Big Bang Bar
Capcom, 1996So no remake has been confirmed, and may never happen.
However PPS has repeatedly teased about Capcom parts and similarities... Speculation is very high that one day or another... BBB could very likely be reissued.
IF IT WAS... And they made 1000 at $8000: Would you buy one?
If yes, add your name and a number to the list. Perhaps a thread with 200+ buyers would... Grease the wheels...
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Yes but, the price will have to be less than 8k. I'm looking at 6-6.5k range for this one. MMR was the only one I was willing to reach that high for and it was still higher that what I was truly comfortable with.
I'm hoping Rick can sell some of the other runs for cheaper than MMR.
Quoted from Jared:However PPS has repeatedly teased about Capcom parts and similarities...
Dude IDK where you're getting your facts/rumors from but based on my experience the Capcom BOM is most similar to that used by DE as opposed to Bly/Wms, and Gene still owns all the Capcom IP (afaik).
Sorry to piss on your dream.
But if you really want a BBB, they are out there for the right price.
You either have a lot of hard to get information, or you really enjoy stirring the pot. Either way, they are both in the strange column.
Quoted from dantebean:7k, would think about it. We as collectors need to stop saying "will pay 8k" for remakes."
7K !!
Quoted from jrivelli:Has everyone played BBB enough to know the gameplay? It is help in high regard from the sweet art package and rarity. Gameplay is not the best to be honest.
I just played it for the first time at Explosion. I liked it a bunch. Not $8000 liked though. More around $6500 liked.
For Reference I liked WOZ at around $7200 and MM around $7000 when I played them at Explosion. Thats NIB liked prices.
Quoted from Jared:So no remake has been confirmed, and may never happen.
However PPS has repeatedly teased about Capcom parts and similarities... Speculation is very high
Teased is one way of putting it.
F'n with us is another.
I'm all over a BBB remake. I just hope they get to put Bar on the backglass. I hope they mirror it as well and make some other improvements.
Quoted from mrbillishere:But if you really want a BBB, they are out there for the right price.
Sadly they are at too high of a price. 7-8k would be the right price for many.
Yes, I'm in.
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where did that one come from ... lol ... it would not happen with us, try IPB and we are more than happy to help them if they want as needed, but I think they are working on trying to get Kingpin going ....
Quoted from PPS:where did that one come from
Hey it's Pinside. Rumors/dreaming/wishing/bitching is what we do. 
Quoted from PPS:where did that one come from ... lol ... it would not happen with us, try IPB and we are more than happy to help them if they want as needed, but I think they are working on trying to get Kingpin going ....
Well this thread is dead. LOL..
It's a nice thought anyways.
I guess my thought is if we had a thread wth 1000 people verbally committing to spend 8,000,000 on a pinball machine... Somewhere... Someone... Would make it happen.
As you know, it's all about demand.
This thread is gauging demand.
Quoted from PPS:where did that one come from ... lol ..
You guys it came from him..
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we do have a bunch of the wms Big Bang Bar stuff as wms had done some arrangement with capcom for bbb ...
Quoted from PPS:him is me, but I just said we have that stuff ...
lol, you are such tease : )
just trying to get my Karma points up ... need to get enough to trade them in for airfare soon ... I can do that can't I?
Quoted from PPS:just trying to get my Karma points up ... need to get enough to trade them in for airfare soon ... I can do that can't I?
No..no..no, not airfare, but cash credits towards your next PPS remake purchase. 
I would be in for a BBB.
I'll only buy one if it's much more expensive.
$8,000 is WAY too cheap, and certainly no good for pinball.
I have an IPB (Capcom) BBB, and while it would be interesting to see a Williams-style conversion, I'd much rather see Kingpin get made. Kingpin would probably sell better anyway.
Another thing - a WMS BBB would feel and play significantly different from a Capcom/IPB model. One of the reasons I heard WMS skipped out on BBB back in the day was the fact WMS flippers had difficulty making the ramp. They can make IJ's ramp OK so this may have been BS, but the difference in hardware (not just flippers, but everything else) would certainly be noticeable. Capcom stuff is built like a brick shithouse - it's the only stuff I've played that feels better than WPC hardware. WOZ comes damn close 
Quoted from Jared:I guess my thought is if we had a thread wth 1000 people verbally committing to spend 8,000,000 on a pinball machine...
...you'd probably actually be able to sell it to about 300 of them 
Best thing I ever did was sell my NIB BBB. Played a few games on it at Pinball Life the other day...NO THANKS! The game looks cool, but just isn't very fun. And that bar waitresses voice? Damn is that annoying!
I wouldn't even buy one for half the "proposed" remake price unless I was allowed to sell it off for a profit.
Quoted from bigdaddy07:Yes but, the price will have to be less than 8k. I'm looking at 6-6.5k range for this one. MMR was the only one I was willing to reach that high for and it was still higher that what I was truly comfortable with.
I'm hoping Rick can sell some of the other runs for cheaper than MMR.
I don't see this happening. I don't think Rick will be running tons of titles at bargain prices. $8k is what we should expect for anything. Its no cheaper to make a fish tales than a MM. Further, Rick has been ramping up on parts for MM for a while and selling them in his stores. The parts for Capcom games seem hardly available. Rick doesn't own the rights to Capcom. I don't see any BBB happening. Further, I don't see PPS making many more remakes. Afm maybe. Mb maybe. That's probably it. Doubt demand is even there for $8k CC that can't run continued. We aren't going to be seeing every title new at $5-6k. Just wont happen.
Quoted from tbanthony:BBB is only valuable because it's rare and has some mystique due to the boutique build. The theme is kinda cool. Gameplay is nothing that special to me (not top 10; #35 according to Pinside Top 100). Build them in volume and the price will plummet.
Agreed 100%. If BBB was produced as any other Capcom was, it would be priced where any other one was. If any other Capcom was as rare, you would see it valued as BBB is.
Quoted from dantebean:7k, would think about it. We as collectors need to stop saying "will pay 8k" for remakes."
Yes, this has been going on far far too long.
Quoted from Atomicboy:Agreed 100%. If BBB was produced as any other Capcom was, it would be priced where any other one was. If any other Capcom was as rare, you would see it valued as BBB is.
I agree 40%. BBB has much better artwork and a top-notch theme compared to the other Capcoms. I doubt it would be economical to build compared to AFM, but I think it would sell a decent amount.
Quoted from PPS:I probably did, but that's because I was under NDA ... so I have a good reason
So you were under NDA with yourself? How does that work exactly?
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The original BBB remake sold 191 copies. At the time, I suspect most people had never played a BBB because only 14 originals existed. IMHO this is why interest in the BBB remake was so limited. If another BBB remake was announced, I think it would sell a lot better.
Keep in mind, 4000 + original MM's were produced. And, an extra 1000 remakes sold in less than a day. With 205 BBB (total originals and remakes) in the world, it seems like there is an opening in the market for more.
Just my 2 cents,
Tom
Quoted from markmon:...CC that can't run continued...
Who says?
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