What's a shopped Comet with and excellent playfield and LED's going for?
How excellent is the playfield? Most of them seem to have a ton of planking or crazing in the areas not covered with mylar. How about the ramps? I personally wouldn't care about leds. Light bulb choices are very personal and terribly simple to do - not relevant to price imho.To me it's the playield, unobtanium parts and the backglass that matter most. Pictures are better than words for this sort of thing.
I'd say 1,000 is a good starting point. More or less depending on PF. The BG's are notorious for fade on this title. You really need to provide pictures if you are going to ask these questions in the marketplace forum.
Quoted from pinheadpierre:I personally wouldn't care about leds. Light bulb choices are very personal and terribly simple to do - not relevant to price imho.
Generally agree but keep in mind to achieve controlled lamp LEDs on these classic Sterns/Ballys without a huge amount of flickering requires additional HW, so you're looking at at least $60-100 of value there if the game already has the necessary HW installed (assuming it even does). You either need an AllTek-style replacement lamp board, available aftermarket LED adapters, or the lamp sockets need a resistor added to them.
Quoted from Fytr:Generally agree but keep in mind to achieve controlled lamp LEDs on these classic Sterns/Ballys without a huge amount of flickering requires additional HW, so you're looking at at least $60-100 of value there if the game already has the necessary HW installed (assuming it even does). You either need an AllTek-style replacement lamp board, available aftermarket LED adapters, or the lamp sockets need a resistor added to them.
yeah, but those issues are not relevant for a Williams system 9 machine.
The problem with pinball & the pinball community the last few years has been LED's. Somehow most people are under the illusion that LED's add value to a machine - they are just replaceable light bulbs! The value of a machines is about condition - condition - condition. Just like when buying a house - it is all about location and everything else is secondary.
LED's may add to the curb appeal of a pinball machine just like nice siding & landscaping will do with a house and maybe curb appeal will make something easier to sell for a little more money but again it is all about condition when it comes to selling a machine.
I vote for the $1000 to $1200 range depending on condition
Comet is a very fun classic game...I'm never selling mine. Getting the million point shot is one of the best shots in pinball. The machine goes crazy when you get it (as best as it can for a System 9 game). Just be sure to adjust the settings to hard, otherwise you will quickly get bored. On the hard settings it is more challenging (nothing is lit to start). Love the call outs... "million...million...million". A Python/Oursler classic. Get it!
Price totally depends on condition, if the playfield is blown out, like most are, then I wouldn't pay more than $900. If it has a very nice playfield and the ramps aren't cracked, then $1400.
Quoted from too-many-pins:The problem with pinball & the pinball community the last few years has been LED's. Somehow most people are under the illusion that LED's add value to a machine - they are just replaceable light bulbs! The value of a machines is about condition - condition - condition. Just like when buying a house - it is all about location and everything else is secondary.
LED's may add to the curb appeal of a pinball machine just like nice siding & landscaping will do with a house and maybe curb appeal will make something easier to sell for a little more money but again it is all about condition when it comes to selling a machine.
I vote for the $1000 to $1200 range depending on condition
I agree 100%. If people would spend more time actually shopping out games than installing LED's, the games would all be better off. To me a shopped game is so much more of a selling point than having LED's.
Quoted from snyper2099:yeah, but those issues are not relevant for a Williams system 9 machine.
Good point!
Quoted from too-many-pins:LED's may add to the curb appeal
...but it is more than that. I just bought a Comet for $1200. Perfect backglass, everything working, shopped and rubbers, offboard battery pack and zero corrosion, some quarter size ball wear in a couple areas, new legs and levelers. LEDs in all the GI. Yes, it has the curb appeal and the LEDs make it attractive...but the LEDs would also have cost me $100 or so plus and evening of work. The LEDs relieve some of the pressure of high current draw on the GI. Game runs cooler, saves the backglass paint, and I won't have to be changing bulbs as often.
Quoted from too-many-pins:Somehow most people are under the illusion that LED's add value to a machine
Now you can't just take a turd machine and throw bright LEDs and jack the price up way more than the LEDs themselves cost....now THAT is the illusion that you are speaking of. The price of the game has to encompass EVERYTHING in the game, and if tastefully chosen LEDs are a part of that, then the functional benefits (low current/low heat/longevity) are the "added value"
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