Please do a video of Par Golf if you can!

Does anyone have photos of the ball lift for a 1932 Ball 3-Ring Circus?

I'm asking for the seller - anybody interested in this? It's still for sale Please see my posts on the topic.

PAMCO Hi-de-ho going price? This is the thread. I don't know how to link the original posts. Also, if anybody knows, what would be a good price for something like this?

I just quoted it over here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/%e2%97%8bsome-flipperless-just-came-up-on-cl-e-bay%e2%97%8b/page/16#post-5997461

here is the original post I assume you're talking about: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/%e2%97%8bsome-flipperless-just-came-up-on-cl-e-bay%e2%97%8b/page/14#post-4881341

I'm not sure what it's worth but if it's still for sale this long later, it probably means $750 obo was too much.
I'm a bit surprised, as complete + working payout pins are often more collectible than other late 30s pins.
If it was anywhere near me I'd immediately toss a $400 USD offer as it looks pretty good and would make a wonderful winter project.

Estate sale. Dumb luck!

Hey all,

On the Moorman Par Golf game I mentioned about a month back there is a viewing slot on the playfield, presumably so the operator and look at the most recent coins played and notice slugs, etc. The mechanism is missing. I know I have seen at least one prewar machine with a similar viewport and I would like any information on what it might have looked like, if it was a standard ABT part, etc.

Thanks!
Mike

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Would love to add a Par Golf to the collection someday!! Great pickup!

Freshly restored 1934 Genco Pontiac. She's about 98% done... still need to find/make a gate nail for the left side gate, print repro name card and "10 balls 5 cents" cards. And at some point, someone trimmed the legs down 10", so I will probably eventually make new legs for it. and it is missing a tilt indicator (goes in the hole at the left side of playfield at score plate), not sure I'll ever find a replacement. If you have one, let me know!

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Slowly bringing this one back to life. 1936 Mill’s “Tycoon”. Part slot machine - part pinball. (Slot mechanism being restored by pro. Me I’m just trying to keep up. Painting is not my profession. Ugh). Cleaning these parts are time consuming but it has to be done to make it shine! And they used colored paper to have different colors for bulbs. Amazing these were still there.

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You guys need to start restoration threads on these, Im sure im not alone in thinking people would love to see the progress of these old timers getting some love.

loll I just sent you a PM on another topic! I'm trying but as stated I'm not a painter by any means and this cold weather doesn't help. Just basic black on the outside of the cabinet on mine, looked great, then put on some clear and wham - spots of wrinkles....ugh

I do have a thread on mine, just asking questions there, but I'll post some updates and photos. The man doing the slots reconditioning is doing some amazing work for it. I should have that back this week.

3rd photo down on post #109 shows the condition the legs were in. Sat in water? Dogs or beavers chewed on them? I'm hoping these are a little better.

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Hi All,

I'm retiring from restoring Rockola World's Series pinball machines, and have listed the last pair games that I have been restoring since 2019, in the Pinside market section. I will still make Rockola parts and support my customers. The first one is serial number 35570 nearly perfect. The second one did not have a serial number, but is very nice.

-Nate

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Beautiful work! Here’s a couple of the Mills Tycoon (see separate thread). She’s almost there. About 85%.

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wow, thanks Nate! and it's great news to know you'll still be selling parts

Anyone have a 1939 Chicago Coin Nippy? Looking to understand how the game plays and scores.

Was a 1939 Nippy designed to use a smaller pinball than the standard size of 1 1/16"?

Here's 3 video's I've recently produced for the Dutch Pinball Museum. They're part of a series we're making to educate the general public about the history of pinball. Thought you guys might like them. If you do, please consider to give them a 'thumbs up' on Youtube. Enjoy!

these are great little videos. Will there be more?

it's post-war put I love this Hot-Rods video you posted. It's an obscure gambling game so it's a blessing to have an explainer video like this.

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I'm glad to hear you like the videos! Thanks much for the subscription. I really appreciate that.

And: yes, there will definitely be more! Don't expect new content daily, but our plan is definitely to make more educational vids.

one thing that is always great is just like 5 minute dedicated gameplay videos of really obscure and rare stuff. Like I would love to see 5 minutes of Hot Rods gameplay, even if just a gambling machine.
With the pre-50s stuff, and even some 60s, there is minimal documentation online, especially little well-recorded video.

(yes yes one day I'll follow my own advice and have a friend over and record/upload gameplay videos of my own stuff...)

I like to believe I ran into something quite special today. A beautiful Bally Roundup, from 1936. It's in great shape for a machine from this vintage. It also seems to be semi-complete: all that seems to be missing is the playfield glass, the battery pack (these early EM machines ran on batteries, believe it or not) and the shooter housing.

I have still to examine it better, but it's a very interesting machine that seems to have two seperate payout systems.

In time, I would like to make the machine and the payout systems work. For power, I'm thinking using a modern transformer might be the best idea. Does anybody happen to know the voltage that Bally's from this vintage are supposed to run on? Also, if anybody has or knows a shooter housing for one of these for sale, please let me know!

