Quoted from cottonm4:

Very rare. Only 438 produced. I have never seen one nor played one, but the talk is that is not that great of player. One Stern collector on Pinside had one, did some minor restoration work and sold it. Comparing it to the Sterns he kept, I figure he was not enamored with the play action.
It does not get glowing reviews.
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/viper/ratings

Quoted from statictrance:

Anyone out there happen to have a 3d print file for a classic Stern start button? Working on bringing a Lectronamo that had some type of resto started on it by someone who has no business doing work on pins. I didn't see them at PBL or PBR, and just bought a printer I'm itching to try out on pin parts.

Quoted from bigguybbr:

I'm running into an issue with the relay controlled drop targets don't drop on My Trident.
I was having a problem where the the relays were doing nothing. I assumed it was the common ground they use (yellow wire), but those looked OK. When I did a continuity check against the ground pin in the molex connector going back to the board, I found that I had one wire was connected to the wrong pin on the SDB.
Once I corrected that, I can now hear a faint buzz in the coil tests coming from the relays, but they still don't drop. Any ideas what to check next?
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Quoted from n1teowl:

Yes, I've played this briefly once before at a show and I'll definitely need more time on it before I can make a judgement. I couldn't turn it down due to the combination of art, rarity, and price. I'll post back here once I've had a chance to get some time on it and let you know what I think.

Quoted from n1teowl:

Yes, I've played this briefly once before at a show and I'll definitely need more time on it before I can make a judgement. I couldn't turn it down due to the combination of art, rarity, and price. I'll post back here once I've had a chance to get some time on it and let you know what I think.

Quoted from cottonm4:

What happens when you manually drop each drop target? Does each target make any game sounds? If not, then perhaps your switch contacts are dirty or not adjusted correctly.
Trident, I think is of the memory drop type, but not sure if the coils inside the drop assembly would cause you problems.
Make sure all of your switches are working. They can get whacky sometimes

Quoted from bigguybbr:

The switches are all working. I've cleaned and tested those. The bank even resets if you knock it all down. I figured I would upload a quick video to help show what's happening. It gets power, but it's very weak.

Quoted from bigguybbr:

I figured it out. Does anyone here with eagle eyes see what dumb mistake I made?
(solution here https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/trident-2020-restoration-/page/3#post-6423422)[quoted image]

Quoted from vec-tor:

The two rods are on backwards...The trip levers are magnetized to the rod bracket.

Quoted from bigguybbr:

I figured it out. Does anyone here with eagle eyes see what dumb mistake I made?
(solution here https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/trident-2020-restoration-/page/3#post-6423422)[quoted image]

Quoted from n1teowl:

Today's pick up! Looking forward to spending some time getting her back in shape and playing great.
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Quoted from RatShack:

Magic - Could someone tell me where I can find the 3 pin connector from the playfield harness to the backbox harness on the schematics?
I've been staring at the manual for 15 minutes and I can't figure out where it is on the drawing.

Quoted from slochar:

AFAIK they never showed those cross connects.

Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

Seawitch is done. I put the playfield back in and fired her up. The only issue I had was reversed polarity on the power. I assumed the last guy that worked on it knew how to install a power cord. Obviously he didn't. I swapped the wires and everything checked out. I also reinstalled the 1 ohm resistors on the upper flippers. Actually doing that changed how the game plays. It isn't bad, just different. With less power going to the upper flippers you have more control hitting stuff in the upper playfield. At full power it felt more uncontrolled and super fast. The way I have it now is the way it was when it rolled off the faxtoy line.
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Quoted from RatShack:

Thanks for the info! Was driving me nuts. I'll have to trace the wires and see where they go, guessing that's the connection to the cabinet for the flipper switches.

Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

Seawitch is done. I put the playfield back in and fired her up. The only issue I had was reversed polarity on the power. I assumed the last guy that worked on it knew how to install a power cord. Obviously he didn't. I swapped the wires and everything checked out. I also reinstalled the 1 ohm resistors on the upper flippers. Actually doing that changed how the game plays. It isn't bad, just different. With less power going to the upper flippers you have more control hitting stuff in the upper playfield. At full power it felt more uncontrolled and super fast. The way I have it now is the way it was when it rolled off the faxtoy line.
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Quoted from cottonm4:

It looks fantastic. And this is a Greatwich play field, correct?

Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

Thanks and yes it is. The playfield color totally works with cabinet colors in my opinion.

