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Pre-War Club! 1930 - 1939

By TopMoose

2 years ago


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#151 3 months ago

I just noticed in looking at this ad that Play-Boy Sr. Didn't have a topper. Only Play-Boy Jr. Has the topper.

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#152 3 months ago

Another thing I noticed is that Play-Boy Sr. Has ornate carving one the panel where the coin chute is that matches the carvings on the side of the cabinet. Play-Boy Jr doesn't have the ornate carving. So we've established that a Play-Boy Sr. Has no topper and ornate carving on the front of the cabinet. This should make them easier to identify.

No topper and ornate carvings are probably a Play-Boy Sr that lost it's legs at some point. No ornate carvings and a topper means Play-Boy Jr.

#153 3 months ago

Anyone have any playfield parts for an Exhibit Zip?

#154 3 months ago
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#155 87 days ago
Quoted from Pinbub:

Is one of those yours? I'm curious if the one without the topper shows evidence of it having had one?

Not mine but im intimately familiar with it. I honestly dont remember the holes for the backpiece but come see for yourself at Texas Pinball Festival 2022 Im 99% sure it will be there

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#156 78 days ago

Long time listener, first time caller--

I have no genuine pre war pins to share but I love seeing everyone else's! Great attention to detail on the restorations.

Although I don't have my own game from the olden days, I did build one a few years ago. I called it "Diamonds" in homage to the diamond shape on Baffle Ball. Like Baffle Ball, landing a marble of matching color in a pocket awards double for that ball. I'll toot my own horn and say I think it's remarkably fun to play, and like has been said, even more fun with money riding on it!!

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#157 78 days ago
Quoted from justincasekazoo:

Long time listener, first time caller--
I have no genuine pre war pins to share but I love seeing everyone else's! Great attention to detail on the restorations.
Although I don't have my own game from the olden days, I did build one a few years ago. I called it "Diamonds" in homage to the diamond shape on Baffle Ball. Like Baffle Ball, landing a marble of matching color in a pocket awards double for that ball. I'll toot my own horn and say I think it's remarkably fun to play, and like has been said, even more fun with money riding on it!!
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I like it. Where did you get the coin chute and shooter assembly? Please post a picture of the sides of the cabinet. It looks like you replicated a machine from stoner manufacturing or another manufacturer from the same period. I'd be interested in where you got your inspiration.

#158 77 days ago

Thanks, Erik! The shooter and coin chute came from a Genco Puddin' Head which was given to me a number of years ago. I parted the game out not long after I got it (which I now regret doing!), so I had the parts lying around.

I don't have great lighting now to photograph it, but here's another shot that shows the side a bit more. The elongated diamond-shaped piece on the side closest to the plunger is the ball lift. Since I didn't have access to a period machine to replicate, I kind of engineered it from the ground up. Which means it ended up with a lot of bugs, haha. But I did learn a lot! One of these days there'll be a redesign and it will reappear as the "greatly improved Diamonds Deluxe"!

I think I took most inspiration from Baffle Ball and Ballyhoo. This was my first stab, so in some way I wanted it to resemble other manufacturers' first games. Coincidentally Ballyhoo art also features the diamond shape. Ballyhoo also has a longer playboard and a better proportion, so I leaned closer to that. Mine measures 29" x 17".

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#160 37 days ago

1938 Bally Operator collections book + data available for download
https://pinballnovice.blogspot.com/2021/10/1938-bally-operator-collections-book.html

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#161 15 days ago

Hey we just got this Bally golden wheel in on trade. Looks fantastic and the owner said that they always had it and he’s 70 now

It partially works so I need to clean some assembly’s

What’s something like this worth. Very little info that I can find

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#162 15 days ago
Quoted from arcademan1:

Hey we just got this Bally golden wheel in on trade. Looks fantastic and the owner said that they always had it and he’s 70 now
It partially works so I need to clean some assembly’s
What’s something like this worth. Very little info that I can find
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I'm not any kind of expert, so take my estimates with a grain of salt:
As it is right now, my guess would be $700-$1300 depending on how fast you want to move it.
If you got it fully working? $1100-$2000. Maybe a bit more if you found the right collector, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Unfortunately these older games are typically only picked up by people interested in the history of the hobby, and those tend to be few and far between. If you are just trying to get as much money out of it as possible, you might try selling it to people outside the hobby by playing up the antique curiosity angle rather than the old (outdated) pinball angle.

