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Stern Electronics Club (1977-1984).


By Mitch

1 year ago



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#1451 1 year ago

Thought you guys might like to see my latest pick up.

1979 Stern Cosmic Princess. Assembled in Australia by Leisure Allied Industries. (LAI)

To work around Australia (and New Zealand’s) exorbitant import taxes in the 1970s, Stern games were shipped as parts and assembled in Aussie. NZ used to do the same with Space Invaders games - we made the cabinets and tubes in NZ, and bought in the boards and controls.

There were 336 Cosmic Princess’ shipped to Perth. This was the only “Aussie only” model made. It uses the same roms as Magic. I know of 3 here in NZ - this is the nicest one of the three. Could well be others around ...

Anyway - got a lead on this one last week, and met up with the guy today. He had bought it from his neighbour a while back when the neighbour had moved out. It didn’t work when he bought it - and it still doesn’t.

Boards all look pretty tidy - Rectifier board shows signs of repair.

Game is really good condition for its age. I’ll get it going, soup it up and add it to the classic Stern row.

Nice score!!

rd
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#1452 1 year ago

Now that is a sweet find!

#1453 1 year ago

Nice one RD!

#1455 1 year ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Thought you guys might like to see my latest pick up.
1979 Stern Cosmic Princess. Assembled in Australia by Leisure Allied Industries. (LAI)
To work around Australia (and New Zealand’s) exorbitant import taxes in the 1970s, Stern games were shipped as parts and assembled in Aussie. NZ used to do the same with Space Invaders games - we made the cabinets and tubes in NZ, and bought in the boards and controls.
There were 336 Cosmic Princess’ shipped to Perth. This was the only “Aussie only” model made. It uses the same roms as Magic. I know of 3 here in NZ - this is the nicest one of the three. Could well be others around ...
Anyway - got a lead on this one last week, and met up with the guy today. He had bought it from his neighbour a while back when the neighbour had moved out. It didn’t work when he bought it - and it still doesn’t.
Boards all look pretty tidy - Rectifier board shows signs of repair.
Game is really good condition for its age. I’ll get it going, soup it up and add it to the classic Stern row.
Nice score!!
rd
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...probably just a fuse.

#1456 1 year ago
Quoted from Fytr:

...probably just a fuse.

Could well be!

I’ve had to put it in the corner for now as I have a couple more pressing things to finish off (custom Led Zeppelin, full Evel Knievel restore, etc etc) so it’ll be a little while before I get her cranking.

rd

#1457 1 year ago

Dude. Nice pickup. I call dibs! Beautiful Cosmic Princess.

#1458 1 year ago

Hey ... I know it’s sacrilege to post a Bally game here .. but I gotta show someone. Just pretend it’s a Stern.

Check out the gloss on the cabinet I just got back from the painter. I used to do them myself but he makes a better job and it doesn’t cost much more ... I just have to do the stencils on top.

rd

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#1459 1 year ago
Quoted from Mitch:

Need help with my catacomb, been fixing it up but need some info.
What's the factory playfield flipper coils and what's the factory backbox flipper coil?
Also need some pics of the piece in the backbox that holds the ball on the flipper when you remove the backglass and a pic of the gate in the backbox as mine is missing.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from cottonm4:

For the piece of broken plastic that holds the ball you can go to the toy store and maybe find a kids toy with a plastic window in the box and make one. Or you can wait until we get all of your manuals together and I can include a strip of .020 poly that you can make one with.
I can also make you a one-way gate ( I made and sold about 30 of these gates) and I can also ship it along with your manuals.
EDIT: The flipper in your back box is not the correct flipper. What you have will work but it is not correct; I don’t know if you can even locate the correct flipper. I will post a pic of mine when I get home tomorrow.

I must correct what I said about your back box flipper. Yours is correct. Same as mine. I just don't have a rubber on mine and don't know if one is supposed to be there, or not. It is certainly not needed.

#1460 1 year ago

Anyone know why when my sound board is plugged in on my flight 2000 the machine boots, i hear start up pings, but then the MPU restarts? I just did a capacitor replacement and replaced large chip because mpu was locking up. I've connected the ribbon cables the wrong way a bunch of times, but didn't figure 5v would kill anything.

#1461 1 year ago

So recently I did a playfield swap on my Galaxy and everything worked great. Then I put new flipper assemblies in the machine and started having issues with phantom drop targets and pop bumpers.
I already replaced all the diodes and capacitors on everything under the play field.
Swapped in different Alltek boards.
Separated the flipper wires from the rest of the play field bundle of wires.
Checked all wiring for shorts...etc.
I am still having issues...Is it possible that the Coil Relays on the memory drop targets are bad?
When I do a coil test everything works correctly.
The advanced bonus roll overs will make the drop targets go down...they are causing the Drop Relays to fire. I think this is the problem, but I am not sure how to fix it.
Anyone have any suggestions or has anyone had similar issues?

