"Everything is fine"?

Hmmm. It's amazing the lengths that pinball people will go and the "suspension of reality" they will accept to keep their dreams alive

Something is "not fine."

It's one thing for a company to stop delivering updates. However, its something quite different for them to deliberately sanitize the internet of EVERY single reference to their product! No one does that voluntarily....

Anyone who still believes "everything is fine", please send me a PM. I have a friend in Nigeria who needs your help transferring a LARGE sum of money out of the country.

Id say the combination of the game ONLY being shown in person and ZERO online "evidence" of its existence (that the license-holder could access) points to the exact opposite.

10x more troubling is them refusing to answer a pre-paid "investor" ....

They dont have an obligation to report to pinside.... but they do have one to the folks that trusted them with their money.

oh jesus... dont compare Skit-b to the POTUS..... he doesnt deserve THAT kind of disdain

No response to the OP's request for refund
ALL internet sites sanitized of Predator reference...

Tell me again what the "most logical" reason for this is again?

The owner lost his email/Facebook/twitter password or something?
or, wait, what was your other LOGICAL theory?
They sold as many as they want so rather than saying "sold out" (an impressive thing to brag about) they decided to erase any evidence it was ever a product?

Yeah.... your theory is DEFINITELY the most "logical".... lol....

Hides behind as screen name? huh?
You are aware this is an internet forum right? lol.
And, can I assume by your post that your real name is Whysnow?

but let's get back to your post, because.... its hilarious:
So, NOW, the cover story is he is just doing some "version control" by removing all traces and references to his "product." Dude...er, Mr Whysnow I mean.... you are hilarious!

Dont worry... I didn't misconstrued your "zeal" with anything business related...I construed it with having eaten too many paint chips as a kid

My opinion is "scam" is the wrong word.

It's very possible they started with the best of intentions, build a prototype, then got mired in licensing issues they didn't expect.

In the interim, they had to remove all the offending images....

And, since the truth would like spook people and start a "bank run" they've not been 100% forthcoming with these details...

Thats my GUESS based nearly zero facts

I call bullshit on that.

(Small) business owners don't just "unplug" and go on vacation and just tune out client communications for days/weeks.

Usually quite the opposite, they are more likely busting their asses working 12, 14, 16 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Why do YOU feel the need to address it at all?

lol...

Speaking of getting out of your element.... you may want to hang up your internet lawyer job and stick to your full time gig as Predator Spin Control....

Based on that, i think you've shown considerable RESTRAINT. If someone went radio silent with my money for nearly a month I wouldnt be "asking" if its a scam, Id be calling him out as a thief. period.

And, btw, I think the deal with the Australian Rescue WOZ's shows that the squeaky wheel gets the grease around here.... People bitched about that OP getting too negative, but I guaran-damn-tee those machones wouldnt be on the production line today without that public prodding.

Anyways, here's hoping the OP gets his money back.. and everyone else who's probably in line for the same right bout now...

Well that's encouraging.... I can see why youd want to entrust your money for years with such an operation....

So to review, your list of excuses for these guys has gone from:
1. Probably just REALLY busy and cant take a moment to check email and or update the website,
to...

2. Super organized and wanting to make sure OLD data isnt on the website, so all of it is removed so as not to show outdated info/designs/etc, to....

3. So disorganized that he needs a good Samaritan to help him find his ass with both hands because its likely he's misplaced unimportant data like: customer emails, prepayment accounting, etc....

And thats just in the last few hours....

You make "Tanks" defense of JJP look like fair and balanced reporting by comparison.

FACT! Spinach!
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Sorry... I knew I went too far with the spinach post immediately after I posted it.

I'm sorry...

Oh shit, he's only been ignored for 3 weeks.... pffftt.... well, whats the problem then!?!?!

Moderator, close the thread! 3 weeks of email dodging is still within the accepted SLA....

The games long since sold out (according to his PR guy), so presumably the level of emails coming into his suport, sales and personal email is pretty modest right now.

What will it be like when 50 or 100 people turn on brand new machines and have questions/issues?

I'm sure it will be quiet times.....

Good thing a new pinball platform isn't as complicated as figuring out that tricky email thing... oh... wait....

So, its hugs and kisses on pinside when they want money, but "we dont owe them anything" after they get it?

Cant wait to see the rush of pre-payers for their next title....

Anyways, I cant think of any GOOD reason he was forced to remove all game references.... Here's hoping his forthcoming explanation makes y'all happy.

Good luck!

You certainly had a Strong Hand in this stories happy ending..... Kudos

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hmmmm, predator? What's that?

I checked their website and they don't seem to be in the pinball manufacturing business

The OP had a freakout?

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Yes, but you need to qualify for some of those just exactly WHAT their thumb is up....

Epic thread.... and there's a lot of winners here:
1. the OP
2. Whysnots resume for anyfuture "Fearless Boutique Pinball Defender of the Faith" positions that may open up.
3. Smaug
4. MMR coinmech collectors
5. The drunk dude at the Lebowski presentation
5. And Shasta drinkers EVERYWHERE.

Guys.... there's been a lot of emotion here.... and some hurt feelings...... and some strong words thrown around.

It's ok.

Let's just remember there's far more here that binds us together then what separates us.

And we should NEVER forget what's truly important here on pinside:

Somewhere, someplace, there's a kid out there with an awesome autographed DE SW pin and we STILL need to FIND HIM!