What ever you decide to do with it, I wish you the best of luck!

#163 15 days ago

Thank you for your help
I would be happy to pass it along to someone that really wants it as it for 1100
Or a trade

I think all it needs is to be cleaned up to make it work. It’s hard since there is practically no info on it

#164 15 days ago
Quoted from arcademan1:

Hey we just got this Bally golden wheel in on trade. Looks fantastic and the owner said that they always had it and he’s 70 now
It partially works so I need to clean some assembly’s
What’s something like this worth. Very little info that I can find
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The demand for most late 1930s through 1940s pinball machines is rather low. I estimate the value of a fully-working 1937 Bally Golden Wheel with good cosmetics to be $425 - $675. Your example appears to have a nice backglass, playfield and cabinet.

This era game has enjoyed only a minor uptick in value during the current pinball renaissance. Comparatively, all other eras have escalated substantially, except for fifties woodrails, which have declined in value the last 3 years, save for a few scarce titles.

If you cannot sell her on Pinside, I suggest that you join and post the game on the "Woodrail Pinball Machines, EM arcade" and "Prewar Pinball" Facebook groups. Those are your best audiences. The "EM Pinball" Facebook group (of which I'm an administrator) is also a great forum. But, we're a private group now and you'll need an invitation to join. PM me if you need help joining either group.

#165 14 days ago

one thing for payout pins is: does it payout perfectly?
Most electric flipperless pins of that era go for $100-$400 depending on condition.
If it's a payout pin and it's complete and works, maybe up to $700 except for a few examples which go for more. But if it doesn't pay out, you're looking at maybe $200 max as it's a major project

#166 14 days ago

No it’s pays out fine
Right now it’s starting to work better I just need to clean things better

#167 13 days ago

I was notified of an auction this week, Northwest of Chicago, where some old pins are being sold. A beautiful 1935 Chicago Express will be on the block on Friday, with a ball lock mechanism reminiscent of Flight 2000.

https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-catalog/Day-2-Annual-Fall-Classic_2P5VSMEMOB/

There’s no way I can make it up there, but maybe a member of the Pre-War Team will snag it? If so, please post here. I’d love to see it in action.

#168 13 days ago
Quoted from TopMoose:

I was notified of an auction this week, Northwest of Chicago, where some old pins are being sold. A beautiful 1935 Chicago Express will be on the block on Friday, with a ball lock mechanism reminiscent of Flight 2000.
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-catalog/Day-2-Annual-Fall-Classic_2P5VSMEMOB/
There’s no way I can make it up there, but maybe a member of the Pre-War Team will snag it? If so, please post here. I’d love to see it in action.

Good Catch, and a Unique Pin.....Some other really nice arcade pieces too!

#169 13 days ago
Quoted from TopMoose:

I was notified of an auction this week, Northwest of Chicago, where some old pins are being sold. A beautiful 1935 Chicago Express will be on the block on Friday, with a ball lock mechanism reminiscent of Flight 2000.
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-catalog/Day-2-Annual-Fall-Classic_2P5VSMEMOB/
There’s no way I can make it up there, but maybe a member of the Pre-War Team will snag it? If so, please post here. I’d love to see it in action.

Of course, if someone wants to go to the auction, bid for me and meet me in Toledo to hand off the game, that would be cool too.

#170 13 days ago
Quoted from TopMoose:

I was notified of an auction this week, Northwest of Chicago, where some old pins are being sold. A beautiful 1935 Chicago Express will be on the block on Friday, with a ball lock mechanism reminiscent of Flight 2000.
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-catalog/Day-2-Annual-Fall-Classic_2P5VSMEMOB/
There’s no way I can make it up there, but maybe a member of the Pre-War Team will snag it? If so, please post here. I’d love to see it in action.

thanks for the heads-up! I love watching people spend their money on crazy shit
Here are links to each day:
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-catalog/Day-1-Annual-Fall-Classic_GZREHZ99W2/
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-catalog/Day-2-Annual-Fall-Classic_2P5VSMEMOB/
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-catalog/Day-3-Annual-Fall-Classic_RA23KFPT19/
someone bump this in a few days and lets see what prizes were realized

