SC and WH2O.

I think the sys 11 stuff with the good rules and cool original themes are next. WW is already on its way. Taxi, HS, Diner, and BOP (Not sys 11 but looks like it) are also games I see value going up. They all have enough rules, charm, and playability to become more desired at restored. The parts are also out there to do so.

mike

Gladiators, If I can swing the deal!

I define an "A" pin on what the market has determined. I take personal preferences out of it.

If the pin has appreciated from original NIB price, excluding extreme rarity like a BBB, then I would say it is an "A" pin as the market has decided that the supply doesn't meet the demand. When you see posts wanting Stern/JJP to make another run of a B/W game because of collectors being priced out, then you know the game is "A" status.

If it is a pin within 60-80% of original value, I would say it is a "B" pin, with some having a chance to become "A" as they become more popular and price goes up because of demand.

Any pin that has 50% and lower value of NIB is a "C" pin.

This approach easily is applied to newer Sterns. Tron LE, AC/DC Premium/LE are examples.

does this factor inflation?

Do you really think DE Star Wars? I mean I do, but I is it becouse I'm a huge Star Wars fan and own it? So many people have been ruined on it becouse of the old roms.

I thoughts WH2O already was?

Hell ya! I play mine all the time! Sounds great with a pinball pro sub in it!

I have a huge Star Wars collection & sold my DE SW because it didn't play actual Star Wars music!?!! That's one thing I like about my SWE1.

I had no idea... That is disappointing.

How have the new roms really helped? I thought it was just adding a ball save?

Edit: I'll search for the thread, it probably answers my question

B title??? BBBB

"A" Definition:
These:
Cactus Canyon
BBB
Safecracker
[OR]
"A" list title must have both be true to qualify:
Must be in the top 30 on pinside.
Must be nearly impossible to find a working one for sale for under $2500. Average sale price should be over $3K

Here's the pins that do not "qualify" in "A" as of today...
Creature
Shadow
Whirlwind
BSD
NGG

"B" list Definition:
Everything else

If people use dumbed down ranking systems like letters, those systems need dumbed down definitions.

Yeah, I get it, you don't have to give your opinion over and over again.

Obvious answer is TX Sector.

Duh

Anything that appears on Pinball Arcade will increase demand for the real machines. It will be interesting to see if prices follow suit...

I bet it could, for anyone even remotely interested in pinball. But only to their demise because the real games are far more difficult than virtual versions.

Pinball Arcade is a conundrum for me, good for the advancement of pinball, but then again, brings in people that potentially will drive prices up. Plus, their use of Kickstarter is really unethical in my opinion. Sure, maybe in initial development, but come on, they've made enough money to go the standard business plan route. You know, put money into development and release a product without the use of donated funds. Hey, for 10 grand you can have lunch with the guys...that's worth something right...NOT!

When I made my want list, I didn't even know 'a' game from 'b' game. I just went after the games I liked. Lucky me, most of them were what are so called 'b' games. If that makes me a lesser pinball enthusiast, I can live with that. I'm having a blast!

Yea my SWE1 is great I love mine too. I just parted with my two cockpit arcades to some collectors becouse I thought it was lame to just have them in storage. Does SWE1 do anything if you beat Darth Maul in the Jedi spirit? I have only lost to him there.