Pecos...this was mine. Sold last night. Thanks for throwing it up on here.

Zacaj...thanks for posting the Spidey. LOL. Wanted to give thanks where it was due, especially now that Pecos granted you charter member status. Hahaha

Agreed. I would snatch that up in 10 minutes if I were closer to Florida.

I just emailed him and offered something. I'll get back with his response.

It looks like he didn't hold onto it for too long....apparently just long enough to rip it apart and then try to sell it without reassembling it first. What an ass. Probably a flipper that has no idea what he is doing with pins...hence his offer to trade for an arcade now. Who knows how many parts he "lost" disassembling and de-populating the PF.

I wouldn't agree. I don't think 50 people are calling these sellers about any game listed on here, specifically not Pinsiders who know what games are actually worth. If one or two people call or contact them to bust their chops, I'm sure the seller doesn't automatically think they have a high demand item.

In all reality, most people who sell games on CL aren't Pinside members or hobbyists also...they are people with one game that they probably bought cheap. Then at some point they think they have something worth $10k because they saw some moron selling the game for that much on eBay. There are certainly exceptions, but I think most Pinsiders who list games on CL occasionally (such as myself) list their games for reasonable prices, and they aren't (for the most part) the subject matter of this thread. If anybody on here reading these posts are calling people selling these games in volume at these prices, at some point they should seriously consider buying a Mr. Pinball price guide or hitting pinballprice.com.

Sorry, my last post was more for the funny thread on ridiculous prices on CL, eBay, etc....

For this thread, I appreciate these getting posted. I have seen a few instances where the seller either upped the price or removed it and then relisted it for more after getting contact, but I really don't think it's been all that much. For the most part, it seems like this thread helps us find great deals we may have otherwise missed...without any jacking of prices or problems from the original seller before Pecos or someone else reposts it. Just my opinion.

That tells us nothing. Most people that have full mailboxes are people that owe money, and they leave their mailboxes full so debt collectors can't get through. And if it is that good of a deal when the original seller lists it, enough of us pay plenty of attention to CL, eBay and other places that we would find it eventually anyway (assuming it is still there when we do actually come across it). I too have been in this hobby for quite a while, but haven't been on Pinside that long. That didn't prevent me from getting several games at excellent prices over the years.

If it was a Fathom or TZ for $300, then I think the guy would get bombarded with calls. If you're pissed off because you missed out on a game that was a good deal, so be it. All of us have missed out on a game that was a good deal at some time or another. If you miss out on 10 games purely as a result of this thread...by all means let us or Pecos know.

I couldn't find this when I looked!!! I'm sure it went quick at that price. Probably just because it was posted on this damn thread...just kidding Pecos!! haha.

Are you serious? Too funny. Some people are too much...good luck with him selling it that way. You know what I love? A person who is selling a pin with no idea what they are doing or true reasonable value, and gives attitude or "stipulations" to people like us...actual hobbyists who know more about the game than them. If I had a nickel...

Good thing some of these people don't sell things for a living...or at least hopefully they don't.

PF is colorful on that one...kind of like Fan-Tas-Tic. Actually looks like a pretty fun game with 5 pops...no pun intended.

I would definitely grab this if it were closer! Old CC games are not my thing necessarily, but this game looks cool as hell.

Neighboring state my ass...LOL. This isn't the Griswolds!! 14 hours for a seriously beat up, non-working SI with no backglass? All joking aside, if the game were within 3 hours of me, I would go grab it just to save it (and to have a SI in the line up to toy with). As ForceFlow said, this game would have been gone in a heartbeat over this way...wouldn't of even lasted this long. I, and 20 other people in my area, would have been in a race to go get it.

If this guy really destroys the game if no one grabs it, he is truly an ass. He could always just...I don't know...lower the price? He would rather trash it and get nothing?

If I were going to pick this game up, I would definitely bring some type of weapon for self protection.

Jesus......that thing is humming!!! What type of coils did you throw in the pops, industrial grade? LOL. Very nice game. I wish I was closer to grab the one listed, it does look fun. Or is Texas a neighboring state also with only a short road trip?

And BTW, go save that SI from the psycho!!! You're way closer than I am!!

This one looks like somebody dumped dirt and rat excrement under the glass on the PF. Very beat up, and obviously needs some love. I'm actually debating...I love the BG on this thing...a shame it looks flaked.