#1462 1 year ago
Quoted from canoncitypb:Anyone know why when my sound board is plugged in on my flight 2000 the machine boots, i hear start up pings, but then the MPU restarts?

Solved!! Here is what I found on another thread.

"Make certain that pin 34 of the sound board is not connected to the MPU. Pin 34 on J1 of the sound board and pin 34 on J5 of the MPU board is the /IRQ signal. This signal is never used by the sound board. However, if it is connected to the MPU board from the sound board, it can sometimes cause the MPU to lock up or hang. Either bend pin 34 of J1 on the sound board away from the connector (if it is even connected), or snip the pin off completely."

Thanks G-P-E!!

#1463 1 year ago
Quoted from canoncitypb:

Solved!! Here is what I found on another thread.
"Make certain that pin 34 of the sound board is not connected to the MPU. Pin 34 on J1 of the sound board and pin 34 on J5 of the MPU board is the /IRQ signal. This signal is never used by the sound board. However, if it is connected to the MPU board from the sound board, it can sometimes cause the MPU to lock up or hang. Either bend pin 34 of J1 on the sound board away from the connector (if it is even connected), or snip the pin off completely."
Thanks G-P-E!!

Cool. Can you share the link, please?

#1464 1 year ago

Think I figured it out. If I boot the machine then start a game then unplug the coin door and play, the game works. Looks like I need to rewire the coin door and replace the connector and hopefully I’ll be good to go.

#1465 1 year ago

I just posted my cheetah for trade in market. Looking for a fathom.

#1466 1 year ago

So the last thing on this lightning is the cable that connects the speech board to the lamp driver is missing completely. It seems simple enough to make a new one, but I want to make sure that it will be wired up correctly. Is it as simple as pin 1 on the speech board to pin 1 on the lamp driver board connector? Thanks for any help!

#1467 1 year ago

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stern-mpu-to-sound-board-ribbon-cable

yuck. Worked for 3 minutes and now it isn't working again. no sound at all and mpu board resets or locks up after a couple of blinks. Disconnect the sound board and everything is good again. frustrated.

#1468 1 year ago
Quoted from Ronnie1114:

So the last thing on this lightning is the cable that connects the speech board to the lamp driver is missing completely. It seems simple enough to make a new one, but I want to make sure that it will be wired up correctly. Is it as simple as pin 1 on the speech board to pin 1 on the lamp driver board connector? Thanks for any help!

Yes, the wiring harness is 1 to 1 from the speech board to the lamp driver board.

Jim

#1469 1 year ago
Quoted from canoncitypb:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stern-mpu-to-sound-board-ribbon-cable
yuck. Worked for 3 minutes and now it isn't working again. no sound at all and mpu board resets or locks up after a couple of blinks. Disconnect the sound board and everything is good again. frustrated.

Are your sound ribbon cables new? Are the headers on the sound board and J5 of the MPU new? Flaky cables and / or crappy header pins can create all sorts of random issues. It's best to start fresh by replacing the headers and the ribbon cables, and going from there.

Jim

#1470 1 year ago
Quoted from Gott_Lieb:

Are your sound ribbon cables new? Are the headers on the sound board and J5 of the MPU new? Flaky cables and / or crappy header pins can create all sorts of random issues. It's best to start fresh by replacing the headers and the ribbon cables, and going from there.

I built new cables and resoldered the header pins. I didn't replace the pins. I guess I could try that. They looked okay. thanks for the suggestion. I'll check back when that is done.

#1471 1 year ago
Quoted from Gott_Lieb:

Yes, the wiring harness is 1 to 1 from the speech board to the lamp driver board.
Jim

Thank you! Made a cable and I now have my insert lights, but still no speech. I installed the jumper between pin 5 and the top of c14 but still no dice. Any suggestions?

#1472 1 year ago
Quoted from Ronnie1114:

I installed the jumper between pin 5 and the top of c14 but still no dice.

Why a jumper there? I can't find a post that talks about that jumper.

#1474 1 year ago

Selling a beautiful (mostly original) Seawitch in the marketplace.

Archived after 33 days
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Not sold: Decided to keep game
Machine - For Sale
Seawitch Archived
Partially shopped/refurbished “Selling my 1980 Stern SEAWITCH This machine is in excellent original condition. The cabinet shows beautifully with only minor nicks around the head and great colors. The playfiel...”
2019-04-23
Toronto, ON
3,500 (Firm)

#1475 1 year ago

I’ve been busy...

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#1476 1 year ago

Here are pics of lectronimo with a strange cabinet.

It's almost 3 inches shorter then any other lectronamo cab and has a much thinner neck to make up the difference. 

The playfeild is still standard size. 

To make up for the thinner neck the bolt pattern in the head is very different. 3 bolts instead of 4.

