About the same.

No.

MB is more. Always has been. AFM has closed the gap though. You will see at least twice as many AFMs for sale in a month than you will MBs. I go through pins pretty fast and regularly. I've had my MB for 13 months now, far longer than any pin I've owned.

MB is at least $1k higher than AFM in the same condition in my opinion. And probably more than that.

1k ain't $hit in my book.

Nice!

By the way, and this doesn't mean that much, but I've received quite a few PMs here at Pinside over the last 6 months or so requesting that I let them know if/when I ever decide to sell my MB. That doesn't happen with the other pins that I've owned (including AFM).

Boston pinball shows 10 afm sold this year at an average of 7845 and 6 mb with an ave of $8473. I'm doing this math in my head but that's about 8 percent more???

and I just sold my mb for less than an afm, dang!

they are both are great games but my MB will be around long after AFM is gone.....

I may end up selling both my AFM and MB. But not today. MB is definitely worth more - don't come up that often.

There is indeed a small glut of AFMs currently FS vs. virtually no MBs by comparison.

Noteworthy, since the production numbers are essentially identical at approximately 3400 games.

Supply and demand would obviously apply here (as always).

I think Rob's analysis would therefore be accurate.

Another point...seems like natural AFM's are usually much more beaten up than MB (which might also explain the price difference). AFM's a classic, but I prefer MB and think it deserves to be priced higher.

That's fairly consistent with what I said (almost twice as many AFMs sold as MBs) although it doesn't show a $1k price gap (it shows MB selling for $628.00 more).

Then again, we obviously don't know the difference in condition between the AFMs and MBs that are in that sales data. For all we know all 10 of those AFMs could have been HUO!

definetly see more afms for sale than mb's. wont sell either one of mine, waited long enough to get really nice ones. will have to agree with about a 1k difference

Seems like about 5 to 1 lately
There has been a lot of AFM for sale lately
I wish a slew of MM pins would hit the market

Agree that MB sells for just a touch more then MB but still feel AFM is the superior game. I'm enjoying my MB but am in the process of working out another deal to get AFM back in my collection. IMO the best game out there not including ACDC....

Do you think this has anything to do with AFM's recent spike in value? MB has been a higher priced pin for so long that all of those owners who were tempted to cash out have done so long ago and now those games are in the hands of owners who are willing to hang onto it despite it's high value. I suspect the same thing is happening with AFM as those who used to like it at $3500-4000 are not valuing it enough to hold onto it now that it's worth $7-10K (depending on condition). Just a THOUGHT. I am not trying to say you are wrong, you do see them less frequently and i've offered a reason (which may be incorrect).

This says nothing about value but it is interesting because it seems like AFM is preferred 2 over MB. I would be curious how the MM votes would be distributed if it wasn't in the mix.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-big-three-mm-af-mb-vote

I think your synopsis is very valid Dave.

Higher? Seems to to demand a decent amount of coin.

I too think this a pretty decent theory on the glut of AFMs FS.

YES!

And in fact this analysis is consistent with what I said in terms of MB always being worth quite a bit more than AFM *until recently* when AFM started closing the gap.

Once a couple of average/nice (unrestored) AFMs broke the $8k sales barrier, you had a deluge of AFMs go up for sale. I think that your assumptions definitely have validity to them.

I think you are misinterpreting my comment...what I meant to say is "I prefer MB and think it deserves to be priced higher than AFM". I excluded the "than AFM" because I thought it was clear based on my previous comment. All speculation anyway

I was reading it wrong.

AFM over MB for me. As far as value definitely a little higher on MB ($500-$1000). There's been a flood of AFM's over the past 8-12months. Everything goes in cycles. A year ago no AFM's for sale now tons. MB will be the same way sooner or later...