Son of a bitch!!! So you read my PM one too many times after I sent it and you couldn't resist? If I was closer, I definitely would have grabbed that. Super glad that it worked out...great find. How's the PF on it now that you have it to stare at in person?

Outside or not, I would've bought every single one of them if they were any closer. Those prices were ridiculous, for the most part.

Yeah...great restoration piece. Not after it's been in a fire. What a shame.

That actually is pretty cool.........if I were closer, I'd snatch that right up just to get it running and throw a couple games on it.

Pecos,

As Ryan said, thanks a lot for constantly posting games, keeping this thread updated and all the input and comments. I definitely jump on here as often as possible....never know what you'll come across!! Keep up the good work.

And thanks for posting the Williams Winner on here that I recently listed on CL...LOL. I've tried to stay away from CL for selling games, but wanted to move this one quickly if possible.

Definitely. Had one of these before, and didn't want to sell it when I did but had no space. A fun and colorful game..attractive. Would definitely grab another one if I came across it more locally. As for the middle pop, I still have a Magic City in the line up, so covered!

Not a bad game...I would probably grab it if it didn't have that irritating background noise.

I've actually considered grabbing this, but a shame the cabinet is painted over.

Damn it!! If I were up for a long (very long) road trip I would be grabbing all 3 of these.

Ryan, Just scrolled back and saw this now...I was LMFAO for five minutes straight. I'm such a pin whore. Like Forceflow said in other threads, it is just so damn hard to pass up a good deal on a game when you see it. I am now officially out of control.

This game was posted on here a page or two ago...saved it from certain death this morning. If the guy didn't sell it by the end of the weekend, he was going to sell it to another guy that wanted to part it out. BG has some minor flaking, but the PF is more than decent and all of the mechs and brackets underneath the PF look like they're brand new. Shiny. Another one saved from the graveyard.

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Finally!!! LOL. Thanks Pecos, and thanks for keeping this thread going and updated. All of your hard research and time is appreciated!

Believe it or not, I've cleared out a few so only 4 actual project games sitting in my abode at this point. A few of my games still need some work, but they're playing. I really need to clamp down and fix what I have and get all the main games 100%. It's just so hard to stop looking....you always feel like you're going to miss out on something that's a great deal. Somehow I still end up buying games for regular prices on top of all the projects I look at. This hobby really is an illness....hence the name of my recent start up...Pinball Malady.

And glad that Pecos also awarded charter membership status to you!!! I feel like I need to attend a meeting and get a sponsor --- "Hi. My name is Colson, and I have a pinball problem." LOL.

And I have to jump off the Jubilee...by many accounts, opinions and polls in the past - deemed to be the worst pinball game of all time. I played one once, and that was all I needed even trying to be objective. The outlanes are horrendous on that game.

Nothing online yet...I'll probably throw something up on here in the next week or so. I've been doing keychains, some mods and a few other things, and thought I'd come up with a name and TM it before doing anything more formally.

As for your jubilant Jubilee, you have to admit the outlanes on that thing are drain monsters! And targets-a-plenty via two pops and the ball loop in the center of the PF? Not much to shoot for other than to roll over artwork. LOL. Just busting chops

Hahahahaha.

No, this guy looks sad. Cheer up Ryan!!

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And I wish I could've grabbed that BTTF. Even for a grand...c'mon!!!! Maybe I need to relocate to the Michigan area. Seems to be a ton of pins out there.

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Wow...that bad out there? I always see a ton of great games listed in Michigan. Unfortunately there's a lot of overpriced games everywhere these days.

Ryan, How about you agree to store a few games for me that I acquire from the Michigan area? You have space if you leave them upright with the heads strapped, right? Once I get to 10 games, I'll rent a U-Haul and make the trip out. Then we can discuss our illness and perhaps get admitted to the nearest pinball rehab together?

I'll offer the same for you...LOL.

Agreed. That is a big gamble without seeing at least 20 hi-res photos of the game first. If the PF is truly nice, and the cabinet isn't bad, I would definitely grab that if it were closer. Right Ryan? LOL

It looks like there is some wear around the spinners on the PF, but hard to tell from the two crappiest photos he posted. If the game isn't that nice and you pay $1100+, your wallet could be in a whirlwind.

