I know little about Baywatch, but agree with your assessment on the DMD. Game is a slow sell for what I've seen, but decent prices. Perhaps $1700 in nice shape. May be wrong, dunno. I would def. subtract for those condition issues.

Demolition Man is a $1800-$2200 game usually, depending on condition. High end is nice overall shape, reasonable if not nice handles and shopped. No DMD issues, perhaps LEDs all around. Again, I would not pay that for your buddies.

Baywatch: Check the power connection to the DMD @ the DMD. Mine was doing the same. Brittle connector, R&R low $$ fix. Good luck!

Well to check the rest of the game, you can just shut the cryo claw off in the settings. When the claw is lit the shot will just loop around and start one of the things you normally select with the claw.

As for what is wrong with it, that comes down to standard diagnostics with a meter. Fuses, the magnet itself, broken wire, the causes are endless. Start simple and work your way forward and backward from there. If you're not getting power to the magnet, go back. If you are, the magnet is bad. Just figure out part by part how far things are getting. The. Figure out your next direction. Oh, and of course check every fuse. Pull out one end and heck it with the meter, don't trust looking at it.

I know someone with a minty DM that's he'll sell for $2200 right now. Contact me if interested. Located in SE WI.

Baywatch is very hard to move. Took 6 months to move one that practically looked like it just came out of the box for $1400.

That looks like a $2500 package deal IMO. Break that price up however you like, but any more than that...

Demo Man - I don't know anything about those issues so maybe I am more scared than I should be, but I am of the opinion that only a top of the line DM fetches $2k...so non-working? Sub $1500 probably?

Baywatch - the display shouldn't be a big deal. Had a Maverick (another big DMD pin) years ago before I knew anything about repair. The DMD would behave as you describe, I would "Fonzie" (bang on) the backbox and it would come back on. Eventually got worse so I had to do something. I don't recall exactly what I did but I do remember that there is a flaw in the wiring on those big DMD's that causes them to not get enough power (?) or something to that effect. I remember doing something to the wires and it fixed it forever. Google it, RGP search it...I don't think it's a big concern. If the display was bad I don't believe it would present like you describe.

The other issues sound a lot like switch issues, either trough opto's (does it have those? If so they are notoriously flaky but can be replaced for about $9 each), regular trough switch(es) or shooter lane. Never owned a Baywatch but if it has a magnet then magnetized balls have been known to cause problems like feeding an extra ball to the trough.

Bottom line, I think I could fix the BW for $20 but if I am wrong and it needs a new display that's $450 alone. The DM I wouldn't have a clue.

Try reseating the ribbon cables for the display, if the game has been sitting for a while they can get a little tarnish build up on the pins (clays guides talk about this). I had a t2 with the same display problem, and after removing the ribbon cable a.few times to clean the contacts, the game worked perfectly. The guy who.sold it to me said the display was bad, but after reading clays guides, it was just dirty cables.

Sorry I read your post wrong, I thought the display problem was on the DM.

the 5 V's for those displays are very very picky. even when used all the time they flake out. Stern has an updated cable for that. I was told they will send you one if it's flaky.

Stern?

Stern used to be Sega and Data East. They still somewhat support their old games.

Neo,

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EV

Guess I didn't realize they still offered parts this far out.

Stern still has parts for DE machines?? Wow, that would be cool.

There is a DM or two near me in PA for sale, too. Not sure of OPS location.

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I bought a mint perfect one for 1400.

I regret selling a mint perfect one for $1400. Brg126 I'm still interested in taking the bay watch off your hands, stay in touch.

Will do, man. I'm a man of my word. If/when I sell it: It'll go to you for sure - for the same price.

Haha no worries glad it's being enjoyed. I'll find one, got my TFTC for trade right now if you know of anyone looking for one of those.

I had a similar DMD problem on my JD and had to replace the board. Every other line was working & it wasn't the power supply. (K's Arcade less than $100 w/shipping)
I hope you got a good deal. It sounds like a lot of work. With all of the risk (and $$$) on you especially if you aren't doing the work yourself. I would agree on a working/need nothing DM at $1800-$2200 ( there is one on Philly CL for 2G-$1900 for a couple of weeks now that looks nice. Baywatch I have seen for $900-1200 (perfect $1400 isn't out of line) But one with issues? I would try to leave a lot of room not to get burned especially for a game you probably won't keep. Good luck, the people on these boards are great & are always willing to help you out if you try to do the work yourself.