Ali
Stern Electronics, 1980
Big Game
Stern Electronics, 1980
Catacomb
Stern Electronics, 1981
Cheetah
Stern Electronics, 1980
Cosmic Princess
Stern Electronics, 1979
Dracula
Stern Electronics, 1979
Dragonfist
Stern Electronics, 1981
Flight 2000
Stern Electronics, 1980Quoted from Coyote:Stern 7-digit driver boards were longer than Bally 7-digit boards, and Stern 6-digit boards.
So, anything that is 7 digits, needed to be screwed in from the backside.
One of the reasons why I used Bally 7-digits in my Meteor instead of Stern 7-digits.
I wish all displays were screwed in from the backside. I like being able to shim them to keep them from rubbing on the glass.
I have had some assistance on this issue in the past and I still can't figure it out.
I can not get the GI to flash during attract or when GALAXY is spelled. It worked before I did a playfield swap.
I re-pinned Q17 plug on the Driver Board and Tried and Alltek Driver board.
The Relay was ordered from K's 48V.
Is this wired up correctly? Thought I copied how it was before.
Note: GI works fine, it just wont trigger to flash. MPU and Lamp board are Alltek.
Hopefully someone can help.
IMG_1332 (resized).JPGIMG_1333 (resized).JPGQuoted from SR230CC:I have had some assistance on this issue in the past and I still can't figure it out.
I can not get the GI to flash during attract or when GALAXY is spelled. It worked before I did a playfield swap.
I re-pinned Q17 plug on the Driver Board and Tried and Alltek Driver board.
The Relay was ordered from K's 48V.
Is this wired up correctly? Thought I copied how it was before.
Note: GI works fine, it just wont trigger to flash. MPU and Lamp board are Alltek.
Hopefully someone can help.[quoted image][quoted image]
Does it work if you ground the pin on the driver board? Is the drive wire in the correct position on the header of the SDB?
Jim
Quoted from SR230CC:I have had some assistance on this issue in the past and I still can't figure it out.
I can not get the GI to flash during attract or when GALAXY is spelled. It worked before I did a playfield swap.
I re-pinned Q17 plug on the Driver Board and Tried and Alltek Driver board.
The Relay was ordered from K's 48V.
Is this wired up correctly? Thought I copied how it was before.
Note: GI works fine, it just wont trigger to flash. MPU and Lamp board are Alltek.
Hopefully someone can help.[quoted image][quoted image]
Also, can you hear the GI relay click in solenoid test, and how many green wires are going to the GI relay.
Quoted from Gott_Lieb:Also, can you hear the GI relay click in solenoid test, and how many green wires are going to the GI relay.
The relay does not click on solenoid test.
1 Green wire to the relay and those other two are blue....faded I think.
ill double check header.
project Nine Ball Value? great backglass, solid cab, playfield has some wear down in the lower middle, every present except lockdown bar. It will be probably a year before I get to it so testing the waters. If it has real value i will sell, if not then I will keep it.
Quoted from Gott_Lieb:Also, can you hear the GI relay click in solenoid test, and how many green wires are going to the GI relay.
I figured it out. I checked each connector and found one wire was on the wrong side of the connector in the same spot as the key on driver board!?!
My fault when redoing the connectors.
Quoted from SR230CC:I figured it out. I checked each connector and found one wire was on the wrong side of the connector in the same spot as the key on driver board!?!
My fault when redoing the connectors.
And that is why I asked about the connector. 
Quoted from Gott_Lieb:And that is why I asked about the connector.
It was a different connector. It was P4 for the input into the SDB.
Quoted from Tyamry:I'm looking for some opinions on what you guys think this Stars is worth. TIA
Nice shape. Assume working all the way I’d say $1400 +/-
Quoted from woody76:project Nine Ball Value?
Really depends on how bad the wood is in the middle. But starting @ 2k and going up would be easy these days...er.. before Corvis anyway.
Quoted from Tyamry:I'm looking for some opinions on what you guys think this Stars is worth.
Wrong spinners & drops to start. Art 'touch up's' in the middle? Csnt see on phone nut thatvisnt shocking. 1000-1200?
Quoted from Tyamry:I'm looking for some opinions on what you guys think this Stars is worth. TIA[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
The new boards are a plus i guess. Touch ups everywhere Backglass is okay. Probably around 1000.
Quoted from Mitch:What do you see wrong with this playfeild (not the wear) and why would someone do this?[quoted image]
Spinners?
Quoted from Mitch:What do you see wrong with this playfeild (not the wear) and why would someone do this?[quoted image]
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Bingo!
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Bingo! Bingo!
I see Bally Eight Ball Spinners and D/T mini post...
Looks like somebody tried to save the D/T assembly from
direct hits from the bottom drop targets...
The bottom drop target probably got broken a lot.
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My playfield has the same mini post in the same location
Quoted from Mitch:How do you sweep your drops then?
It's more difficult but doable. The playfield is really worn so I've been debating sending it out to be restored and not playing it for a year, or buy a Mirco keep playing mine and installing the Mirco after the clear hardens (maybe three months?).
Quoted from bluespin:It's more difficult but doable. The playfield is really worn so I've been debating sending it out to be restored and not playing it for a year, or buy a Mirco keep playing mine and installing the Mirco after the clear hardens (maybe three months?).
Will you leave the post out after you restore it?
Quoted from Mitch:Will you leave the post out after you restore it?
Yes I will remove the post. In looking at the right spinner area, I have a mini post there as well. I've seen pictures with a mini post and one with a red post, both blocking the bottom of the left of the spinner. Was this another mod, or were mini posts installed at the factory?
