I'd buy that! ...if it was closer! (That was for colsond3. )

This game is actually really close to my dad. Not that he's gonna jump on it or anything, but it got me thinking...are parts generally available for overseas manufacturers, like Sonic/Segasa? For example, do they use standard coils and mechs that could be ordered from PBR? Or would it be nearly impossible to refurb something from a foriegn manufacturer like this due to parts being unavailable? I don't have a ton of EM restoration experience (only knowledge thus far is on a Williams EM, but it was a complete tear-down), so I'd be curious if one of our fellow projecteers on this thread could educate me.

Thanks all!

They use Williams components. You'd be right at home working on one.

Sonic/Segasa is a Williams clone and pretty much anything inside can be replaced by Williams bits. Gotta love those armor plated playfields too. Zaccaria EM innards look like Williams stuff as well. These aren't terribly difficult to keep working.

I have a Recel Top Speed - some of the pieces look like Gottlieb machinery and others look like they went their own way. Some creativity may be needed by whomever gets to rebuild the flippers on that one.

PBR has some off-brand coils listed and weird foreign stuff shows up on flebay every once in a while.

Parts can be modified - grind 1/8" off a Bally plunger to make it fit someplace they never intended. Parts can be substituted - everybody's pop bumpers get rebuilt with Gottlieb bits nowadays.

Some games are indeed more difficult to refurb due to unobtanium parts. Here's a nice example - some drop target links for DynO'Mite that I whittled out of a hunk of plastic.

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oops... Allied Leisure wasn't an overseas manufacturer.

Cheers.

Good to know. Thanks, AlexF.

Wow. Killer example. Love the ingenuity! Great work, balzofsteel, and thanks for the thorough response!

Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Paragon / SS 4 Player
Month/Year: December 1978
Production: 9,120
Cost: $800
Location: Northwest OKC, OK
Link/Contact:oklahomacity.craigslist.org link

OP:Playfield has been cleaned and rerubbered. It is warn down to the wood around some of the center inserts. Backglass is in good condition. Cabinet is not to bad. Game doesn't power up. MPU has battery damage. Flippers will most likely need rebuilding. Missing upper left flipper bat and small upper playfield plastic by right saucer. Game is being sold as a project. $800 OBO. Call if interested.

From Mr. P this morning:

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Quick Draw, 1975 Gottlieb: $425
This machine is a project. The cabinet is very nice . The playfield is dirty but will clean up. The backgass and plastics need to be replaced. The game works. I am open to trades for EM arcade games.
Adam
[email protected], Brick, New Jersey 08723
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More good info to have. Thanks, davideokills.

From Mr. P this morning:
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Dragon (EM version), 1978 Gottlieb: 800
Project machine, cabinet is rough water damage. playfield, backglass and head in good shape. Consider trades for similar era Bally/Williams.
Marc - [email protected]
San Diego, California
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Just threw my Magic City up on CL for $300, if anybody is interested.

philadelphia.craigslist.org link

"Semi project, needs a little work. Clearing out a few games that I haven't had time to get to. It runs and gets stuck in reset, so it probably just needs some switches adjusted or cleaned.

PF needs a little love, BG is very good with some very minimal flaking. Cabinet is good and solid, but with dings and scrapes, I had planned on possibly restenciling just to make it perfect. Custom keychain included."

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Looks like there's an extra ball in there. That might explain some odd behavior.

I have the machine about 19 years and it lives in the playroom. Not terribly deep but still fun.

Sounds like a new T-shirt slogan. LOL.

I'd buy that if it was the right size!

How has this not sold yet?!? Great art & middle-pop games are cool. Of the ones with 2" flippers, this is my favorite.

"I'd buy that!...if was closer."
If you are planning on coming to the Ohio Show at the end of the month I'll get the game off you Colson.

Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Bon Voyage / EM 1P
Year: April 1974
Production: 1,585
Cost: $150
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Link/Contact: hudsonvalley.craigslist.org link

Condition: none given. Looks like it lights up, and most of the paint is still there...

Thanks. I had quite a few responses and a few people interested...but nobody was getting back to me. Typical CL people that send multiple emails or texts...then stop responding and disappear for no rhyme or reason. Nico, I saw your PM about it, but wasn't sure if you were really serious being in Texas. Just looked and thought I had responded, but I didn't see it in the thread. My Pinside mail has been acting all funky the last two days, as was it for several local Pinsiders I keep in touch with. I think Robin's servers are starting to get overwhelmed again.

Back to MC, got a call this morning from a guy in NYC, so I think it might be sold as of now...pending for pick up this Saturday. I thought listing at $300 this thing would have went in a heartbeat (or at least in a day or two).

