For sure trending down. That may change when the Urban voice pack comes out though.

Current trend down but not by much.
Will trend up and down with code release and when Stern stops production it gets real interesting.

ST seemed like a pretty well received game. Not sure where you got the impression it's a stinker. Love mine. But hey what do I know, I also love my xmen pro. Maybe I just have horrible taste in pins.

Boat anchor right now

I traded for another machine + $$$. I am very pleased with my deal, but I would have never sold it for a number starting with 7. It was just sitting.

Wall Street would blame the harsh weather in the first quarter...

Yes some, only some have sold theirs. But st has great potential and SR is not going to quit now on this game. I'm still liking it...but then again I like sm, im, lotr and woz as well. Maybe I have bad taste in pins as well.

Wall Street isn't blaming anything on anything. Maybe analysts are blaming numbers on weather. But Wall Street is honey badger right now.

I think 7100-7400 shipped was the range NIB. I dropped to $6800 and had a few nibbles before the trade was made, but no one was jumping at it. I kept running into people telling me they see selling from. $6100 (routed one on fire sale) to $6500 (HUO supposedly sold in Cali off the board, but I saw no confirmation).

I have no idea when it is coming, but I am sure there will be some code work too. They need to work on the modes and give them some individuality for sure.

A bit higher than that around here. $7,800 would have been common during the initial LE release.

I wish him well, but there is no way I would sell for that price. Perhaps someone will.

Def trending down but $6250 prob isn't a high enough bounty to get a nice HUO example.

PS it's not a "boat anchor" it's a good game and likely only getting better. I have an METLE and an STLE. The STLE gets more plays from my non-pinhead friends. And it's not even close.

True. Nice first quarter with -1% GDP?! And yet, record highs?

That's what I was quoted originally. I backed out and got a refund. I bought one months later at a lower price.

I just sold my STLE to a Chicagoland buyer 3 weeks ago. $7150. HUO with 180 plays.

It's a high price point. Not many want to pay that kind of coins for an unfinished game. Totally understandable.

I think your buddy could get a steal if he catches the right seller. Not saying that it's not possible. $6250 would really be a great deal for an STLE. I wish your buddy luck and hope lands one.

STLE got boring real fast. Faster than any other pin I have owned. I think it is the most beautiful pin ever made, but the playfield just doesn't have much to shoot at. Every mode felt the same. I don't see how new code will change it much.

Sadly, I concur with this sentiment for the most part. Wow looking. Meh playing. Blah modes. They will improve it, and it has potential to be really good. I doubt great, but few truly are, after the honeymoon is over. I prefer Metallica, easily.

If he wants to spend $6250 for an LE he can just skip buying the game, no one is going to be dumb enough to sell that low any time soon unless they're just desperate for instant cash or something. A Premium? Yeah sure, that's just a couple hundred under NIB, that's normal depreciation. Good luck though, because Premiums aren't popping up on the market much, just the LEs, probably because some people bought them in a rush because they were LEs, and didn't really want the actual game that badly, and aren't willing to wait out the code.

It's the same old story, Metallica is a great game, but only if you bought it recently or waited out the code drought.

I doubt he gets much interest at $6250. Everyone wants $7200+ for theirs, and they sit. The truth is in the middle. If he really would like to have one, he should offer $6700 as a standing offer.

Prices are certainly trending down now, but I really believe that will only be temporary until we see the version 2 code - that is going to determine the long term trend. Personally, I really believe the trend will turn and stay up by the end of the year.

It doesn't seem to me that there have been a lot for sale relative to the numbers out there, but rather normal turnover from the early adopters/buyers. STLE is certainly no X-Men and owners won't wait as long for finished code as some of the other recent titles.

Unless someone really don't like the game or need the $/space, I think selling now (and certainly selling at a loss) is a risky bet against SR and the code update.

Stop buying incomplete games

Save your buddy!

Star Trek is not a stinker. Anyone who sold their's prior to the next code update is shooting themselves in the foot.

You wouldn't be biased on the theme, now would you, Captain_Kirk?

