Quoted from dtrimberger:

Thanks everyone for the help. Very informative. I'm a lonnnggg ways away from playing this machine (stars). It sat in a Missouri basement for some time where the humidity appears to have rusted a lot of the metal components so I'm stripping those out and tumbling them. Then I'll have to work on the playfield where the inlanes/outlanes have some paint chipping. Basically I have time to wait but it sounds like all of us need to hop on any lockbars that are out there.

Quoted from dtrimberger:

No found it in eastern Washington. But the guy brought it back from MO, was his father in laws.
He gives this story that it was picked up by his father in law with bill clinton from the jersey shore.
TBF there is a tag in it that says “jersey shore” so if anyone played a stern stars at the shore back in the day I may have it!

Quoted from MrBally:

Forgot to post this here, circa 1983. I'm facing West on Diversey. The Stern (old Chicago Coin) plant is a block behind me on the left. Note the Stewart-Warner plant tower is in the background on the right. That massive plant was demolished in 1993-94. There is a time-lapse video of it on youtube.[quoted image]

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Quoted from Methos:

I've been working on my Stars which had the displays out. Long story short, I'm changing the rectifier board to a new Nvram.Weebly one.
My question is I was using this chart to hook it up.
https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Stern-ta100-16b-6.png
However, I noticed that this says it is for a 16B-6 transformer, and Stars has a 16B-3. Are the wire colors to the connections on the board correct? When I took off the old board, I labeled the wires but after I hooked up the board, I got really weird voltage readings and the board was hot as hell. So I removed the wires and started over.
Any help is appreciated. Transformer knowledge is something I lack in....

Quoted from Hyperion:

I have all the red posts, original plastics (cracked) and new lockbar reciever installed.

Quoted from Hyperion:

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First off I'm not attacking this seller ... looking for perspective. Contacted this seller to ask what price he sold for? He said the full 2k. Is this feasible? The Nine ball I have is in better condition from what I can see in the pics. Just had the boards gone thru by Eugene Marsh, playfield protector, new drop targets installed, backglass triple thick sealed, new set of plastics and game thourghly cleaned and scrubbed.
what value?

Quoted from JLay:

Anyone know which stern sticker would be more appropriate for Stars?
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Quoted from Tsskinne:

I dunno I always liked the stern banks personally the way they drop so fast and smooth. But I’ll ask around.

Quoted from Pinash:

How much would you guys pay for a non playing, but complete project condition Trident? Just wondering how much I overpaid
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Quoted from djblouw:

Another Nine ball has surfaced. Overall, it’s in marginal shape. Lots of wiring hacks though.
This will get added to the restore queue that I have. So a couple years from now.
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Quoted from cottonm4:

This statement confuses me. I know some of the drop targets are too short but people have been shimming the lift bar a little bit higher.
I have repros in my Seawitch and my Nine Ball and do not have any performance issues.
What's up?

Quoted from cottonm4:

Questions:
Have you played your Stars with the original drop targets? Can you compare between the originals and the repros for brick action? If so, what looks different when the OG and repro targets are laid side by side and measured?

Quoted from cottonm4:

You can grind or sand off the lip at the top and make them look like the tombstone targets. I did one as test. Worked great. I can't move the stars, though.
Stern was not exactly using precision when it assembled its pins. Meaning 2 of the same pins sitting side by side will play differently.
What you don't know is how your Stars behaved with OG targets. It could have been Brick City for the first owner. If the owner was an OP, it would not have mattered to him.
IMO, what you need to check for is to see if the target slams into the rubber ring on the posts sitting behind. My theory is if the drop assembly is not positioned correctly or if the rubber ring is too close to the targets, then the targets will hit that post rubber and bounce back on you. I could be wrong, but I had a set of drops targets bricking on my new build. I set the posts back one hole diameter and the extra clearance made all of the difference and my brick problem stopped. That is my experience.
Go to this link regarding a Seawitch build. Start at post # 586 and read all the way. You might need to reposition your posts and rubber ring or reposition your drop target assembly. Or maybe the drop springs are not positioned correctly.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/seawitch-from-scratch-allentown-edition/page/12
What I am saying is that I think your brick problem is not associated with repro targets.

Quoted from swinks:

The repros are Bally targets with hoods. Stern and Bally targets are pretty much the same below deck except for the sensor tabs and spring holes and one is taller above deck than the other. I will dig up a comparison image from my design computer soon.

Quoted from knazzo:

If somebody needs a early stern widebody lockbar in very good condition, i have two for sale. Also some early Stern Drop Target Assemblys and some other parts.

Quoted from knazzo:

Only 2 used ones.

Quoted from bluespin:

Cpr has the plastic sets in stock.