I could not find anything online but a few Billboard and Coin Machine Journal ads on ipdb.org. So if anybody has any information about this generation of Bally's, or this specific machine, please share!

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Roundup layout looks like the Bally Jumbo one ball. Scores the same except for the one 10 point hole having a mystery payout. Very cool & love the artwork on it. Can see that someone removed pins to make it easier to avoid the upper "out" hole. Probably not the operator, who would be more likely to add pins where a player wouldn't want them.

Would it be sacrilegious to put steel balls in my Whiffle? I think they originally came with nine white marbles and one red marble but they just don't have enough weight. They just kinda float down the board.

Wow, you are right! My 1936 Bally Roundup is a 1935 Bally Jumbo with added features and new artwork. Excellent detective work, thank you!

Now I at least have some more info on the machine's background and how it is supposed to work. The schematics for Jumbo are even on ipdb.

Anybody know what voltage a 1936 Bally is supposed to run on? 6v dc or 12v dc?

6 volts if it is like Jumbo, which used four large cylindrical single cell batteries in series. Your light bulb #'s, if any, could provide a clue.

Well it is a remake of Jumbo, playfield wise. With some extra features added, including two lamps. They both say something different. I'm not quite sure what to make of it.

I would guess the one in the first picture says 6v, .33A. Not so sure about the one in the second picture. 2w, .3A? Or 8w, .3A, maybe?

What do you guys think?

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I think the bulbs are 6v 0.3A, and the payout motor is likely 6v too. Not sure how many amps that motor would require. I would try a wall adaptor (transformer) that puts out 6v 3A and see if that works.

the pacific pinball museum has a few machines from the 1930's in their warehouse I can look in if a 6V supply doesn't work.

they also have a hot-rods in the public museum, but it's not working. I guess I should fix it so people can play it ... do you have the schematic for it or is it not really needed?

That would be great, I will let you know if it works or not. However, it would specifically need to be one of the larger Bally payout models that were made around 1935-1936. Like Jumbo, Prospector, Round Up or Ace.

I'd say it's definitely worth it to get it playing. Hot-Rods is a very good example of the approach Bally was taking with pinball at that time: while Gottlieb really wanted to create games of skill, Bally was very much still on the gambling path.

I don't think the Dutch Pinball Museum (the owner of the Hot-Rods in my video) has the schematics for theirs, but it should be quite straightforward. You can always send me a PM if you have a question on how it's supposed to work.

I don't see those on their inventory list, but I'll be at the warehouse next week and will rummage around.

no luck on the power supply. I just noticed you're looking for the shooter cover. I'll rummage again on monday. I think the same cover was used on some one-ball games and there's a couple parts one-ball playfields in the warehouse.

Thank you for checking! Much appreciated.

It would be amazing if you had a fitting shooter cover laying around. You are right: a shooter cover from another Bally One Ball game should fit, as long as it's the type that used the larger 1" balls. It should look like this (photo from ipdb):
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Again, many thanks for your help!

This look right? Bally bumper playfield

It's a standard 1-1/16". Pinball in the pic.

You need the metal plate for the left side of runway the ball hits when it ejects from lifter?

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Yes, that's it! Amazing. I have sent you a PM.

those normally go for 200-300 at shows. fun machine to bet dollars on

prospect / jiggers hole was normally double score

--JEff

Just finished tumbling one of the payout mechs of my 1936 Bally Roundup. It hardly moved because of all the oxidation, rust and dirt. Now it can spit out nickels like never before. Quite satisfying.

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Next up is probably the coin slider.

That's a good two Amstels worth of work, nice job!

Here's a few: 1932 Gottlieb Play-Boy, 1932 Gottlieb Five Star Final, non coin-op home edition. 1928 or so "IT"

The interesting thing about Play-Boy is that it has the 2 Free Play holes in each lower corner. It is absolutely original and not a hack. The only other 2 pictures I can find online don't have the Freeplay holes, neither does the ad for the game. I'm thinking it's really early or kind of late.

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ok that is interesting about the Play-Boy ive never noticed. Here are 2 examples. Ones in Texas from TPF and one iss in Florida from Free Play Florida.

I checked my Master Play-Boy and it also has the free play holes

--Jeff
http://www.historyofpinball.org

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Jeff
Is one of those yours? I'm curious if the one without the topper shows evidence of it having had one? Mine still has the holes. I assume they all had them but it seems most have gone missing. Mine also has holes from it having had handles on the side but I doubt they were original as I've never seen them on another machine or in ads. I was going to start a thread specific to Play-Boy and post pictures from when it was taken apart but if you guys and gals don't mind I'll post some here.

Jeff
I also noticed the Play-Boy you posted with the free play holes is a ten ball for a penny, where as mine is ten for a nickel,.....the plot thickens!
Edit: the ad I posted shows they come in penny or nickel form. What's interesting in the second picture posted by you is that there is no pricing listed on the playfield!