And this is really catching on LOL. Ryan is the graphic artist...let's come up with some T-shirts. hahaha

No worries. Was going to have it shipped but with TPF this week and lots of projects pending, it's probably better that I don't. Eventually I'll have a Magic City. Now just isn't the right time.

I've shipped a number of $300-ish games to Texas from various states. Doesn't matter that the shipping doubles the price because I'm gearing up for a barcade concept and all EM's will be fully rebuilt, bulletproofed, and taken to mint condition for long-term duty there.

In other words... what's another $350 on a game getting a repaint, clear coat, full rebuild, stealth LED's, new parts, score monitors, master credit controller, card swiper, etc, etc? :p

Hahaha...I suppose not much. MC wouldn't even be leaving if I didn't bring home two games last week, and a BSD this past weekend. Something had to be the sacrificial lamb! If this buyer doesn't follow through, I'll let you know.

And by the way Nico, I want your Snow Derby. Been looking for that game for a while.

Yeah, it's a good one, but I've cleared the PF and made a change to the cabinet colors w/white webbing so it's no longer "original". Which, in my opinion, is a good thing. Not all of the default Gottlieb stencils and color choices were so hot. The original Snow Derby color scheme was an odd yellow-white-magenta. Sort of a "tequila sunrise". Not very snowy if you ask me.

Note: That's Pinsider Nickattac in the photo... he's awesome with graphic design/printwork and we've completed a number of pinball projects together. Snow Derby will be on the floor at TPF this weekend.

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Huh! That color scheme makes it look like a Williams instead of a Gottlieb. (and yes I know, there were a few non-white cabinet games made over the years).

I'm not a purist...LOL. That thing is looking fantastic. Whenever you're ready to sell or trade let me know.

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I am sure it will look and play fantastic! Its just how some color schemes tend to look like certain manufacturers choices.

I hear ya. For most games in need of a repaint I'll stick with the factory defaults. But they had their off days too.

Paradise is one of the biggest offenders IMHO. The default cabinet scheme looks like an outer space bingo card or something. Mine is getting totally new Polynesian stencils w/lei's and tiki gods. 60's era of course... as how I imagine Gottlieb would have done it.

Bally Grand Tour is another one which irks. Stupid simplistic artwork on the side for what is such a graphically fabulous looking game. It's going to get some sort of 60's city/travel/eiffel tower motif. Something appropriate for the era.

Not really an EM guy, but this one looks like it deserves a closer look, so I reached out to them. After all, I must continue to strive for Charter Member Status from the Grand Pooh bah!

Bon Voyage is a good game....played it a lot as a kid.

He's about an hour and a half from me. It's a bit of a drive for "I hope it's as good as it looks"! Also mentioned there was a lot of interest. I guess I'll pass.

Ha-ha!

I love this thread.

If I wasn't so gosh-darned busy making shirts for legitimate companies, I just might.

Just out of curiosity, who might actually buy a shirt a silly shirt like that if I made one. (I'd kinda like to wear one, myself!) If there's more than a dozen or so "in's", who knows, maybe I'd try to figure something out during the next pointless meeting I'm obligated to attend.

Neat! I'd buy tha...aw, nevermind.

GLWS, Colsond3! Sounds like you won't need it.

Just looked up the original. I was wondering about your cabinet graphics until I realized that you kept the original graphics, just changed the colors. Nice nod to the original. I like the "cool" new color scheme. Thanks for sharing. Do you have a place where you've listed the rest of your cabinet repaints? I'd love to see 'em.

Ha-ha! I dunno if I'd get outerspace bingo card from this...

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...but theme-specific, it is not. I'll grant you that. When can we expect the tiki cabinet re-theme?

I've thought very similar things about my Gottlieb "Paul Bunyan" cab:

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Mine's actually been painted over (solid beige), but if I ever repaint it...it won't be stock. Ha-ha! That original cab "art" pales in comparison to the killer Art Stenholm genius happening on the glass, plastics, and pf.

BTW...

...gorgeous game, but hard to tell from the IPDB pics...are those 4 gobble-holes in the middle of the PF?

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My brother. Ha-ha!

Oh. Em. Jee. This is choice. Looks like they're not full of bull-oney, either. PROOF:

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Let's see...for $2500-3k. Would I rather have a B-list DMD or a second-hand moo-cow.

Also of note:

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...aaand that's jumped up a little...

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...still with 4.5 days to go! I guessing this just moved out of most of our project-status budgets.

Bets on where this one ends? I'll say $1500.

I think what you mean is...

C'mon. Who's in for a shirt?

Kickout holes. If you put the ball in the left hole it's supposed to kick it across a hole at a time then the last hole sends it back at you. Kings&Queens does the same thing.