Chicago Express is a great looking game but I find the gameplay design quite lacking, so it's a pass from me.
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/chicago-express-coin-op-pinball-game-166010477_D4F40269CB

they have a prewar-style Kicker Catcher there, which is nice to see (full manikin) https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/1930s-coin-op-kicker-catcher-football-skill-game-_654475AA78

a bunch of shooting games like https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/shoot-the-duck-coin-op-gum-vender-165908456a_B4B4EEB80B

There's lot of really cooll random stuff to check:
RKO Pictures spotlight https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/rko-pictures-movie-studio-light-166140640_3BC4BD8B67
scrap metal cowboy sculptures! https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/scrap-metal-art-cowboy-3-165795323_6614B16997
an entire 1932 carousel! https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/1932-spillman-carousel-166175867_2F34A7F940
very cool weighing machine https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/voland-precision-laboratory-apparatus-165795317_73D4760B78
a ferris wheel seat? https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/ferris-wheel-amusement-park-ride-seat-165795311_CC44F65AE4
imagine having the room for stuff like a giant wheel? https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/evans-big-six-wheel-165795300_0D44B23A34
1945 movie jukebox! https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/mills-1945-sono-vision-movie-jukebox-165794949_9794A879E3
a high-striker! https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/vintage-high-striker-game-166297398_5884E9CB6D
great radio selection but I love these the most https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/lot-of-2-hallicrafters-radios-165795549_CA74067B8A

I have one of these: https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/northwestern-morris-il-5-cent-gumball-machine-165_A014A9FA3A

#171 10 days ago

Any recommendations for cleaning the coin mech on a Rockola? It seems to be kind of gummed up, and doesnt return on its own.

I don’t see any good way of pulling the entire mech apart. I have it removed from the cabinet.

#172 10 days ago
Quoted from djblouw:

Any recommendations for cleaning the coin mech on a Rockola? It seems to be kind of gummed up, and doesnt return on its own.
I don’t see any good way of pulling the entire mech apart. I have it removed from the cabinet.

UltraSonic cleaner

#173 10 days ago

oh wow that auction was a bust for the sellers. So many unsold items, and lots of sold stuff went for the lowest possible bid....

#174 10 days ago

I've got a couple of 30's game pages on my web site.

1939 Bally Champion
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https://www.funwithpinball.com/resources/1939-Bally-Champion

and a few details about '34 Rockola World's Series
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https://www.funwithpinball.com/resources/Worlds-Series

/Mark

#175 9 days ago
Quoted from Wmsfan:

UltraSonic cleaner

Good idea. Just simple green & water?

I was originally thinking to soak it in a degreaser, but thought that it might effect the chrome on it.

#176 9 days ago
Quoted from djblouw:

Good idea. Just simple green & water?
I was originally thinking to soak it in a degreaser, but thought that it might effect the chrome on it.

Yes, simple green and water.

It has not affected the chrome in my experience. Rinse throughly when done. I hook it on the front of a fan for a while to completely dry it out.
I’ve done several coin slides this way and it works well. Allows you to pick up some nasty looking ones at shows or eBay and have a nice cleaned up/out one afterwards.

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#177 2 days ago
Quoted from arcademan1:

Hey we just got this Bally golden wheel in on trade. Looks fantastic and the owner said that they always had it and he’s 70 now
It partially works so I need to clean some assembly’s
What’s something like this worth. Very little info that I can find
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What a beauty. I would probably buy this if it wasn't on the other end of the world. Best of luck selling it and thanks for the pictures!

#178 1 day ago

arcademan1 Any updates on the Golden Wheel?

#179 1 day ago

No I’ve decided to post it for sale

#180 1 day ago
Quoted from cait001:

oh wow that auction was a bust for the sellers. So many unsold items, and lots of sold stuff went for the lowest possible bid....

Dang...I blew off the auction thinking games and stuff would go stupid prices....I shoulda kept an eye on that chicago express. Not too bad of a price, I suppose.

#181 1 day ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

Dang...I blew off the auction thinking games and stuff would go stupid prices....I shoulda kept an eye on that chicago express. Not too bad of a price, I suppose.

when I posted that the prices weren't all updated. It looked like some were, but it was sketchy. I now know better than trust those sites for live updates. Things weren't nearly as dire as I first thought
But still, good price on Chicago Express

#182 1 day ago
Quoted from arcademan1:

No I’ve decided to post it for sale

Hope the sale goes well. Wish I was closer.

#184 1 day ago
Quoted from arcademan1:

It can always be shipped

That is true. And it would look nice next to a Christmas tree....

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