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#7101 1 year ago

For your amusement and entertainment! It's a Project Pin!

"Evel Knievels personal Pinball"

Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Evel Knievel / SS MPU AS-2518-17, 4 Player
Month/Year: July 1976
Production: 14,000
Cost: $1500
Location: Riverview (Tampa), FL
Contact/Link: tampa.craigslist.org link

Condition: Playfield has been stripped down. OP: "Evel Knievels personal pinball machine, Evel Knievel edition. This was his personal machine given to himself by Bally. Comes with a letter from his wife. Needs restoration but complete."

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#7102 1 year ago
Quoted from ThatOneDude:

Looks like an EM version of Hot Tip:

It is a 1962 Williams Mardi Gras with a repainted playfield.

#7103 1 year ago
Quoted from Pecos:

For your amusement and entertainment! It's a Project Pin!
"Evel Knievels personal Pinball"
Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Evel Knievel / SS MPU AS-2518-17, 4 Player
Month/Year: July 1976
Production: 14,000
Cost: $1500
Location: Riverview (Tampa), FL
Contact/Link: tampa.craigslist.org link
Condition: Playfield has been stripped down. OP: "Evel Knievels personal pinball machine, Evel Knievel edition. This was his personal machine given to himself by Bally. Comes with a letter from his wife. Needs restoration but complete."

Same seller has this listed. A collector or ???

Manufacturer: Game Plan
Game/Type: Agents 777 / SS MPU-2, 4 Player
Month/Year: November 1984
Production: 400 (!)
Cost: $700
Location: Riverview (Tampa), FL
Contact/Link: tampa.craigslist.org link

Condition: Not a Project Pin? "...all electronic pinball machine in great condition, play field and lights all refurbished and shopped."

#7104 1 year ago
Quoted from vec-tor:

It is a 1962 Williams Mardi Gras with a repainted playfield.

Cool. My googling apparently completely failed me.

#7105 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

I was trying to buy this and I was picked up today.

What were you picked up for?

#7106 1 year ago
Quoted from Pecos:

For your amusement and entertainment! It's a Project Pin!
"Evel Knievels personal Pinball"
Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Evel Knievel / SS MPU AS-2518-17, 4 Player
Month/Year: July 1976
Production: 14,000
Cost: $1500
Location: Riverview (Tampa), FL
Contact/Link: tampa.craigslist.org link
Condition: Playfield has been stripped down. OP: "Evel Knievels personal pinball machine, Evel Knievel edition. This was his personal machine given to himself by Bally. Comes with a letter from his wife. Needs restoration but complete."

I never understood this pin. They based a pin after an American stunt man who jumped his motorcycle over canyons, cars, etc. on national tv yet this game has no ramps.

#7107 1 year ago

Evel was ahead of the times. By 1977 he had already flamed out and it would be another 3 years before Kmiec put the ramp and tube shot on Xenon.
$ 1,500 for EK's personal machine seems like a steal of a deal.

#7108 1 year ago
Quoted from Pecos:

For your amusement and entertainment! It's a Project Pin!
"Evel Knievels personal Pinball"
Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Evel Knievel / SS MPU AS-2518-17, 4 Player
Month/Year: July 1976
Production: 14,000
Cost: $1500
Location: Riverview (Tampa), FL
Contact/Link: tampa.craigslist.org link
Condition: Playfield has been stripped down. OP: "Evel Knievels personal pinball machine, Evel Knievel edition. This was his personal machine given to himself by Bally. Comes with a letter from his wife. Needs restoration but complete."

You think Bally would have given him one of the more valuable EM version?