Just threw my Magic City up on CL for $300, if anybody is interested.

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"Semi project, needs a little work. Clearing out a few games that I haven't had time to get to. It runs and gets stuck in reset, so it probably just needs some switches adjusted or cleaned.

PF needs a little love, BG is very good with some very minimal flaking. Cabinet is good and solid, but with dings and scrapes, I had planned on possibly restenciling just to make it perfect. Custom keychain included."

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Sounds like a new T-shirt slogan. LOL.

Thanks. I had quite a few responses and a few people interested...but nobody was getting back to me. Typical CL people that send multiple emails or texts...then stop responding and disappear for no rhyme or reason. Nico, I saw your PM about it, but wasn't sure if you were really serious being in Texas. Just looked and thought I had responded, but I didn't see it in the thread. My Pinside mail has been acting all funky the last two days, as was it for several local Pinsiders I keep in touch with. I think Robin's servers are starting to get overwhelmed again.

Back to MC, got a call this morning from a guy in NYC, so I think it might be sold as of now...pending for pick up this Saturday. I thought listing at $300 this thing would have went in a heartbeat (or at least in a day or two).

And this is really catching on LOL. Ryan is the graphic artist...let's come up with some T-shirts. hahaha

Hahaha...I suppose not much. MC wouldn't even be leaving if I didn't bring home two games last week, and a BSD this past weekend. Something had to be the sacrificial lamb! If this buyer doesn't follow through, I'll let you know.

And by the way Nico, I want your Snow Derby. Been looking for that game for a while.

I'm not a purist...LOL. That thing is looking fantastic. Whenever you're ready to sell or trade let me know.

Sorry, I think I was abducted for two days by my CE3K I've been rebuilding. Should have started a thread for that. Ryan...c'mon dude, I'm in for at least two shirts. I want some laughable, satirical picture to be on the shirt also!!! (if you're not too busy with the "legitimate companies" LOL

I emailed ten minutes after it was listed, and it was already snatched up. Son of a bitch! On my wishlist for a while too.

We would have to ask Robin...maybe he'd be up for it for the free advertising?

"I'd buy that...if it was closer."

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I didn't even know they made a home version of this game. It's a shame, because this thing actually looks pretty clean.

ebay.com link: NO RESERVE EVEL KINEVEL PINBALL MACHINE RARE HOME MODEL PROJECT NICE BACK GLASS

Right?!! It's ridiculous...to the point where it seems a lot of folks now are listing games at $100 or $200, and then just seeing how high it will climb with offers. A waste of time for the first few people that rush to contact them or those of us always on the lookout (cough...Ryan...LOL). Guilty myself as well

People aren't bothering to stick with a "great deal price", or even really trying to choose a decent price for hobbyists. It's the market boys and girls...it jumps up and down, and right now it seems to be on an upswing again, unfortunately. When you see two Williams Flash pins sell for $800+ in good condition, that's definitely a sign of pinflation.

But as everyone says, not trying to taint this thread with negativity. Sorry Pecos. Just missed out on two games this week listed for a good price, then the seller asked if I could do better than another offer they had received (after I was already scheduled to come look at and probably buy the game). Lost out on both games.

There's always tomorrow....or I can just get all the pins I have working 100% finally. LOL

There's been a ton of wedgeheads popping up on here...a shame I've been getting killed at work and haven't had a chance to really look through here in the last two weeks or so. Come on Ryan....you know you missed me. Hahaha.

And it is a shame on this one neither of us is closer. For $400, I'd grab it, especially for the re-theme. A buddy of mine actually re-themed a Flash, and because that game is so wide open in design he said it was no problem. Having the new backglass and PF made took more time than recoding and revamping the machine altogether. You really wouldn't want to keep that awesome Flash backglass artwork?

I've never seen that before either. Interesting title, but what horrible artwork. What the hell were they thinking? That BG is just plain ugly...and yet I'd probably still buy one if I came across it just because of the rarity.

Just taking a guess....but this game may have gotten wet at some point.

And by may have, I mean thrown in a pond upside down for a month.

^^^^ And one sold in Philly about two months ago for $250 or so. I tried to grab it but missed out.