Quoted from bluespin:Yes I will remove the post. In looking at the right spinner area, I have a mini post there as well. I've seen pictures with a mini post and one with a red post, both blocking the bottom of the left of the spinner. Was this another mod, or were mini posts installed at the factory?
Sorry. I meant to say the left side of the right spinner.
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:No post on mine.[quoted image]
The blue print shows 2 standard red posts at the left spinner.
There is no post at the drop targets.
There is one mini-post at the right spinner. However, the drawing shows the post on the outboard side of the spinner. I'm calling an engineering drawing error on this. The mini-post is to protect the spinner actuating wire. Your mini-post at the right spinner is correct when I match it to my Seawatch and Dragonfist.
Yours is the correct setup.
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Quoted from bluespin:It's more difficult but doable. The playfield is really worn so I've been debating sending it out to be restored and not playing it for a year, or buy a Mirco keep playing mine and installing the Mirco after the clear hardens (maybe three months?).
It would have cost me around $600.00-$700.00 to have my beater QS play field restored. I talked to my restore guy; He said buy Mirco as it will be better than anything he could do. And this guy is good.
For $100.00-$200.00 extra, I got a brand new Mirco. It was no contest.
I think I bought mine around 6 months ago. I just checked. The clear is as hard as a rock. It done cooking.
Quoted from Chalkey:When you guys are doing swaps / restorations how do you clean the rough under apron metals too big for the tumbler? Just rubbing alcohol the gunk off or anything to further clean / shine /smooth?
Bench grinder/polisher then alcohol to clean.
Quoted from Chalkey:When you guys are doing swaps / restorations how do you clean the rough under apron metals too big for the tumbler? Just rubbing alcohol the gunk off or anything to further clean / shine /smooth?
Dremel with abrasive buffs. I typically use the finest grit unless there is heavy rust/corrosion/oxidation. On straight pieces you can use sandpaper 1000-3000 grit.
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Good advice. I never get a good sense of what can be done to keep the sanded/polished metal from corroding again. Is wax enough?
Quoted from A_Bord:Good advice. I never get a good sense of what can be done to keep the sanded/polished metal from corroding again. Is wax enough?
A light coat of rattle can clear will help.
Quoted from A_Bord:Good advice. I never get a good sense of what can be done to keep the sanded/polished metal from corroding again. Is wax enough?
Quoted from cottonm4:A light coat of rattle can clear will help.
It's needed for sure
Quoted from A_Bord:Good advice. I never get a good sense of what can be done to keep the sanded/polished metal from corroding again. Is wax enough?
Mother's Mag Polish preserves the metal nicely
Quoted from Chalkey:When you guys are doing swaps / restorations how do you clean the rough under apron metals too big for the tumbler? Just rubbing alcohol the gunk off or anything to further clean / shine /smooth?
You clearly don’t have a big enough tumbler 
But Brasso with a microfiber cloth will do the trick too. I use a lot of it on every restore/rehab.
I recently had a Nugent owner ask if I would create some apron cards for him, so I wanted to offer them to other owners.
I print the cards on a photo quality printer using 6 color OEM inks and thick OEM ultra gloss photo paper. I then coat with a clear gloss vinyl and color the white edges for a finished look when installed.
The cards are $10 per set including postage. If interested in purchasing, please PM me to arrange payment. The cards are made to order, and I'm usually able to send no more than one or two days from day of payment.
IMG_3876 (resized).JPGQuoted from rollitover:Those look terrific.
Would love to see what you could do
with a set for Big Game.
Me ,too.
Hey all. Does anyone have any potential doner cabinets available for purchase? Looking to build up a StarGazer.
Quoted from Mr_Positive:Hey all. Does anyone have any potential doner cabinets available for purchase? Looking to build up a StarGazer.
Just to help you out. A Bally cabinet of the era will also work for you. And if Williams play fields are the same size, you could probably use Williams cabinet as well. They are just made out of wood.
Quoted from Mr_Positive:Hey all. Does anyone have any potential doner cabinets available for purchase? Looking to build up a StarGazer.
I might be able to help you
Quoted from cottonm4:Just to help you out. A Bally cabinet of the era will also work for you. And if Williams play fields are the same size, you could probably use Williams cabinet as well. They are just made out of wood.
I hear you, but having some trouble finding Bally cabs too. No flee markets is making things a little tough right now.
Quoted from cottonm4:Just to help you out. A Bally cabinet of the era will also work for you. And if Williams play fields are the same size, you could probably use Williams cabinet as well. They are just made out of wood.
A Bally cabinet is not the same. The hole spacing to secure the head between a Bally and a classic Stern is different.
Quoted from play_pinball:Anyone know a source for the long screws and cupped washers that secure the apron to the playfield?
Any of the big 3 hardware store should have them. The screws are 10-32 fine thread and the cupped washers are just #10's. Ace is your best bet but I've found them at lowes also
Quoted from Gott_Lieb:A Bally cabinet is not the same. The hole spacing to secure the head between a Bally and a classic Stern is different.
It is wood. That would be an easy problem to overcome. But nice to know.
But you do make me question this: Are the back glass size for Bally and Stern the same?
Quoted from play_pinball:Anyone know a source for the long screws and cupped washers that secure the apron to the playfield?
I have a local hardware store that carries a lot of, well, hardware. I think saw some of those in one of the bins. If you don't have any luck send me a PM and I can look for you.
Quoted from cottonm4:It is wood. That would be an easy problem to overcome. But nice to know.
But you do make me question this: Are the back glass size for Bally and Stern the same?
They are not. I recently discovered Bally backglasses are slightly taller. At least my old frontier backglass wouldn’t fit into my Stern Pinball head, but my Stars backglass did
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