#7109 1 year ago

Chicago Coin
Game/Type: Pirate Gold / Electro-mechanical (EM) 1 Player
Month/Year: January 1969
Production: N/A
Cost: $300 obo
Location: Hampshire, IL 60140
Pinsider: p1001
Link/Contact: https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/57318

#7110 1 year ago
Quoted from Madmax541:

Bank Shot project pin
It will clean up nice when done.
Missing lockdown bar and head rear door
BG is very good only little flaking
$250
Located in New Hampshire

with Pinside link:
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/57290

#7111 1 year ago
Quoted from Pecos:

For your amusement and entertainment! It's a Project Pin!
"Evel Knievels personal Pinball"
Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Evel Knievel / SS MPU AS-2518-17, 4 Player
Month/Year: July 1976
Production: 14,000
Cost: $1500
Location: Riverview (Tampa), FL
Contact/Link: tampa.craigslist.org link
Condition: Playfield has been stripped down. OP: "Evel Knievels personal pinball machine, Evel Knievel edition. This was his personal machine given to himself by Bally. Comes with a letter from his wife. Needs restoration but complete."

Saw this pic on the Evil Knievel Museum website would make me question the ad why wouldnt they put the original in the museum.

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#7113 1 year ago
Quoted from cyroute:

Saw this pic on the Evil Knievel Museum website would make me question the ad why wouldnt they put the original in the museum.

Because the topside of the playfield is completely stripped?

#7114 1 year ago
Quoted from Ballypin:

Evel was ahead of the times. By 1977 he had already flamed out and it would be another 3 years before Kmiec put the ramp and tube shot on Xenon.
$ 1,500 for EK's personal machine seems like a steal of a deal.

I agree......especially with documentation.....

EK SS was the the first pinball I purchased! Daughter and her friends love it!

#7115 1 year ago

ARCADE CLOSURE SALE - THU 12/07

Manufacturer: Sega
Game/Type: Southpark / SS
Month/Year: February 1999
Production: 3,150
Cost: ????
Location: Kendall Park (New Brunswick), NJ
Link/Contact: southjersey.craigslist.org link

OP: roller rink/ arcade/ party place w/ bouncers & snack bar will be sold at public auction thurs dec 7 th live at 1 pm in east brunswick nj area, selling 6000 skates, digital score board, pro sound dj speakers, dj booth, dj lighting, vending machines, 40 arcade games including gun games, skee ball, pinball, air hockey,driving games , cranes, prize machines & pac man games etc...some titles include: super cars 2, lets go jungle, ghost squad, fright fear arcade gun game,ms pac man, barber cut, south park pinball, la machine guns deluxe,change machines, etc....snackbar includes: ice machine: bakers pride counter top pizza ovens, , 2 head slush machine, pretzel warmer, hot dog grills, warmers etc... 2 inflatable bounce houses...also themed costumes & mascot costumes, all must sell 12/7

#7116 1 year ago

Gottlieb Bank Shot Single player EM

$200

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/57290

#7117 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

ESTATE SALE - FRI 12/01 - SAT 12/02
Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Four Million BC / EM 4 Player
Features: Zipper Flippers, Multiball
Month/Year: November 1970
Production: 3,550
Cost: ???
Location: Downers Grove, IL
Link/Contact: https://www.estatesales.net/IL/Downers-Grove/60515/1740279?highlight=Pinball+pinball

This game sold today. I was messaging the estate sale company on this. Owner sold it to a family member for $600-powered up but wouldn't start a game...

Darn- was going to look at it tomorrow.....

#7118 1 year ago

Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Captain Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy / EM 4 Player
Month/Year: September 1975
Production: 16,155
Cost: Current Bid: $393.88 Ends December 3rd 9:10 PM MT
Location: Bohemia, NY
Contact/Link: ebay.com link » Original 1977 Elton John Captain Fantastic Pinball Machine

Condition: "The machine is not working, otherwise it’s about EX. The back glass paint is original and almost perfect. Legs come with the item but the hardware is stripped."

#7119 1 year ago

Manufacturer: Gottlieb
Game/Type: Panthera / SS Widebody
Year: June 1980
Production: 5,220
Cost: Buy It Now: $350 obo
Location: Carrollton, Texas
Link/Contact: ebay.com link » Golieb Panthera Pinball Machine Nonworking

OP: Nonworking-needs a new board. Otherwise in great condition.

