You will have to tell me what my intentions are then Dave, since you apparently know what they are better than I do.

Well that's not cool. Not to mention that that particular post is ignorant anyway, as it appears to assume that anyone could just request a refund and get it any time they want, which obviously isn't the case.

More posts about no updates to a project so far behind schedule it's not funny.

What's really sad is how many threads it applies to.

Mr positive shows up. Perfect guest list!

For you Dave!

Perfect u and JFJ in the same camp . Says it all . Thanks for all you both offer . Worst case you high can hug and cheer the failures and best case we all get to say f u while enjoying the games .

Gee Dave, dividing people up into "camps" now? Really? "Cheer failures"? Where are you getting this stuff?

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That chip on your shoulder must be awfully heavy ...

That one made be laugh.
Do you think Predator will come with coin mechs?

I have absolutely no problem believing this. What surprises me is that they did not brag about it.

lol.

First show me where "we" come even CLOSE to holding these companies accountable. It's exactly the opposite. Companies are allowed to market their wares here, make all sorts of promises and have fabulous open communication...... right up till the point they fill their coffers with pre-order money.

Then they are given pass after pass for going radio-silent or worse just lying to people.... But that all okay because its "for the greater good of pinball" and the "end justifies the means" - well - at least if its theme you like....

Criticism of said companies?
Well, shit, you must HATE pinball and want pinball to FAIL and also hate puppies.

*exception is Stern bashing is not only permitted, but always treated as "in vogue"

So please don't suggest these boutiques are held in any way accountable.... its just laughable.

Dude hell no. Really?

Really?

C'mon now. *really*?

That's where it's at? Conspiracy theory? People sabotaging the project?

I bet it's the producers of the next Predator movie, and this small 250 run of games would totally torpedo the media push for their next project.

GET A GRIP

It's midnight in California, so time for round 2!

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"Some pinsiders have actively been contacting various sources for parts, licensee holders, competitors, etc... on a regular basis to try and put the halt to the entire project."

yes i have trouble believing this. why on earth, would ANYONE of sound mind, do anything of the sort?
seriously... havent some people got better things to do?

Oh my god those are some great scotches ! 18 years is when they get magical.

I just looked back at the beginning of this trainwreck thread.
Not trying to be snarky, but what accomplishment was the title about anyway?
I really can't figure out what happened at that time.

Even if people DID call Fox, none of that changes that we are a year beyond the mission accomplished, not a single game has been delivered, and there is no real clue when someone will receive a game, or how long it will take for the rest of the 250 to get theirs.

This, Predator was not complete 366 days ago.

But, IMO if you don't want to be called out on this, you shouldn't post you are complete, don't collect $750k in hard earned money for building and say you will be shipping in October 2014, here we are 7-8 months after Kevin started collecting $750k without nary a pin shipping.

I still don't understand how people feel fine with Kevin handling this situation.

However, my intention when bumped this thread, I pointed out how it's been one year now since the game was 'complete'. I had my doubts at the time, I really had my doubts when Kevin changed the money collection plan (that was a deal breaker) and now looking back, it seems I was more correct than some people would like to believe.

I don't understand why I am being shushed in any way. I never made any delivery dates or never collected any money for this project.

This situation is absurd, and people let it happen. First thing I did when Kevin asked for $3,000 up front money, was to say, that's not what we agreed to, we agreed to $250 deposit, I am not shifting the risk of this venture to myself. He's the company, if it makes money he gets rewarded. I don't pay Best Buy a year in advance of buying a TV. I can't recall a thing I buy where I have to pay for it a year in advance.

Does anyone notice far less Kevin posting and responding to anything after he collected $750K?

Is this a coincidence?

Is everyone comfortable with Kevin being able to budget and handle $750K? Does he look like he's had that kind of money and responsibility before?

I'd say the people petting Kevin and not asking hard questions, not allowing others to criticize when they have a valid concern, not pushing back when he asked for $3000 in advance deserve some blame for this fiasco. If we all had said to Kevin, talk is cheap, stick to the plan, cash on delivery (this method works by the way, see AMH).

Let's keep talking about the same points over and over again. I haven't got anything better to do.

Well here's the bottom line for me: If Kevin has the license, free and clear, and it's all good so he can make games without any risk, then how would someone making a phone call ruin anything?

"Hello, Fox? Um, did you license Predator to some guy named Kevin? Oh, you did? Uh, thanks."

What would happen? "Someone called about the license! Quick, take it away!"

However, on the other hand, if the call was made and Fox said "We don't know anyone named Kevin." and things really were put at risk? Who's fault is that? Someone who made a phone call, or someone who didn't actually have the license?

There's just no scenario where this isn't on Kevin.

And that's the whole theme here, there's no reason to be pointing fingers at your fellow Pinsiders. No one here took any money or made any promises. Asking what's happening, nicely or more frustrated, is a perfectly legit thing to do.

No one should be mocking anyone who's in. If you got out and got your money back then maybe don't rub that in. I feel for everyone with cash down on this. It will suck if you don't get a game or your money back, and anyone who laughs at you deserves a temp ban from the site if you ask me.

But just because you're worried or want to see it happen is no reason to circle the wagons around Kevin. He made a lot of promises and took a lot of money, and then he's effectively vanished. It's a bad way to do business, and it's a bad way to treat a community.

I found this worthy to be repeated. Well done sir.

Well, at least there's no boob pix!

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Wait for it.........

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Here you go, now you have a boob pic...

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Well, I just searched this entire thread, and I could not find a single reference to Scotch prior to my very valuable contributions last night, so I think I'm safe.

Seriously, though, what kind of information were you expecting to see posted in this thread?

Kevin removed the "Mission Complete" video from YouTube, and his very last post in this thread, which received 29 thumbs-up and 0 thumbs-down, was 10 months ago...

Scotch...like the promise of a dream license pinball....gets better when adequately "aged"

Scotch, like the drink but love the tape. Where's my god damn Predator pin? I know a fella who's in the first 5 to be made and he hasn't been contacted at all for an update regarding timeline or final payment/shipping plans. I really hope next bi weekly update states first games built and ready to go.
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Here's a way to turn your Preorderator into a win-win:

Buy a bottle of young scotch when you put your money down.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.

Crack open that scotch when your pin arrives.... BAM - magical scotch AND game!

Sorry.....but that was funny.

Here's an interesting video if you want to reminisce instead for the one year anniversary.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2i1uji_predator-players-guide_school

Thanks mate, I've been looking for a copy of this forever, appreciate it

Cool! Brings back some memories... I remember I convinced myself to start saving money for shipping and sales tax (not a negligible amount here!) for summer 2014.

Lagavulin only needs 16 and is the best commercial volume whisky/whiskey ever. That's right homie I'm bringing Isla in your grill, you speysiiiiiide boyz better be ready for a turf war. Byo peat foolz.

I speak jive

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/confusedboners