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#1477 1 year ago
Quoted from Mitch:

Here are pics of lectronimo with a strange cabinet.
It's almost 3 inches shorter then any other lectronamo cab and has a much thinner neck to make up the difference. 
The playfeild is still standard size. 
To make up for the thinner neck the bolt pattern in the head is very different. 3 bolts instead of 4.
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Stern probably re-purposed a cabinet from another game. If sales were less than expectations on a title, standard industry practice was to redo the artwork on the cabinet and use for a new title. The other option was to break up the cabinet and toss it in a dumpster. As an example the sales of Rapid Fire were realy bad so they reused the cabinets to make Centaur II and EBD LE.

#1478 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

Stern probably re-purposed a cabinet from another game. If sales were less than expectations on a title, standard industry practice was to redo the artwork on the cabinet and use for a new title. The other option was to break up the cabinet and toss it in a dumpster. As an example the sales of Rapid Fire were realy bad so they reused the cabinets to make Centaur II and EBD LE.

Ya that's what I figured too. Just strange how the previous game Stars all had standad cabs not the smaller ones.
If anyone has a stern em can you measure the cab for me?

#1479 1 year ago

Wow got the head mounted it sits really strange hangs off the back of the cab.

Also the front leg bolts are in the same spot as other sterns but the rear are 3/4 of a inch lower.

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#1480 1 year ago

Ledge was too close to stars so I cut it off.

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#1481 1 year ago

Full stern lineup all on legs, now comes the repairs!

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#1482 1 year ago
Quoted from Mitch:

Full stern lineup all on legs

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#1483 1 year ago
Quoted from Mitch:

Full stern lineup all on legs, now comes the repairs!
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Nice lineup.

#1484 1 year ago

Amazing line-up.

#1485 1 year ago
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#1486 1 year ago

That’s the third lectronamo I’ve brought back to life this year. First one with the shorter cab. Other two were the same.

#1487 1 year ago
Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

That’s the third lectronamo I’ve brought back to life this year. First one with the shorter cab. Other two were the same.

Weird

#1488 1 year ago
Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

That’s the third lectronamo I’ve brought back to life this year. First one with the shorter cab. Other two were the same.

Crazy so mines not the only one.

Want to sell me the ali

#1489 1 year ago
Quoted from Mitch:

Crazy so mines not the only one.
Want to sell me the ali

Nope. Only 8 more sterns left to go...

But between a couple friends on myself we’ve found 3 Ali’sin the past couple weeks. One will be for sale at Allentown likely

#1490 1 year ago
Quoted from Mitch:

Ledge was too close to stars so I cut it off.
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What’s the story with all of the play fields lining the wall?

#1491 1 year ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

What’s the story with all of the play fields lining the wall?

Just playfeilds I've picked up. All are worn and not really useable. The centaur is a test CPR run no inserts.

#1492 1 year ago
Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

Nope. Only 8 more sterns left to go...
But between a couple friends on myself we’ve found 3 Ali’sin the past couple weeks. One will be for sale at Allentown likely

Can you give me a heads up if one is going.

#1493 1 year ago

I am parting out my Flight 2000. It breaks my heart to do it, but I invested a ton of money in it and was still going to have to invest a lot more to get it up and running. I'm trying to get back some of the money I invested by selling some parts.

I have listed several parts on Ebay. I'd be happy to provide a 15% discount to anyone on pinside who wants to buy these off of Ebay. Let me know. I'm not selling them cheaply because I need to try to get back as much as I can.

ebay.com link - new 7 digit pinitech displays

ebay.com link - Transformer

ebay.com link - Apron

ebay.com link - Large Drop Target Unit

ebay.com link - Apollo Unit

ebay.com link - Sling shot Kicker Assemblies

ebay.com link - Apollo Kicker Assemblies

ebay.com link - Original Pop Caps

ebay.com link - Original Displays (don't know if they are working or not, for repair)

ebay.com link - Original Pop Bumper assemblies with plastic rings

Thanks for taking a look.

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#1494 1 year ago

Picked up a solid playable seawitch last night. I think I got a pretty decent deal on it. Hopefully I can turn it into a really nice game

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#1495 1 year ago

Doesn’t matter if deal was decent or not. Looks like a nice game!

#1496 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Doesn’t matter if deal was decent or not. Looks like a nice game!

Yes. Very nice. Needs minimal work to really make shine.

#1497 1 year ago

Here's a use for a classic Stern you don't see every day, supporting the collapsed roof of a shed.

Just a little bit of work to get this up and running, but at least its in better condition than the Flash and Firepower next to it!

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#1498 1 year ago
Quoted from Poida:

Just a little bit of work to get this up and running

Wow, good luck with that. Take lost of pictures, the transformation process will be cool to see.

#1499 1 year ago

My eyes, my eyes!!
Man that hurts to see that.

#1500 1 year ago
Quoted from Poida:

Here's a use for a classic Stern you don't see every day, supporting the collapsed roof of a shed.
Just a little bit of work to get this up and running, but at least its in better condition than the Flash and Firepower next to it![quoted image][quoted image]

In the Aussie cab color combination, which makes perfect sense, because that's where you are located!

Jim

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