#7120 1 year ago

~~~~~Mr. Pinball Classifieds~~~~~

Manufacturer: Williams
Game/Type: Space Mission / EM 4 Player
Month/Year: January 1976
Production: 11,652
Cost: $350
Location: Canandaigua NY, New York, near Rochester NY

OP: Nice condition 4 player machine is fully complete non-working. Needs minor repair. Please come inspect the unit first hand

#7121 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

ESTATE SALE - FRI 12/01 - Sun 12/03

*Seller also has a Jr PacMan arcade*

Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Mousin Around / System 11B
Year: 1989
Production: 2,009
Cost: ?????
Location: Potomac, MD
Contact/Link: https://www.estatesales.net/MD/Potomac/20854/1728006?highlight=pinball

I got there around 15 minutes after opening; Mousin Around sold for $1800; they wanted $700 for the PacMan and it's monitor needs a cap job.

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC Pinball resets, the Pinball Pyramid, or for Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

#7122 1 year ago

Manufacturer: Bally
Game/Type: Black Pyramid / SS AS-2518-35, 4 Player
Month/Year: July 1984
Production: 2,500
Cost: $500 OBO
Location: Madera Ranchos (Fresno), CA
Contact/Link: fresno.craigslist.org link

Condition: "Works but needs refurbishing."

#7123 1 year ago

Manufacturer: Williams
Game/Type: Space Mission / EM 4 Player
Month/Year: January 1976
Production: 11,652
Cost: $350
Location: Sparta (Grand Rapids), MI
Contact/Link: grandrapids.craigslist.org link

Condition: No Pics! OP: "Good condition."

#7124 1 year ago

Another $1,000 coffee table pin!

Manufacturer: Williams
Game/Type: Disco Fever / SS Banana Flippers 4 Player
Month/Year: August 1978
Production: 6,006
Cost: $1,000
Location: Eugene, OR
Link/Contact: eugene.craigslist.org link

OP: Vintage pinball coffee table with a modern/industrial finish featuring the Disco Fever pinball game from 1978. See more info on game here: https://www.vintagearcade.net/shop/pinball-games/disco-fever-pinball-game/

Framed in maple and legs are stainless steel. Glass top included. Paid $2200.

Dimensions are: 44" x 22" x 17" tall

#7125 1 year ago

In the last four months I have found six project pins in different parts of the country that I was interested in buying. I posted on each occasion asking if a Pinsider in that region would be willing to pick up the pin and drop it at a Fastenal store. No one was willing to help me. This week a Pinsider posted a pin for sale in this forum. I asked if he was willing to drop the pin at a local Fastenal store after I sent Paypal funds. I provided a link to a Fastenal store locator. He responded that three local collectors were interested so he was just going to sell it to one of them.

I have posted 300+ project pins in this forum, but no one is willing to help me? I won’t be posting in this thread going forward.

#7126 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

I have posted 300+ project pins in this forum, but no one is willing to help me? I won’t be posting in this thread going forward.

Damn bluespin that fuc#$d up. If there's anything that pops up in my neck of the woods that I can help you out with let me know. I have a kia sorrento so I can't transport the pin on the palette but I can drop off at fastenal and then wrap it if they don't.

#7127 1 year ago

Maybe create a map and have people who are willing to do things like that sign up. I would love to help to the extent that I can, given that I don't have a large vehicle or the knowledge and equipment to safely crate a pin.

#7128 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

In the last four months I have found six project pins in different parts of the country that I was interested in buying. I posted on each occasion asking if a Pinsider in that region would be willing to pick up the pin and drop it at a Fastenal store. No one was willing to help me. This week a Pinsider posted a pin for sale in this forum. I asked if he was willing to drop the pin at a local Fastenal store after I sent Paypal funds. I provided a link to a Fastenal store locator. He responded that three local collectors were interested so he was just going to sell it to one of them.
I have posted 300+ project pins in this forum, but no one is willing to help me? I won’t be posting in this thread going forward.

I've got your back in central valley CA

#7129 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

In the last four months I have found six project pins in different parts of the country that I was interested in buying. I posted on each occasion asking if a Pinsider in that region would be willing to pick up the pin and drop it at a Fastenal store. No one was willing to help me. This week a Pinsider posted a pin for sale in this forum. I asked if he was willing to drop the pin at a local Fastenal store after I sent Paypal funds. I provided a link to a Fastenal store locator. He responded that three local collectors were interested so he was just going to sell it to one of them.
