Is that the magazine with the $15 cover price and $9 shipping?

Looks to be a packed magazine. That interview alone is 40 pages. Wow!

When people are paying $7k for a new machine, or $7-9k for 1990's Bally/Williams games, then $24 is a drop in the bucket for an expense

Your link takes me to an AOL email login page. I have not had an AOL email account for 15 years.

$15? Is there bourbon in it?

Really? That's where the pin price wailers are taking this argument now? Hell, with the price of pinball machines these days, why not give $100 for a gallon of milk?

Total non sequitur. Saw our old buddy Steven P make that same argument about the price of this magazine on RGP. Enough said.

Ha! You don't put bourbon it it, or nothin'?

You could download the two hour long interview he did with Clay for TOPcast for free.

"How to make money as a pinball operator?"

I'd preface that article with "Wishful thinking:"

; )

Cover photograph, layout, etc. a bit dull. Usually a magazine's premiere issue is flashy and eye catching. Hope the contents are better....
P

Or you could support the community. Up to you.

Who's wailing about pin prices? I made a simple reply to your comment that the mag was expensive. Pins are expensive, its an expensive hobby. This magazine seems to take the Pingame Journal idea to a new level, so its going to be expensive. If someone can spend $9000 on a routed MM, they are a collector who won't mind spending $24 on a quality magazine.

I never said anything about agreeing with the price, nor have I ever complained about pin prices.

How about they release an amazon ebook of the mag for 9.99?

No shipping, no printing, easier to swallow pricetag, way less overhead.....

But who am I kidding, this hobby is for rich old people.

The answer is produce a $15 magazine

That's a pretty small slice of an already pretty small pie don't you think? But perhaps this is the LE version. I'll hold out for the Pro, with the 20 page interview with one of Rogers sons.

And just because someone spends tons of money on pins doesn't mean they don't value a dollar or a euro or a loonie. That's what it sounds like you're suggesting, apologies if I'm misinterpreting.

Also, cover price on Robb Report is $7.99, less on subscription. So there's that.

Click BUY NOW to get 15 easy tips on how to make money on pinball!

Buying a $25 magazine is supporting the pinball community?

OK. Let me figure out this logic.....I am selling used pinballs for $50 each. But these aren't just plain old used pinballs, they are going to hand painted and signed by yours truly. Real pieces of one-of-a-kind art here.

A:Buying them will benefit me.

B:I am part of the pinball community.

C:You should buy my overpriced stuff to support the community.

A:C. Got it.

How about this?

Issue #2 features Steve Ritchie in a Speedo leading against AC/DC.

Articles include:
"Bride of Pinbot: Hot strategies to make her moan"
"Is your game cheating on you? Here's how to know for sure!"
"Steve Kordek - His top secret pinball projects revealed!"
"Special full-color centerfold poster of Python Anghelo"
"Sneak Peek at Greg Freres next project: Droopy Zucchini!"

I would pay $25 for that one.

Id buy that!

No, thats not what I am saying. Basically to sum it up, supply and demand. Pins are expensive because of the demand. However that is relative to the person buying as some people have more funds than others. Same logic on the mag. Its expensive to some but not a big deal to others. My opinion is that someone who spends a ton on a game, is a die hard collector and won't mind spending a premium on the magazine that has to do with this expensive hobby. I am neither saying people don't value their money no matter how much they have, nor am I saying the price is a deal. No hidden meaning on my post, its only an assumption

Hey everybody, there's a story about the Pinside in it, that should count for something!

marketing involves price point. Will you sell $15 magazines? Sure, probably to 100 or so people. If you sold it for $10, you could probably sell 500-1000 copies (hence, more money).

Apple could probably still sell iphones for $600 and there would be apple fan boys that would still buy it, but I'm sure they make much more money by selling them for $200 with 2-year contract.

Since I've never seen a pinball magazine (and knowing half of magazine cost is recouped through advertising), there probably isn't a whole lot of advertising to be had (a dozen small pinball vendors at best). I think a magazine for pinball in general will be a hard sell. With podcasts and two pinball news websites, what's left for news?

Here's the link to the site. I might buy.

http://www.pinball-magazine.com/?page_id=2

Thank you for the working link.

Your welcome.

I think the price for the mag is fair, but shipping costs seem high to me. Shouldn't cost $9 to ship a mag.

Wait... Don't tell me... Peter Jackson is one of your mag's subscribers

I'm guessing it's coming from netherlands? Don't know, it was the default setting when I clicked on shipping...just a guess.

I think a pinball magazine is cool. Let's just hope if they sell subscriptions they can mail them out in a timely manner. PinGame Journal was cool, but you never knew when an issue was going to show up.

I wish him the best of luck in a time when print media is failing! Its not going to be easy! But, I do see an increase in the pinball fan base these days!

Hell, they link to the Iowa Pinball Club, and I link to them!

-Aaron
Links page

I just ordered. You don't have to make a long-term commitment, it's just for a single issue. I think it is worth checking out on that basis.

If PAPA did a magazine that was a tutorial for different games, similar to their vids, I would buy that!

If it's coming from overseas to the U.S., I can see $9 for shipping. I would like to see a table of contents for the issue, before I order, unless what it lists on the cover is what's in the mag.

Noobs and Boobs and the Sellers Who Love Them.
Riveting article, I couldn't put it down.

Looking forward to this mag! However I never got the whole "t-shirt with sports jacket" look. I think I'll start a new trend by wearing a denim jacket, button-down shirt and wacky tie to work.

How about "Tips, Tits and Twits?" ::

For your edification, it wasn't an 'argument' that I made, but commentary on the current silly price inflation in the pinball world. And to clarify further, I am not your old buddy! And, my exact quote in response to someone stating the magazine price was 'crazy' was: "No more ridiculous than the prices many are charging and paying for games these days." Get over it.

Don't take it seriously. Gambit speaks from a place that is not his mouth.

By the sound of it this is going to be more of a book than a magazine. 40 pages for a single interview.
The total number of pages must be well over a hundred if the interview is not the bulk of it.
I will certainly buy the first issue since there is not much else to read with the PGJ so few and far between. This $15 will last me longer than a round of beer.

Add pictures to those 40 pages, as well as some editorial columns and other returning features, and the magazine is likely to count 68 pages or more. Add a couple of advertisements and who knows how many pages it will be.

The plan is to do a couple of issues each year, but there won’t be a fixed publishing date

Taken from the front page of the site.

Hell my $34.00 for PingameJournal at least has me covered for another 3 years at the production rate of 2 issues a year!

PinballNinja.com is a great site at least with the ninja you get a new article and video every few days and it's only 20 Bucks for a subscription.The site is great and filled with great info!!

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Scan Pinside section into PDF?

I just ordered my copy.

There's the softer, gentler side of StevenP that we were promised.