It was about 25 miles from me...so if that's not close enough, I'm in the wrong hobby. Hahaha. The guy said "I have someone coming to look at it today, but I'll get back to you." Ad was removed and he never did, so I assumed it was gone. Of all places, it was in the lobby of a used car dealership. Go figure.

And the avatar needed updating...good to be back!

The prodigal son has returned. LOL. Haven't had much time to catch up on the 900 posts I missed in this thread until now. Sadly, missed out on quite a few games I might have grabbed.

I am going to start a thread shortly on the Mystic. Been tied up with other "things" and had thrown the Mystic out there for possible sale, but changed my mind and decided to keep and restore it. Scott (iron00monkey) who got the Centaur, and ripped through it with light speed, said he has a Mystic PF that he could hook me up with, given the amount of wear on mine. Just have to get it. I'll keep you updated.

Grabbed a Bobby Orr Power Play a week or two ago. Might be listing it and thought I would throw it up here first to see if any interest. Willing to pass on the deal I got to another Pinsider without any inflation if they want it, just need to free up space and funds. $300

It was sitting in a barn for a few years, and needs some heavy cleaning and work. I haven't set it up yet or tested it. It does have an Alltek MPU, which I'll leave in it. BG has some flaking, but it's not horrible. PF is very nice, had some previous touch ups, but done pretty well and mylar placed after. Cab has some dings and scrapes, but overall pretty damn nice considering where it sat for a few years. If interested, let me know. If not, I'm sure I'll have time to get to this one in the next couple months.

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Jesus....why can't this thing be closer!!! I would buy a Cybernaut in a heartbeat, especially at that price. If he were local, I'd be grabbing all three of these today for only $1200.

Yeah, $800+ for a project Flash?????? And the ad says "I thought I'd offer it at a discounted price" before he finishes tinkering with it. I've had two really nice Flashes that I sold for $800 or less in great condition and fully working. I wonder if he knows they made 500,000 of these.

Hahaha...some things never change.

And for that wonderful price....rabid acquisition phase or not, you should have grabbed them. Then you could have shipped the Cybernaut to me!!!

I texted him and asked him to send me a few pics, and a price.

Hey!!!!! I'm trying to control my acquisition phase over here.

Somebody should buy this and retheme it based on the "hit" TV show. LOL.

Definitely. Great job Pecos. Always finds good deals, and absolutely the most updated thread. CaptiveBall contributes a ton, and also deserves a round.

Unfortunately I don't visit here as much as I used to... just to keep my sanity (and not end up with 100 pins). Keep it going!

Or is it.....? Who doesn't want a game called Orgie? (although misspelled).

Ad was flagged for removal...I'm guessing scam, or someone flagged it so they could grab all the games themselves? I've heard of people doing that before.

Good to know...but what a shame. He has some good titles listed on there.

Threw these up in the FS threads, but forgot to post here if anybody was interested. A few projects that I don't have time to get to, and trying to make room.

Big Ben $250 - BG perfect. PF dirty, needs cleaning. Some inserts have to be reset. Missing some coin door parts, but was told it's wired to work. I haven't tested it or set up yet since bringing it home.

Olympics $200 - Was stored in a garage and untouched for several years. PF has some paint chipping, but can be saved. Reimport with plexi backglass. Game actually plays, but needs a good amount of work.

I would do $425 if somebody wanted both. Would rather see them flipping and back in circulation.

Actually, if another Pinsider wants these, I'd be happy to hook you up with both for $375.

PM sent

Awesome grab for a Benny.

My pleasure to contribute Pecos! "Colson5" is my gift-giving alter ego, and always happy to help out! (just kidding Ryan)

You deserve it Pecos, you contribute a ton on here, and have saved several games from pending doom. If my circumstances weren't what they are right now, I certainly would have contributed even more. Enjoy the glass and the holidays, and glad that we could bring you some pinball joy.

I saw that one before...I love the "might be blown fuse", but yet he didn't try to replace it and left the game just sitting not functional for how long? Not a game I'm really interested in, but would probably grab it if not for the flaking on the BG, and the PF has some wear and looks like it may have some pretty significant planking. If it worked with those aesthetic issues...that would make a difference. Maybe some chap will grab it to revive it.

ZNET......do you have a Charlie's Angels glass laying around?

Well I'm back!! I'm returning to all the happy threads. Plus I'm almost done the Vamp and ready to start the next project.