I have posted 300+ project pins in this forum, but no one is willing to help me? I won’t be posting in this thread going forward.

I can understand your frustration, but can also understand that sellers usually want an easy sale. Packing and shipping a game is easily several hours of someone's time, and not everyone would be willing to do that, especially if the have a local buyer lined up. I haven't heard that fastenal does the packing.

[edit]: https://www.fastenal.com/en/22/3pl-(third-party-logistics)

Whether or not a store can pack and strap to a pallet sounds like it would depend upon the store.

#7130 1 year ago
Quoted from Cheddar:

I've got your back in central valley CA

Me too Always good to have backup.

#7131 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

I have posted 300+ project pins in this forum, but no one is willing to help me? I won’t be posting in this thread going forward.

I am willing to help anyone here on pinside ship a game with Fastenal. I think a list of pinside users that are willing to help would be great. So Bluespin I have your back here in SW Michigan.

#7132 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

In the last four months I have found six project pins in different parts of the country that I was interested in buying. I posted on each occasion asking if a Pinsider in that region would be willing to pick up the pin and drop it at a Fastenal store. No one was willing to help me. This week a Pinsider posted a pin for sale in this forum. I asked if he was willing to drop the pin at a local Fastenal store after I sent Paypal funds. I provided a link to a Fastenal store locator. He responded that three local collectors were interested so he was just going to sell it to one of them.

I would say about 1 out of 10 people are willing to ship with Fastenal. I offer the seller a little more money for finding a pallet (usually available at Fastenal) packing and strapping. I say in some ways it is better, and easier than all that travel time, and expense.

Pros: 1. You have a for sure sale. 2. You don't have to sit at home waiting for someone to show up buyer or shipper (uselessly at their convenience and a day off work). Most Fastenals are on the way to work or some other event. 3. You can pack and ship it out at your convenience. 4. Fastenal makes the whole deal super easy. 5. The cost is half or more than any others. 6. Fast shipping, 5 days across the country (almost as fast as a letter with the USPS). 7. Two shipments now and not a scratch, with no wooden box enclosure either. 8. Don't have to have strangers show up at your home (could be a big deal for some) No more 1:00am had a flat tire, got lost, did not realize you were so far, stories.

con: 1. Hard to find people willing to use Fastenal. Most people don't even want to touch the game let alone pack, find a pallet, strap and drop off. 2. Can't inspect the game. Ask for lots of good pics. 3. Sale is final, stuck with the deal after shipping.

My advice: Don't fully pay for the game until Fastenal confirms it is at their drop off site, ready to ship out.

#7133 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

I have posted 300+ project pins in this forum, but no one is willing to help me? I won’t be posting in this thread going forward.

Dang, we'll miss ya... without you, I never would have known about that Mousin Around over in the Potomac MD estate sale. No I didn't get the game (ref pricing/timing post above) but here at home I did get a repeat of the conversation about us being out of space.

I'll never get near 300 (maybe not even near 30) finds, but here's a Dancing Dolls that posted on CL in Frederick, MD last night. Games sell fast in this area and... I'm out of space.

washingtondc.craigslist.org link

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC Pinball resets, the Pinball Pyramid, or for Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

#7134 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

No one was willing to help me.

As someone you PM'ed, I'm confused. I actually did respond saying I'd be happy to do it for you, but was out of town that weekend due to it being Thanksgiving. I would have been happy to have helped out once I returned! I never heard back from you though.

I really don't wanna see you go man! You're such an asset to this thread, which I love. Best of luck to you.

#7135 1 year ago