Quoted from 27dnast:

Need a little tech help on Big Game.
Yesterday, was playing a game and the right flippers went unresponsive, then came back online, and then permanetly stopped working.
So far, I've inspected for broken wires around the flippers (can't find any), confirmed the leaf switch at the flipper button is making contact and is clean. Checked fuses on the rectifier board... and gave boards in the back of the game a visual inspection.
Is there a bank of fuses I'm missing?
Thoughts?
I own two classic sterns, but really haven't needed to dig too deep, tech-wise. So, a little green here

Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Haha. I'm afraid to play a Beatles because a) I hate the Beatles and b) I don't want to become jaded on my Witch. IDK, Beatles seems 'too' smooth. Now, there's something to be said about flinging the ball around the loop a bunch of times and watching it get faster and faster, but there are games that couldn't even get that right (looking at you, Black Knight 2000). You know it's bad when you get bored with a loop that gets faster and faster. I'd like to see a reverse-retro-retheme on a Beatles, back to a Seawitch. I wish they had made 20000 Beatles so that could be a possibility. It'll never happen because of how few they made.

I've not played a Trident, but I think it looks like it sucks. JMO. lol
How dare you speak ill of Seawitch, though! HOW DARE YOU!
I'm pretty antsy to play the Ali I bought. I've heard such mixed things on it -- it sucks, it's awesome, it's whatever.... Who knows. Mine is sitting in a warehouse in South Carolina just waiting for me to do something about getting it here. Doh!

Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

She's in Summerville :p
I don't want it to sound like I don't like stars. I do. It's a good game, and even better when you consider its age. But it's definitely not on my top 3 Sterns. I do think I need to probably just pull the new code out and go back to chimes most likely.
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Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Sure did. I paid a bit more than I really wanted but it was one of my white whales, of sorts, and I decided I needed to jump on it.
Turned out he and my buddy both live in Summerville, so it was an easy transaction. It just hasn't come west yet. Lol

Quoted from newovad:

Didn’t we just get done arguing about Seawitch over Stars? Potato pohtahtoh.

Quoted from tatman9999:

Added a restored build quicksilver today to my stern line up. Cheetah is next
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Quoted from gdonovan:

Pile of decals going out first thing in the morning guys, had a few stragglers.
Meteor sold out! I picked up some more vinyl to do a few Dragonfist and now I have to run out to get fresh blades.
Gary

Quoted from Ollulanus:

So, I came back from expo with a Dracula, Trident, and Meteor. Was originally gonna kill Drac to make stargazer, but the meteor has damn near everything I need and a really rough playfield. Die it shall.
This latest back and forth gave me an idea though. When I get started on the SG in a couple months, I'm going to rig it up with both transformers on a toggle. Shouldn't be too hard to do, though I'll might want to put some thought into safety design to make it less likely I fry myself (I do some dumb shit around here when I've been drinking).
FOR SCIENCE.

Quoted from bluespin:

Sorry for causing all the drama. I know all of the pros and cons of -3 vs. -6 transformers. I was just looking for help in valuation. This one is far away and over priced so I’ll pass. Plus by looking around I found that he has a reputation for overpricing projects, threatening to part them out and never lowering prices. I’ll keep an eye out and something will eventually pop up locally.

Quoted from billsfanmd:

Feeling a little frustrated..I'm putting new solder on tips of wires. Putting first tip through back of hole E2 and soldering It still feels like the solder does not want to fill the ring and my first wire still popped off. I expected it to be permanent with this solder I have no idea what I could doing wrong Soldering getting hot, melts but still not a bond with metal ring. I bought one of the first solder that popped up that said for electronics. Is there a video that I can see if I'm doing something wrong?
Thx for any help.

Quoted from Coyote:

I admit - I laughed.

Quoted from cottonm4:

For anyone shopping for a transformer, this Bally 122-125 remake from Homepin was an option.
Now, it is NLA.
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Quoted from Ollulanus:

So, I thought I'd see what I could get outta AI for some custom Seawitch cards. Genuinely pretty awesome if you ask me. Bing image creator.
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Quoted from BorgDog:

I have a williams black from Marco, weighs 22g, and a white williams from Marco, weighs 19g
The Bally (generic enhanced) from pinball resource I have weighs 33g, and costs $17 https://www.pbresource.com/spinner.html
to add to the data my original textured gottlieb from games like alien star weighs 27g
and the plastic crappy gottlieb spinners I have weigh 12g
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Quoted from Ollulanus:

Inserts GTG. The laser etch is a cool effect; on the bottom you can't really see it with the light off. Light comes on and bam, it pops. Still deciding on the bolts for the big blues. Don't want to get carried away, but think I may do the runic wheel on the shoot again insert, it's a cool effect.
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Quoted from NeilMcRae:

ok so I have a stars with no chime unit.
Its got this weird french CPU board in it that does electronic sound (well it plays samples).
I really want to move to a weebly board as I run scorbit but I'm trying to figure out how I keep sound? Any one got any ideas?
Neil.

Quoted from mikeflan:

Targets are new, spring is new: coil stop is loose at the head where it is "riveted" into the stop, but the large bore part (A-378) is unavailable from most vendors - waiting on Action Pinball to return from vacation to see if he has one. It is an aluminum sleeve and I'll get some nylon replacements but I don't have the larger bore size on hand. Will let everyone know when those parts are replaced and if any difference is noted. Thanks.

Quoted from piccolohl:

Encountering these in a seawitch, are you supposed to use a tiny nut to tighten the post? All the carriage bolty ones are just loose on this machine
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