I own TSPP
I think $4K is just too damn much for this game
I'm not sure what I'd offer because I'd just wait for a HUO one to roll my way at a similar price.
Whatever you pay for it here's some advice. Remove the I&S protector, mask the top of it off with tape & then spray paint the other side bright yellow (the part that faces the PF). Remove tape & reapply I&S protector. Now shit will look bright yellow & clean!
In my opinion TSPP is the greatest game ever made. Get one!
Yes, I thought the I&S hole looked pretty beat up, too. I've heard great things about this title and would really like to find one, but this might be one to pass on. Thanks for the advice.
Looks pretty good, WA pins run a little higher price and pdxmonkey was right, shooter lane and cab wear will tell, if I wanted one I would go $3700 offer, up to $3800
No way for $4000 if the the itchy and scratchy hole is indicative of the rest of the game. I would like to see more pics, but for $4000 you should be getting a game in spectacular condition. I agree with those saying well under $3500.
I don't think it's a bad price, but the cab is where it will really tell. Look for flipper button wear, as well as the front, which if it was a chuck e cheese routed game, they enjoyed cleaning the decals with an insanely strong cleaner it seems, and many look faded around the start button and other areas because of this.
Still the most underrated, undervalued machine ever made for what you get.
Locally you'd be hard pressed to find one for less then 4k. It really depends on your local market. 3800-4500 would be my guess
Tspp is awesome, nice huo ones go for around 4500, I would say just under 4k would be fair, if someone offers 3800 or so Id take it if I were you.
Quoted from oropuro:How much for a clean routed one?
From an operator $3000-3200 from a pinsider 3300-3600
If the flipper buttons are not worn 4k is solid with led's. It's local so you save 100-500 in delivery.
I love the answers above.......hell no 3800 tops. Ha, so for 200 on a title you are going to dick around?
Quoted from shlockdoc:If the flipper buttons are not worn 4k is solid with led's. It's local so you save 100-500 in delivery.
I love the answers above.......hell no 3800 tops. Ha, so for 200 on a title you are going to dick around?
I wouldn't dick around. I would RUN FAST from a TSPP that has this wear for 4K! There is a lot of good advice in this thread. You can buy a better TSPP for 4K.
This protector from pinbits looks like it would cover the damage so you can't see it.
http://www.pinbits.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=74
Those I&S holes can be weird
I bought a pristine perfect low play HUO mint as new as one can get TSPP without it being NIB.
After a month of my play a few flakes of paint/clear popped off the I&S saucer. I put some hard as nails over the small chips & installed the metal protector (the clear one was sold out at the time).
Meanwhile there's a TSPP @ CP's which has more plays than I can count (20,000?) & the unprotected I&S is flawless... What. The. Fudge!
I'm not saying this game pictured in the thread is a low play HUO example BTW, just sharing my personal experience with the I&S saucer.
It's funny that there's a search for them now. I had mine listed in December at $4500 and nobody wanted one although it was a bad time with the holidays. It was a (undocumented) HUO machine that was very nice. I let it go for $4000 so I could move it to get something else which I still haven't found yet. So they're out there. Here's my ad to give you an idea. Not sure if you're willing to come up to 4k but you should be able to find one.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/undocumented-2005-build-huo-tspp-in-se-pa-4400#post-2104971
I am confident that the true way to tell how many plays are on a TSPP is the amount of hand wear around the flipper buttons. It is a much better indicator of how much the game has been played/abused. It is the one pic that is missing in the first post. So, I implore the OP to provide a close-up of each side's flipper buttons and I will tell you how far off from 4K the game is actually worth (to me).
Sure, there are many additional factors to look at besides the I & S wear. All added up, only the buyer can know if the game will make sense for them to buy. Opinions abound in every "what's it worth" thread. I am trying to help the OP make an informed decision. If you can honestly say the same, I'm sure he/she is grateful.
Oh, and the increased popularity may have something to do with it being the next color DMD title.
Quoted from snyper2099:Oh, and the increased popularity may have something to do with it being the next color DMD title.
VERY good point!
Hard to say with no pics of the cabinet or shooter lane. A jacked up cabinet and/or jacked up cabinet artwork could drop the value another $500. Based on the pics provided, I'd say $3500 is fair. $4000-$4200 can buy you a low play, home use only, near mint example.
Quoted from snyper2099:I am confident that the true way to tell how many plays are on a TSPP is the amount of hand wear around the flipper buttons. It is a much better indicator of how much the game has been played/abused.
Agreed. And whatever you do don't turn your lightly routed pin into a heavily routed pin with a magic eraser!
Edit to add, I paid $3700 for this one last fall.
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