(Topic ID: 141117)

Power Play saucer too strong


By Soop

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

Hello Pinsiders! I have just recently purchased a Bally Power Play and it has a nasty problem. The saucer kick-out hole is just way too strong. The previous owner had installed a new MPU bard and driver board (appear to be Rottendog). The playfield was mylar-ed at an early point as the paint is almost perfect (has some bubbles though so it's gotta go). The saucer hole is pretty worn from the pop bumpers though. Whenever a ball goes in it scores correctly but ejects into the glass!! It seems to be the correct eject assembly, I did take the relief spring off but it seemed extremely tight, looks stock, have no idea how tight that's even supposed to be. Thanks in advance for any help!

#2 4 years ago

Might have the wrong coil installed. Check the manual for specs on that coil.

#3 4 years ago
Quoted from cody_chunn:

Might have the wrong coil installed. Check the manual for specs on that coil.

Yeah, should be a 26-1200

#4 4 years ago

Aha, upon further inspection it appears a coil has melted here at some point! I did check the parts index at planetary pinball and it does say this is the correct coil but I'm interested to see if that 26-1200 is less brawny than the 27-1300. Thanks Cody and Dothedoo!!

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#5 4 years ago

The 26-1200 should be a more powerful coil, although you'd probably never notice the difference. Everything else looks in order, from what I can see of the mech.

What does the top side look like? Do you have the two little prongs that provide the ramp out for the ball? It's a little metal piece that's welded on the bottom side. Not uncommon for the weld to break and the piece falls out. If that's missing the ball may be bouncing off the front lip of the saucer hole straight up into the glass.

EDIT: I can see the piece in your 2nd pic so that's probably not the problem unless it's bent on the top side.

#6 4 years ago

The shooter rod barrel spring hack may be part of the problem. It is too strong and doesn't have the extension of the correct spring.

#7 4 years ago

Following is a picture of a Bally saucer kick out mech.

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#8 4 years ago

YEP!! I think you're absolutely right Minnesota13! When I was checking around I realized there is almost no give at all with that spring. Thanks to everybody for the help!! I've decided the whole shebang is coming apart after finding other hacks and cold solder joints. Starting with the power supply and working out from there.

#9 4 years ago

Ok, so I've identified the correct spring as a Bally SP-199-11, problem solved right? Have scoured the corners of the worldwide web and came up empty. Also found that the person who had this one has put in straight wireforms for the flipper return lanes. They work but I want the ones I remember with this game that had the little curve in them: M-121-43 & M-121-44. These were ubiquitous in the 70s Bally EM and early SS games but are also impossible to find.

The paint on the playfield is pretty vibrant for it's age ... because somebody mylared it (without cleaning it seems like ... a blessing/curse that I am going to tackle after I've scanned the playfield and am feeling exceedingly lucky. The only thing scaring me there is the insert decals. The artwork is definitely in my wheelhouse.

Anybody have some of these for sale or have any good places to find them? Sorry, am very much a newbie but a long time pinball fanatic. I kept a promise I made to myself by buying this machine and I am going to restore it the right way to the limits of my abilities come hell or high water!

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#10 4 years ago

Also to the folks at CPR! I'm ordering 2 plastic sets!! This game is gonna live for a long time!!

#11 4 years ago

Machine looks good..........

#12 4 years ago

You can purchase the entire eject assembly with the correct coil installed for less than $20.
ebay.com link » Like

You can also visit a hardware store and purchase some extention springs of varying sizes and see what works best.

Generally the easiest way to get what you in playfield hardware is to purchase a parts playfield.

#13 4 years ago

Thanks! The journey has begun, I took a few pics of before, I may try to organize the pics and put em on the restoration board

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