Nope, just common sense. I see prior X-Men owners re-buying that game....

I bought a Premium because I thought the LE was too overpriced. So I'm not really caring about defending it's value. It's just that they made a ton of them, people rushed to grab them at first after the Metallica disaster, and now you're seeing some on the market. It's hardly the sky falling. The vast majority of the sales here are of LEs, not Premium or Pros. That's more an indictment of the model than the game.

Personally I still enjoy mine, not looking to sell in the slightest. I hope the new code really takes to to a better place, no question, but it's far from a "boat anchor" IMHO.

All that said, I hope prices are trending down. Sick of them going up. We should get to a place where you lose value when you open the box, that's normal and healthy.

I got an idea, how about you not ask for peoples opinion if you don't want their opinion then. You could easily rename this to thread to, "I'm only going to listen to the one person whom agrees with my thoughts."

Do I own, ST? Yes
Do I think it's a great game? Nope
Do I think it has a potential to be a great game? Not really either
Are people dumping their games? Nope

Does any of the above mean they are selling for $6250 now? Nope... Even your one supporter for the game sucking and being a "boat anchor" agrees that the number out there is wishful thinking.

The value of the pin is a boat anchor. The pin itself is fine. But let's not pretend that the market hasn't taken a big dump on the title.

a moment of silence *cough* for "the king"

No bigger than most other games. Heck, the "value" of this title is not different than METLE and I consider METLE a better game. You didn't see people paying $10K for STLE like you did for METLE and from what I've seen they are selling for about the same these days. "Boat anchor" would be XMLE, AVLE, TFLE. I don't consider $400-$500 depreciation in aprox 6 months timeline at boat anchor. That's just normal depreciation of a pin. Just another solid reason why it's not smart to buy these things as investments too.

I'd Argue that the market is starting to take a bit of a dump on pinball in general (not just this title) and I for one feel it's about time. To many games out there to be paying some of the stupid prices for these new pins now until they are proven. You can feel things changing and quick.

Good thread... I have been in the market for a HUO or VGC Pro. I have only seen three for sale - $4,400, $4,100 and $4,250. My rationale is if the Pro is still over $4k then the LE should still be over $6,500. That may not be the best logic though. Somebody tell me now if the ST Pro is going to be listed for $3,500 after the new code!

I have seen XMEN LE for sale at $5,000 several times. And I passed on a HUO Pro for $3,400... yeah that was dumb on my part.

I agree that it got boring, but I disagree with the speed in which it got boring. It actually took awhile for me to get to that point. I think it has to do with the fact that the pin actually does shoot great. I like the layout for the most part. But the 18 modes do all feel pretty much the same like you said, and when you have 18 modes, I think it takes a longer ball time type of game to get more from the game, and ST had somewhat shorter ball times for me at first. So I would keep banging away at it...trying to get further into the modes. Once I was able to do so, but still not get anywhere close to 18 modes, it became more obvious that it was repetitive and boring.

The code update will definitely improve the game, I have no doubt about that. What I do doubt is whether it would change enough to make the game a lot different than it is now.

Anyway, regarding prices, if anyone thinks they are getting a STLE for $6250.00 they are smoking some strong shit. Yeah, the value has dropped, but it hasn't tanked to that degree. The cheapest price that I know of one selling for is $6700.00, and I know of another that sold in the same week as that one for $7200.00.

Not this prior owner, you don't.

Then you simply were not paying attention when these first when up for sale. That was a very common price by reputable distributors when STLE was first sold.

That's more an indictment of the model than the game.

All that said, I hope prices are trending down. Sick of them going up. We should get to a place where you lose value when you open the box, that's normal and healthy.

Couldn't agree more with these two sections of your post.

$7,850 and $7,900 was the preorder price I was quoted for STLE. I do know of two guys that bought NIB at a much lower price than I was quoted by the same distributor. I waited and bought used. I think the only way this guy will get a STLE for $6,250 is if the new code doesn't hit before the next title is announced and people want to free up cash for the next big thing.