I have seen two locally on craigslist since X-mas between 4500-4900 both said HUO. Unfortunately I was too busy to jump on either. I saw one posted on ebay with a ton of upgrades out west for around 5200. It was gone within a couple hours. I love LOTR but my personal limit is 5k for one. I think around 4800-5200 is a fair price for a LOTR with no mods.