Quoted from jdoz2:

Does anyone have an extra apron decal they would like to sell Im needing one for stargazer and didnt order from pinball rescue in time.

Quoted from cottonm4:

I missed getting one for Star Gazer, too.
I'm thinking I'm going to have to get the pin striping tape out and make like a motorcycle gas tank custom painter. It can all be done this way with a lilt effort. The only thing left is to figure out how to get all of the text on some clear plastic/mylar ?? and lay that over the top of the paint.

Quoted from cottonm4:

I missed getting one for Star Gazer, too.
I'm thinking I'm going to have to get the pin striping tape out and make like a motorcycle gas tank custom painter. It can all be done this way with a lilt effort. The only thing left is to figure out how to get all of the text on some clear plastic/mylar ?? and lay that over the top of the paint.

Quoted from cottonm4:

I got your dark blue color from the chip you posted. I could used the light blue color, please.

Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

This came from TractorDoc. The one on the left is the light blue. I had it converted to oil based. I didn’t use his dark blue and went with the one you already have from me. If you need the converted code I can get that also. Just let me know.
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Quoted from Inkochnito:

Look closely... It's not the snake which has a big pointy rack.
Very nice drawing by the way.
Looks a bit like a prequel to the Bride of Pinbot.

Quoted from cottonm4:

I must correct myself. There are 2 two styles of Stern back box lockdown straps. The one I thought was a Bally unit is a Stern unit. The one with the lugs must have come from the beater Dracula I bought.
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All 3 have mostly the same part number: The one without the lugs is STERN B-562 and the unit with the lugs is STERN IB-562. I had never bothered to look at the part numbers until now. Sometime back I installed the one with the lugs in one of my Sterns and it would not fit.
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This is the channel that sits on top of the back glass. I cannot find a part number anywhere on this channel.
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This channel also has two lugs spot welded on.
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When you twist the key to lock your back glass in the back box, the lock strap rolls forward and locks in with the lugs on the back glass channel
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But if you try to install the strap with the lugs into your back box you cannot get it into full lock position because the lugs on the strap interfere with the lugs on the channel.
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The Dracula I bought did not have a back glass and I do not know how the channel for the back glass on Dracula looked. Dracula is an MPU-100 pin. And so is Hot Hand. However, the Hot Hand(donor pin) I parted out has the later style of cabinet and also the later style of cabinet when compared to my CPU-200 pins ( Meteor is the 1st MPU-200 pin).
Stern's productions runs were Hot Hand, then Cosmic Princess, and then Magic. Magic is the last MPU-100 pin. I have never seen a Magic in the flesh and do not know the construction of the cabinet. But my guess is that Magic, like Hot Hand before it, is also an MPU-200 style of cabinet.
Enough of this for right now.
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Kerry has responded to my query of whether he can make the back box strap ( with the square hole for the key lock mechanism ). He says this will be easy to do.
I want and need the lock straps with out the lugs. The STERN B-562.
Is there going to be any demand for an MPU-100 pin lock strap with the lugs?
SPEAK UP !!!!!! How you all answer will determine which strap I send to Kerry. I figure he can make both.
SIDEBAR: I do not know Kerry. Never met him. Our communication has always been via email. I do not have any special connections with Kerry. I just wanted to get that out.
SPEAK UP !!!!!! How you all answer will determine which strap I send to Kerry.
SPEAK UP !!!!!! How you all answer will determine which strap I send to Kerry.

Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

Seawitch is done.

Quoted from dasvis:

Great looking pin! Correct me if I wrong, but I think Stern used regular hex head bolts to attach the legs, not acorn head type.
I like the acorn head better, but if you are going for 100% factory....

Quoted from dasvis:

Great looking pin! Correct me if I wrong, but I think Stern used regular hex head bolts to attach the legs, not acorn head type.
I like the acorn head better, but if you are going for 100% factory....

Quoted from cottonm4:

Todd at Big Daddy has, or had, a stock of those flat top Stern leg bolts.

Quoted from cottonm4:

Kerry said $25.00 has moved the needle enough that will try to kick out a couple of prototypes for me to a look at.
Sling shot kicker arms is what we are talking.

Quoted from Alby:

Hi,
Can someone please advise what diode i need to replace some faulty ones on my Stars drop targets.
Thanks
Peter

Quoted from Mathazar:

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Quoted from bigguybbr:

Any word on this? I just had one snap tonight
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Quoted from cottonm4:

I can't help you. I am waiting just like everybody else.
Sorry for loss. You will just have to get a substitute for now.