Bluespin- I will do my part here in the Cincinnati / NKY to keep you posting here. I follow this thread daily and appreciate your search service. If you find something and need someone to pick it up, I'd be happy to do it free of charge and pay forward the favor.

Darrin

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#7136 1 year ago
Quoted from igo4rams:

Most people don't even want to touch the game let alone pack, find a pallet, strap and drop off.

This could be a problem with some people- I sold a game to a board member who took care of the shipping, I just had to get it ready for transport which I did at my own time and expense. There was finding of a proper pallet, a roll of shrink wrap, 2 rolls of tape, a boat load of cardboard, 3 ratchet straps and four+ hours of my time before it was wrapped to my satisfaction.

That can be a lot to ask of some folks who only know the other person via internet and have limited time/space available.

#7137 1 year ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

This could be a problem with some people- I sold a game to a board member who took care of the shipping, I just had to get it ready for transport which I did at my own time and expense. There was finding of a proper pallet, a roll of shrink wrap, 2 rolls of tape, a boat load of cardboard, 3 ratchet straps and four+ hours of my time before it was wrapped to my satisfaction.
That can be a lot to ask of some folks who only know the other person via internet and have limited time/space available.

I'm still fairly new to this stuff....But the Idea scares me a little. Paypal, having someone pick it up, etc...

Especially, when trying to sell a project(I've only ever sold 2). I'd much rather sell it cash in person. Maybe my fears will change a little once I get to know the community better. In my mind there are just too many things that can go wrong! On all sides if you don't really know any of the people you are dealing with.

You are taking a lot of responsibility on your name for even picking it up for someone you've never met on the internet. Just say they back out of payment after the machine has left? And you were the guy that picked it up? How does that work?

I'm just speaking in general. Not really directing that at Bluespin. Just thoughts after reading the thread and why I wouldn't be quick to say "ya, I'll go pick that up and drop it off." Not that I wouldn't want to help, I've been burned too many times to not consider everything without really knowing anyone.

#7138 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

In the last four months I have found six project pins in different parts of the country that I was interested in buying. I posted on each occasion asking if a Pinsider in that region would be willing to pick up the pin and drop it at a Fastenal store. No one was willing to help me. This week a Pinsider posted a pin for sale in this forum. I asked if he was willing to drop the pin at a local Fastenal store after I sent Paypal funds. I provided a link to a Fastenal store locator. He responded that three local collectors were interested so he was just going to sell it to one of them.
I have posted 300+ project pins in this forum, but no one is willing to help me? I won’t be posting in this thread going forward.

Bluespin- as someone who checks out this thread every day, I'm willing to help in the western burbs of Chicago. Have a Fastenal 2 blocks away from my work.

My first month on Pinside I saw a Spectrum bg for sale at a local estate sale, checked Pinside and saw that Jody was looking for one. Messaged him and was able to grab it before the sale ended. He arranged shipping and got a sweet bg that had been used as wall art for years. Yes I made a few $ on it-but it meant more to me to help Jody complete his Spectrum......FWIW

If you decide to leave- well miss ya!

#7139 1 year ago
Quoted from Joker2415:

I'm still fairly new to this stuff....But the Idea scares me a little. Paypal, having someone pick it up, etc...
Especially, when trying to sell a project(I've only ever sold 2). I'd much rather sell it cash in person. Maybe my fears will change a little once I get to know the community better. In my mind there are just too many things that can go wrong! On all sides if you don't really know any of the people you are dealing with.
You are taking a lot of responsibility on your name for even picking it up for someone you've never met on the internet. Just say they back out of payment after the machine has left? And you were the guy that picked it up? How does that work?
I'm just speaking in general. Not really directing that at Bluespin. Just thoughts after reading the thread and why I wouldn't be quick to say "ya, I'll go pick that up and drop it off." Not that I wouldn't want to help, I've been burned too many times to not consider everything without really knowing anyone.

