It seems that JJP should rereleased this game with corrected playfields. Which leads to this follow up: how infuriating would that be to all the first adopters?? I tried to buy a potc le, but failed to obtain one. I ended up "settling" on dialed in le. I guess I'm glad I did. I still feel this game deserves more units made, but also to be sorted out, first.

I think I'll be more interested to hear what they do with the Wonka playfields, as any talk of revisionist Pirates playfields/ future game runs is without evidence.

Do we know if JJP has resolved this issue on more current build/sales and if so is there an approximate manufacturing date?

Pinball Haus in Brisbane is now a Titan Pinball distributor!
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My WOZ and Hobbit are perfect also... maybe the clear bonds to the wood better than the ink?

Thanks for that, that makes things much easier. Great product these titan rubbers. They look great and the slings work well with them. Just wish the hammer was a bit longer so it did not escape. Almost thinking of drilling the rivet out of the hammer, moving it up 3mm up the arm and redrilling a new hole to attach.

Will check out the other titans. Curious to give the flipper rubbers a go on my other machines. Stupid question is it titans on the flippers on pirates or standard rubber, it looks like pinball life rubber.

So far I've had no hammer escapes since switching to the lower slot on double star posts+silicone washers.
Will update if that changes but I'm optimistic it's fixed.

Are your slings just as active as stock?

I had to adjust the leaf holders a bit after the star posts, after that, yes.

Did we? I don't know about you, but myself- I I feel like I've heard everything at this point by now.

Height was the problem (ZaphX), height isn't the problem it's the width (this poster, a couple others), regular post plus JJP washer equals sling escapes as well (at least one poster), a regular star post is good enough to be the fix after the leaf adjustments (at least one poster).

I think it's still very murky what the least intrusive actual fix really is.

Today the JJP polycarbonate washers for the regular posts arrive. The gents at JJP tell me it's not 'too late' to install them without risk to my playfield despite the lower left post slot looking like the attached picture.

Personally I'm a bit sceptical but unless y'all think they're wrong.

I think I'm gonna go with their judgment and give them a go, given all that I've seen and heard so far being all over the place, and the fact that once you go starpost, you probably can't dial em back to the standards.

So for me it's probably going to be the least invasive fix, then move up to the starposts if the washer fix doesn't actually stop the swelling from turning into chipping. But I definitely need to see how they install first.

In sum, it'll be interesting to see how they look installed and if the tiny bit of lift they provide causes sling escapes.
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If it’s any consolation, the star posts look a lot nicer than the stock posts. I changed over to the star posts with the neoprene washers, no hammer escapes. I had no pf damage, just precaution, but I like the look better.

All playfields are sealed before ink goes on to wood. I do 2 spray coats to my playfields with interior waterbourne Varethane gloss. Been doing it for over 12 years with Sorcerer & other direct ink restorations. New playfields Star Gazer & Seawitch. For finish auto clear coats from Omni, & many other brands they seem to work very well over the years. I always wipe the bare playfield wood with naptha before first seal coat of Varethane.

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My #1 concern is gameplay but you know what? I think you're right about the cheap ass skinny posts. And worse comes to worse, I have superbands. Should those not work, I have some double posts as well.

Here's what the black-out effect looks like.

Side question- when I get new sling plastics, should I put the little mylar circle on the bottom of the plastic at the spot where the middle post bolt touches it?
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If you put metal 1" washers on the two sling posts without the screw, that will raise the plastic enough so you won't need to worry about the screw touching the plastic. Mine don't touch that screw.

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You are implying that all games have cracking at the sling posts and that isn't the case.

I have lexan ones- I assume that'll do the job the same. Cool!

You could always add two washers if it needs to be raised more rather then add mylar to the plastic.

Mine has no cracking, or any other issue, came from latest run.

That's what I was talking about, I have two lexan washer circles instead of the metal ones. Same concept, but clear instead of metal.

So which screw are we trying to avoid the sling plastic touching? I'm still hazy on this...

The one with the screw head, closest to the inlane.

Actually they appear to be in stock...
http://store.jerseyjackpinball.com/Parts/Pirates-of-the-Caribbean-Parts/Pirates-of-the-Caribbean-Playfield.html

Not CE's though...

Oh, Collectors Edition...my bad

It's cool.

Actually not up on Pirates enough to know that the LE and CE use different playfields.

You could use either, it's just that only CE buyers were able to buy CE playfields.

LOL go figure in one day the thread goes from 75 contributors to 84 more issues or more defenders?

He said no such thing but even a %5 rate would be a huge issue

I'm still waiting to read a useful post from you.

He's not even a fun or clever troll.

Keep trying though!

Installed black double notched star posts on the rubber washers. The regular star posts experienced a slipped hammer after only three games so I was like- umm, no. ZaphX mode- engage.

Had the option to keep the original posts with the JJP polycarbonate washers but they were so tiny they not cover the swelled clear. They are basically exactly the same size as the post.
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If your trying for clever you really do need to keep trying lol

It's you're. (not "your")

How's that for clever...

My LE had small clear plastic washers under the skinny stock slingshot posts. The washers have the same size as the skinny posts. The result is some minor swelling of the clear and no chipping or cracking sofar. To me the swelling is a new phenomenon but nothing to worry about. It seems like this is it, since I played nearly +350 4 ball games.
Must say I lowered the force of the ss coils quite a bit just after 10 games and the flippers too since I experienced a ball under the ss plastic and the Balls were lightning fast between the slingshots. Just too fast for my taste.
I also lowered the popbumpers to their almost lowest level (19). This still provides Enough popbumper action for my taste.
Flippers 22, ss coils almost at lowest level (19?).
Do I expect chipping or cracking of the clear near the ss posts in the near future? No. In case it does appear I switch to starposts and adjust the ss switches. I agree that the starposts look better. At least the bottom one should be a starpost, just like on TZ.
Quess I was lucky, since these extra clear washers were instapped from factory. Just below the ss plastic was also installed another washer to protect the plastic from scrathing.

Not trying for clever, just trying to swat an incessant gnat.

Lol, I'll probably keep the rest factory. At least for now. I like mods to a degree, but usually only to the degree the original designer would take things.

Will order double posts. Was hoping for a more elegant solution. I personally think double posts are pretty ugly in such a prominent position where only the bottom rung has a sling. I hope this resolved the sling issues, getting a bit tired of ordering and buying all these bits, thinking it will resolve but never sure. I am still getting air balls from the slings, and did get escaped sling from original posts. Maybe I need to swap to my spare titans. Really enjoy the game, but a bit disenchanted by Jersey Jack’s lack of response to my email. I also reported a broken opto to them a week ago. No response. I will contact them again.

Oops - wrong thread