Realistically, I think we are looking at Christmas 2013 before the games are being made for the masses. I am fine with that duration. I would also be fine if they asked for more of a deposit . . . what they are doing they are doing out of love for the hobby, but we all want a quality product and it is hard to believe they are going to make it to the finish line without a little more money from people (which I think would also be wise as it would firmly lock in their buyers).