I can only speak of the one "over phone and e-mail transaction" that I have done. Did my due diligence; checked forum postings by buyer, did online search of name/handles to make sure there were no outstanding warnings or complaints. In my other hobby, cars, there is no shortage of.. shady characters and usually if they are going to jake someone out of cash they are habitual about it and reputation of said transaction follows them like a trail.

At some point you have to still decide.

Seller looked legit, nice guy on the phone and no skeezy trail. I try to put myself in his shoes as well because in the end if legit he is sticking his neck out to a stranger on the other end of a phone too. I offered references, detailed pictures, feedback from other sites like Ebay and Heatware, etc. He transferred funds direct to my bank, sent me e-mail proof and I finished "shopping the machine" out, packaged it up and delivered it to work where it was picked up by the transport company.

It made it there safe and sound and everyone was happy.

#7140 1 year ago
Quoted from seshpilot:

As someone you PM'ed, I'm confused. I actually did respond saying I'd be happy to do it for you, but was out of town that weekend due to it being Thanksgiving. I would have been happy to have helped out once I returned! I never heard back from you though.
I really don't wanna see you go man! You're such an asset to this thread, which I love. Best of luck to you.

seshpilot You are not remembering what transpired correctly. I posted in this forum asking if someone in the Indianapolis area if anyone in the Indi area could help me. No one in your area responded. I then pm'd you since we both are active in several classic Stern threads, and below is the conversation:

From me: I found a pin that I am interested in buying, and I am first in line. It's an early 80s Pin. I can pay you something for your time and effort. I would pay the seller directly for the pin with Paypal, and pay Fastenal directly also. The only trouble is that Fastenal stores are only open 7:30AM-5PM M-F. Thanks, John.

You said: Hey John, that might work. I'm out of town till Monday but if you can wait we may be able to work something out. Steven.

I couldn't buy the pin without a commitment from someone to pick it up. If you had said I can pick this up for you next week after work I could have tried to work that out with the seller. The seller sold to the second person in line since I couldn't commit to buying it.

Thanks to all the generous offers from everyone. I un-favorited this thread so I won't see anymore conversations on this thread.

#7141 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

seshpilot You are not remembering what transpired correctly. I posted in this forum asking if someone in the Indianapolis area if anyone in the Indi area could help me. No one in your area responded. I then pm'd you since we both are active in several classic Stern threads, and below is the conversation:
From me: I found a pin that I am interested in buying, and I am first in line. It's an early 80s Pin. I can pay you something for your time and effort. I would pay the seller directly for the pin with Paypal, and pay Fastenal directly also. The only trouble is that Fastenal stores are only open 7:30AM-5PM M-F. Thanks, John.
You said: Hey John, that might work. I'm out of town till Monday but if you can wait we may be able to work something out. Steven.
I couldn't buy the pin without a commitment from someone to pick it up. If you had said I can pick this up for you next week after work I could have tried to work that out with the seller. The seller sold to the second person in line since I couldn't commit to buying it.
Thanks to all the generous offers from everyone. I un-favorited this thread so I won't see anymore conversations on this thread.

PM sent.

#7142 1 year ago

Just a note on the EK pin listed 2 days ago. I believe the post to be correct. I ( Pinballs on the Move) transported a EK pin from a location in Florida to the buyer somewhere in the Chicago area, if my memory is correct. That pin was complete and working with the paperwork shown above. There was a second machine, which I almost purchased. Bally gave that second machine to Evil as a parts machine when ever his machine needed repair. Both machines came from Evils wife to the collector in Florida. His collection was amazing. Items from Evil, Dolly, Elvis to name a few. My best guess is the machine listed is that second parts machine. The parts machine may never have been played because it may never worked. Bally at that time would sometimes give troublesome games to distributors as parts machine. I hope this information helps anyone interested in that game. Don Bosworth (Pinballs on the Move).

