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Price check: Data East Batman (1991)

By RobDutch

4 years ago


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#1 4 years ago

I'm currently looking at a Data East Batman and I'm wondering what a good offer would be.
Some details (I don't have photo's yet, they might follow..) :

Cabinet: Great shape and almost no dents/scratches, back box does have a very small amount of damage in the corners.

Playfield: Does have some wear but it is not very disturbing. Joker-ramp does have a little damage between the eyes. Rest of the toys and plastics are in good shape. Everything is working.

Insides: CPU board is not getting the 12 volts it needs and voltage drops when there is a lot going on. If it drops below +/-8 volts, the dmd shuts off or the machine reboots. Rest of the boards are looking good and they are all there. All inserts and flashers are LED as well as the lights behind the backglass. The DMD screen is a pretty recent LED replacement.

Hope you can give me some advice, thanks in advance!

#3 4 years ago

Seller wants €2000 ($2200) as is. It does play 100%, until it shuts off without a warning. I think it needs a full set of new capacitors on the CPU and atleast a couple of hours and a few $100's to find and resolve the problem.

#4 4 years ago

Some photo's.
As you can see the playfield damage is mostly near the flippers and the posts around the center ramp.
Seller thinks I can get €2500/$2750 for it if I fix it.
Can' t find any reference prices..

Anyone?

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#6 4 years ago

PinballManiac40 thank you for your reply! I have seen the machine because I am fixing it for the seller, so I know how the boards look, I know it plays and I know the dmd/gi/sound works. All the boards are original and there has not been worked on any.. except the power supply. (which is what I meant, don't know why I said cpu lol) That board has some work done to it and is currently at my house so I can measure it trough. The battery got relocated to the bottom of the back box before they could leak on the boards.

So I know the machine works, plays even, but sometimes it shuts off without warning.
So I'm thinking of repairing it for him and paying him his asking price (or a bit less) minus the repair costs.

#8 4 years ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

Why not just buy it from him now? Especially if you like playing it.

Well that's the problem a bit, he wants $2200 now as is. But I want to give him $2200 for it after I finished the repairs.
Can upload photo's from the power supply board tomorrow!

#10 4 years ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

It does have a better than average playfield, from what I have been reading the DE Batman playfields are usually in tough shape.
I think you are close in price, with issues though a tough call. If you can do repair yourself not so bad then if boards need repair.

Thanks for your reply. It does have a decent playfield indeed.
The problem is just that I don't know what the repairs are going to cost, but we can do the repairs at home so.
Think I will repair the board and make an offer after it.

#12 4 years ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

I think you are better now making offer, after fixed price will go up.

So I should agree on $2200 for the fixed machine no matter the costs of the repairs?

#21 4 years ago

Thanks everyone for the good input/thoughts!

These are pretty rare in the Netherlands according to the Pinside map. (and the fact that I rarely see them for sale here)
I'm guessing the problem is pretty minor and I can fix it for about $100, but it's a guess..
Just asked the seller again if he wants the $2000 for the broken machine, or for the fixed machine minus. (now I just have to wait for an answer)
As a reference for the price: currently there are 2 Data East Star Trek machines for sale near me, for over $2500 each.

Also: the price is on the higher side, but I think this is an important connection to keep and to keep close. I fixed one of his machines before and he has a collection with 8 Data Easts and 2 Bally Williams machines. The former guy who fixed his machines passed away a while back, so we kinda took over that job.

#24 4 years ago

I know their build quality wasn't the best, that's one of the reasons most of their machines are pretty cheap.
But I don't mind and I just don't want to overpay by a lot
I'm not thinking about reselling it immediately, but I do want to be sure I can get 95% of my money back after a few months/years.

#25 4 years ago
Quoted from RobDutch:

Just asked the seller again if he wants the $2000 for the broken machine, or for the fixed machine

Dang he really wants $2200 for it in this condition, think I'll pass unless it happens to be a cheap fix.

#33 4 years ago

Thank you all for your replies!

I have played the game and thought it was pretty fun, but not a keeper. My collection is very slow moving (uhhm.. well not moving at all) so a breath of fresh air once in a while is okay. If I don't happen to like it, I'll try to trade or sell it. (if I actually buy it)

#35 4 years ago
Quoted from Jappie:

I would not buy a Batman for that kind of money. You can get a much better pin for 2.000 euro.
Also: US prices are different from Dutch prices. Keep that in mind.

I know, but as long as I can sell it for the same amount (or more) I'm okay with it.
Can always trade/sell it.

#36 4 years ago
Quoted from RobDutch:

Can upload photo's from the power supply board tomorrow!

Blue cable was attached because of a burnt connector, but I will repair it to the way it should be.
Also fuse F7 (not on photo) is not used because it has an LED display.

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#39 4 years ago

Guy wants it fixed no matter if I buy it or not. Costs are for him. Picking it up tonight so I can fix it at home (and 95% sure now I won't buy it)

#41 4 years ago
Quoted from OldSchoolBlood:

Smart move. Having this sitting between your Shadow and TZ, ...... it would not get played.

Was thinking that too, but on the other hand it would be cool to have a super simple game (skill shot + 1 shot = multiball) in the mix

#44 4 years ago
Quoted from Rensh:

Think the usd 2200 price for a broken Batman of this model with playfield wear is to high in our area. This model is not Popular at all.
Fix it, get paid for your hours and leave it at the seller is my advice.

Quoted from Jappie:

So many other, cooler, cheaper games fit that bill though.

Thanks for the advise both of you!
After inspecting it at home I found out that the center ramp is broken, the joker ramp is broken, the Batman target bank doesn't register all shots and that is has a lot more pf damage than I thought.

Not gonna buy it. Will look today at the Dutch Pinball Open for ideas for my next pin

#48 4 years ago

Well it's a bit more expensive, but I'm going to look at a Judge Dredd tonight. The Batman will be repaired and will go back to its owner.

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