Phantom of the Opera
Data East, 1990Can anyone find some recent sale info for a POTO for me? My uncle wants me to help him sell his. He "saw one listed for $5000". I tried to explain to him that is not a real price but I think some cold hard stats are what it is going to take to prove this to him.
I realize condition is king. I have not examined his yet, so I am unaware of its current state. I do know that it is a genuine one owner HUO and has low plays.
I haven't seen any pics or the machine itself yet. Like I said, I know condition is everything, so I am not really looking for a price on this one. More so just some general sales data for this title overall.
Thanks for the input hollywood. $2000 is around the median I was expecting
You seem to be dialed in regarding condition and how it effects pricing. There are very few, if any, HUO POTO machines in pristine condition, and fewer still that came on the market.
Yes, some retailer or clown on Ebay can list one for $5K, but whether it sells in the next 5 years or not is unlikely.
If the pin is HUO that looks & plays like a month old machine, I happen to think there are categories.
If one wants a quick sell, price it at $2000
If one doesn't mind waiting a few months $2500
If one doesn't mind waiting a few months to a few years $3000
If one is in no hurry whatsoever, has no scrupples about ripping someone off, and is hoping a sucker will bite $5000
Thanks everyone. I am hoping to go see the machine in person next weekend. It is located in OC, NJ. I will post some pics once I take them
Hey - if you are serious about selling shoot me a pm.
I'm looking for a POTO and not afraid to drive to get one.
Thanks
I sold a damn near perfect machine to a fellow pinsider for 2k. It was gorgeous. Mask was perfect. Electronics cleanest I had seen in a machine that old. The light board behind the back glass was white with no burn marks at all. Playfield had some of the typical gold leaf paint missing here and there. I have seen a few machines for more but they don't seem to move. And the company on ebay that has the checkered black and white floor always wants stupid money for machines.
Quoted from pinloverPDX:And the company on ebay that has the checkered black and white floor always wants stupid money for machines.
Haha. I hate it when I see those floors. The prices are insane!!
Quoted from hollywood:What about the scorpion inserts? The rollover lanes? This machine is known to have terrible insert wear.....
Ps goodmanners, I called dibs
You're close - I will come over to play it.
When you get sick of it you can sell it to me. Lol
I'm not greedy.
http://www.bostonpinball.biz/ebay_0515_4.htm
Not sure if this helps, but it says there have been 68 sold at an average price of $1,492 with a minimum price of $372 and a maximum price of $5,500. Unfortunately there has only been one sale since 11/25/14 for a price of $2,025.
Pinballprice.com has 19 total sales with a minimum of $699 and a maximum of $5,499. The most recent sale in May of 2015 was for $1,700.
http://www.pinballprice.com/MachineSalesResults.aspx?selection=Name&txbName=phantom
I have plans to see the machine in person next Saturday August 1st.
If at that time the machine goes up for sale I will let you guys know first.
I am happy to report that while this machine is not an HUO (plugged lock bar holes), it is in really nice condition. Very minor playfield wear around the single note insert at the top lanes and at the bottom of the playfield near the trough entrance. The magic mirror has a lot of wear but it works. One broken plastic (the baby one) that i am going to repair with a UV epoxy. The scorpion and insert lanes are near perfect. The backglass has a tiny flake missing from the mask but is otherwise perfect.
I am sorry to report that it will not be for sale at this time. My uncle did say that when he decides to sell his OC home, he will sell it. So sometime in the next 5 years a sweet POTO will hit the market in south Jersey. Haha.
I just wanted to take a second to comment on the in home service he recieved a while back from Monarch Billiards. They are located around the corner from me. He bought the machine from them in 1993. He called them for service about 10 years ago. The batteries were corroded (he had no idea they were in there lol). Anyway, they fixed the corrosion and hooked up a new housing. Problem is instead of mounting the housing, they left it dangling from the board with the whole contraption wrapped in electrical tape to keep the batteries from falling out. They also slapped their STICKER over the center of the apron where the cursive POTO logo is screen printed. Finally they did a small repair to the organ mech. When they reattached it's mounting bracket, they used a wood screen that was way too long. It was literally sticking out of the playfield in the right orbit a quarter inch. I could not believe it. Now there is a small hole there. I am unsure how it effects game play since there was no chance I was rolling those balls around the playfield, they had reached full on sandpaper stage.
Long story short, do not ever call Monarch Billiards. 90% of this machines minor damage was caused by them "fixing" stuff.
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