#7143 1 year ago

Bluespin are you going to step up and explain why you down voted my posts?

I sent a polite PM inquiring why which so far you have not responded even though you have made posts since.

#7144 1 year ago
Quoted from bluespin:

seshpilot You are not remembering what transpired correctly. I posted in this forum asking if someone in the Indianapolis area if anyone in the Indi area could help me. No one in your area responded. I then pm'd you since we both are active in several classic Stern threads, and below is the conversation:

John, I realize you have un-favorited this thread and may not see this: I am sorry you feel like you got burned, but I'm not seeing it.

Quoted from bluespin:

From me: I found a pin that I am interested in buying, and I am first in line. It's an early 80s Pin. I can pay you something for your time and effort. I would pay the seller directly for the pin with Paypal, and pay Fastenal directly also. The only trouble is that Fastenal stores are only open 7:30AM-5PM M-F. Thanks, John.

If this is the only correspondence to seshpilot I do not see where you actually asked him if he could make the pickup for you. You talk about the Fastenal store hours and finish with Thanks John.

Where I come from, you need to actually ask if someone could make the pickup for you, like, " I want to buy this pin. It is in your area. Can you, would you go pick it up for me? I'll pay you for your time. " That requires an answer: yes or no.

You didn't ask if he could pick it up for you.

Quoted from bluespin:

You said: Hey John, that might work. I'm out of town till Monday but if you can wait we may be able to work something out. Steven.

I don't see where seshpilot said no. I see where he was out of town and busy with family/friends stuff. He asked if you could wait until he got back home. I see a timing problem. This is where you should have came back and said you could not wait for an answer because the seller was getting antsy and then ask seshpilot again if he could commit to pick the pin up.

But I don't see where you asked him for commitment to make the pick up for you. Unless there is other correspondence this is what I see. Also, my thoughts are that this is something you had been thinking on for a while and that your PM to seshpilot was his first knowledge that something is happening needs to happen.

I do not see where you communicated a sense of urgency to seshpilot. And he did not say "no".

I don't see the burn.

Quoted from bluespin:

I couldn't buy the pin without a commitment from someone to pick it up. If you had said I can pick this up for you next week after work I could have tried to work that out with the seller. The seller sold to the second person in line since I couldn't commit to buying it.
Thanks to all the generous offers from everyone. I un-favorited this thread so I won't see anymore conversations on this thread.

#7145 1 year ago

Wow. Never expected to see controversy in this thread....lol. The trouble I see with with picking up and shipping games as favors for folks that you don’t know is that there has to be some understanding of what happens if something goes wrong. I can easily see a situation where despite all careful retrieving and packing, a backglass gets broken or something. Who would be responsible for it at that point? I think this is why many people are hesitant to take it on.

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#7146 1 year ago
Quoted from SergioJ:

Wow. Never expected to see controversy in this thread....lol. The trouble I see with with picking up and shipping games as favors for folks that you don’t know is that there has to be some understanding of what happens if something goes wrong. I can easily see a situation where despite all careful retrieving and packing, a backglass gets broken or something. Who would be responsible for it at that point? I think this is why many people are hesitant to take it on.

Careful; posting common sense observations will get you downvoted.

#7147 1 year ago

I can understand both sides of the story and I always try my best to help anyone I can but TIME is a huge issue for me. With everything I always seem to have pulling me in a dozen different directions I am always happy just to find enough time to grab something to eat or get a few hours sleep.

With that said - on the average - I have found picking up a machine (even when it is "fairly local") always seems to take me 3 or 4 hours. Normally my van is sitting loaded so first thing I need to do is make some space somewhere for what is in the van. Next unload the van, then I need to dig up a handtruck (I own 4 or 5 of them but they never seem to be handy). Then drive to sellers house talk a little to seller & load and then drive home. Next thing you know 1/2 a day is gone.