I picked this project up a few months ago, and I'm debating whether to tackle it or pass it on. Definitely not a game you see often at all. Nice PF layout, and very cool backglass.

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Not sure yet, going back-and-forth. I didn't pay much for it though, so it wouldn't be a lot. It was in a condemned house and is in pretty rough shape, needs quite a bit of work. But the PF and BG are really nice, considering where the game was and how it had been neglected (last pic). Such a cool and rare game I had to rescue her.

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What a shame they are in that condition. Had a mint Hokus Pokus a few years ago, and should've never sold it. Awesome game. Time zone is awesome too, but likewise doesn't look in great shape. Both BG's are shot.

I'll tell you what though, I'm assuming he would be pretty reasonable on price in that condition, so if I were closer I would grab all three.

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Good to know. I've only had the luxury of playing at someone else's house, and only a few games.

Yes, the one I played a few years ago wasn't in great shape and the flippers were kind of weak, so it wasn't too exciting. When I picked up the Time Zone for Grizlyrig , I played a little bit and that game was pretty fine-tuned, really nice condition and seemed to play well. Admittedly, I didn't play enough to dive into the rule set. Probably would have if I just kept the game and didn't deliver to him up at Pintastic

I've never seen one of those before. That game is awesome....I definitely wish I was, well you know.

And I think we all wish we were closer on that one....if not just for the backglass alone. Great price.

Nice...I'm trying to work something out with him now.

Just talked to him. The playfields were sold a few minutes ago.

It did. Once I enlarged them, I asked him or hodge whether they would ship them. I know a ton of people with big game pins that have destroyed or significant wear on their playfields. Well, at least someone got them and they didn't end up in the trash.

Man, what the hell is going on with people? Striking out bad on these games. Second time this week.

Was supposed to go grab this Hokus Pokus from the guy this weekend, had made arrangements already, texting him and talking on the phone earlier this week. The deal was done. I even asked him if he wanted a deposit. He said no.

So I texted him this morning to work out a time due to the snow, most likely for tomorrow, and his reply was "sold it already." WTF.

I would take another one of those for 400, if not for the distance. Do I need to say it? LOL.

Some people don't like the game, but it has cool audio, and non-pinball people that have come over when I had them tend to like playing it because it has a simple rule set and multi-ball.

I said before, I'll take one. Haha. What I actually need is a helicopter that can fit at least three pins, and some flying lessons.

Weird. Looks to me like it's a Williams Triple Action, but that playfield with the "bottle design" around the inserts in front of the flippers doesn't match the US or Spanish version. See below. The game did come with two different colored painted cabinets.

The coin door is Williams, not the Sonic/Segasa coin door, and the cabinet may have been painted over. It looks like the Sonic and Williams versions have similar playfields, and the one in this guys game is neither. Has me a little stumped.

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That's Rascal_H 's game. He has it listed on here too. He's a good guy, and he did a great job restoring the cabinet.

LOL My sister and her fam live in Castaic, CA, and they said they would be willing to grab local games for me and store them until I could arrange for shipping if it ever became necessary. So at least I have part of California covered. Some great deals coming up lately all around.

So am I, could be a freaking gold mine.

Haha. Certainly not during rush hour. Come on man, a simple drive down the 5 or the 405 and there are tons of games!! Every year I fly out I meet up with a different Pinsider to chill and check out their collection. This year, a very cool Pinsider with 20 games was only two sections away.

This is most certainly a "wish I was closer" moment....I've only seen one of those before. That backglass is AWESOME!! I would love that to be my next total resto....cab can be redone. Although the names chiseled into the side do give it character.

Mr. Pinball Guide has it at 700, and that's for an example in "good" condition. Games are always worth what someone is willing to pay for them. A rare game like this, in very good condition, I would say probably 1000 to 1100. But this cabinet isn't in great shape. Totally restored, probably 1500 to 1600.

For a while I was trying to obtain more rare games, but Vampire is pretty much the only one I have at the moment. Well, and Space Ship for now.

If the BG and PF is nice on this, I would love to get it for a full restore. I emailed the guy, but still didn't hear back yet. His price is a little high, so if he's willing to come down to a reasonable price, I know someone that lives in the Miami area that will probably ship it for me.

Definitely wish I was closer on that one...that's a great price for an Embryon that could be restored.