybe we'll see more discretionary purchases in the hobby. Or maybe not.

Oh come on, you just described 90% of the people here, who would happily buy a popular game if it popped up significantly under market.

Your pathetic attempts at manipulating the market amuse me

all the bumps, bruises, scrapes if not moved with care, beer being spilled on it, people banging it around and if the bar allows smoking well that's a whole different kind abuse...and smell.

Star Trek is a fantastic game.
Relative to how many LE were made 799 units, there really is not that many for sale.
The added eye candy and the gorgeous screened backglass is what sold me.

With the additional speech pack and more code it will only get better, prices should level off if not increase just a little.
I'd say mid to upper 7's.

The market saturation of LE's has taken a toll. Only so many buyers, so much in the pocketbook and gamerooms with so much room.

I sold my STLE for $7200 off of a simple Craigslist add last Sunday (I actually had a fair amount of interest in the game) I put 400+ games on it in 6 months and enjoyed it very much, but I wanted MB back in the line up so I sold STLE and picked up this really nice MB... It was in home use since 1999.. she is a beaut Clark!
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STLE will never be worth more than METLE and it's going for high 6's / low 7's.

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Well, I've only bought NIB pins twice without playing first: XMLE and STLE. Every other NIB pin I have bought I played first to make sure that I liked it (AC/DC and MET).

The two NIBs that I bought without playing first haven't worked out that good for me. I've learned my lesson.

In the past I have said that if Stern releases a zombie pin, that would be one that would make me buy sight unseen. I am pretty sure that TWD will be Stern's next pin. I will *not* be buying it until I get the chance to play it.

Don't you feel guilty for ripping someone off by $1000.00?!

Awesome, glad you finally landed one. I know you've been looking for awhile.

But you're smart enough to know that it's a worthless offer, so why are we even discussing it? Great, a routed one sold at a show for cheap because someone wanted the cash right then and there for a pin. There are deals every day. I missed out on a $800 EATPM to a flipper, he sold it at auction later for $2300. Does that make EATPM a $800 pin or a $2300 pin?

NIB Premiums are still being made for $6500, unless the LE is trashed or someone is desperate for cash it's pretty unlikely they're going to go for below that.

Serious question, where are the sales for high 6's METLE? I've seen the low 7's, and Bryan got impatient enough to list his for 7, but where are the 6's?

OK, extremely high 6's and extremely low 7's. Two sold local for 6.9 & 7.0. Brian's will be there too obviously. There's another one on Pinside now for 7.2 and that's the asking price. Another for 7.3 asking. It's already started Aurich... there just isn't enough demand to continue supporting these LE's in the high 7's and that's for a METLE. It'll get worse for Mustang and STLE. They are not in the same league as METLE according to most here. Ask anyone if they'd take a Mustang LE, STLE or METLE for the same price and METLE would be picked 8 or 9 out of 10.

Well Rob, I will be buying two LE's. One Rick Grimes LE and one Zombie LE.

Sight unseen for this title. Aww yeah...

Excited!

I feel your excitement!