If I added driving 30 to 40 minutes to someplace to get a machine shipped - doing necessary paperwork and driving home it appears to me most of my day would be gone. I just don't have that much time to devote to something these days. Normally I don't even consider making a trip to buy just one machine these days because of the cost of time. I have found out I make out better buying machines in groups to save time (travel & loading time is about the same) so if I can bring home 3 or 4 machines I can grab several machines without costing myself extra time.

I don't even ship machines I am selling because of the time it takes so it would be hard for me to help someone get a machine shipped from my area to them. I know some people have "extra" time but sadly that is not the case for me and most people in the hobby I know are in the same boat. I do understand someone getting frustrated when they can't find someone willing to help get a machine shipped to them but that is asking a lot of most people.

Just my 2 cents on things!

#7148 1 year ago

I haven't weighed in on this issue because all of you have done a much better job of expressing my thoughts in your words than I could have done.

Quoted from SergioJ:

The trouble I see with with picking up and shipping games as favors for folks that you don’t know is that there has to be some understanding of what happens if something goes wrong. I can easily see a situation where despite all careful retrieving and packing, a backglass gets broken or something. Who would be responsible for it at that point? I think this is why many people are hesitant to take it on.

This is my biggest concern about picking up a game for someone. If I take possession of a Project Pin, I am the steward of that pin. I am responsible if something gets broken. If it's a backglass, how will I replace it? I've never packed a pin for shipment. It seems like a lot of work. What if I pack it wrong and something gets broken? Again, I am responsible. Maybe some method of payment as 'insurance' is appropriate?

John, sorry but I just don't see how you have been harmed in any way. Another Pinsider offered to do you a huge favor but couldn't follow through because he was out of town and told you as much. Your posts here have helped other Pinsiders find Project Pins on their wishlist. That is your legacy. If you decide to come back, and I hope that you do, I will welcome you back with open arms. You have made my job easier and quite a few Pinsiders enjoy reading about the Project Pins you have found.

As for me, I have been blessed far more than what I have given by posting here. Some of my Project Pins wouldn't have made their way to Pecos' Palatial Pinball Parlour if I hadn't been doing my routine of looking and posting to this thread. Both Future Spa and my beloved Black Knight were acquired only because I was posting here. It makes me feel good every time I see pics of you fellow Project Pinsters bringing back a pin(s) to your Pinball Parlour.

I never would have guessed that I would have 37 pinball machines in my collection after only two and a half years of beginning this quest. Project Pins are like trolley cars. If you miss one there will always be another one just around the corner.

#7149 1 year ago

I see all these new posts and think there are projects to be had! Oh well, drama has invaded, strange drama at that.

It’s sad to see a valuable asset to the community leave but it’s just as sad to see the reason why. When I post a project machine here it is to help a fellow Pinsider hopefully get a deal, not to get people to feel obligated to help me later. That’s not how paying it forward is supposed to work.

Maybe I am part of the problem. When I post a machine and it get local interest as well as someone who wants it shipped I will go with the local buyer 100% of the time. It just makes sense. I get cash in hand, the buyer gets to look and play the machine before buying it, they transport it and I made another local contact. To turn down cash, take time out of work to get the item shipped, hope it arrives safely and then to hope there is not a contested payment with PayPal if something happens... that’s just a nightmare waiting to happen.

#7150 1 year ago
Quoted from Pecos:

If you miss one there will always be another one just around the corner.

Ding, ding. I haven't been able to buy a pin in years.
Now, I have three pins: dirt cheap, really dirt cheap.
As always, I need some time and cash in order to resurrect the dead.

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