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Poor man's Stadium lighting

By Fytr

6 years ago


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#512 4 years ago

Patent pending simply means he filed for a patent and it’s awaiting approval from uspto. It doesn’t even mean he will get the patent or not. It’s just filed and accepted but not reviewed yet. I have a patent and it’s a long process and can be stressful too.
You don’t know how far in the pile of others that you are. Meaning someone could file for the exact same thing and could be ahead of you in line to be reviewed. That person gets the patent and now you don’t because it’s considered prior art. Now your out all the money you spent to write and file.

#516 4 years ago
Quoted from pinball_mutha:

Thanks, since it's in pending status there should be an application number and or inventor name to search on. I can't find his name in the application search.
The problem is, if someone starts to make and sell them and his patent is approved he can go back on that person and collect royalties. So a person needs to know so they don't violate what he has a pending patent on.
I think he make a great product, but for some the price is too high and a cheaper alternative wood be nice to see, especially if you don't have the skills to make them yourself. There's room for competition and it's also good for innovation.

He can’t sue unless they are still selling AFTER he gets patent. It’s free game until then. He may never get the patent accepted so it wouldn’t be fair for anyone else to not offer a similar product while he waits a year for uspto to look at it.
Patent pending gives him a little protection from some major company to start stealing his idea. They won’t invest a lot into something that they may have to stop selling

#520 4 years ago
Quoted from pinball_mutha:

Thanks, in doing some research I found this from a patent lawyer:
"Patent applications are normally published after 18 months from the earliest filing date. As soon as the patent application becomes published, you can send the infringer a copy of the patent application publication and put him on notice. Then, when the patent becomes granted with mostly similar claims, you may be able recover damages for the period before the patent is granted if you choose to sue the infringer."

Only problem is you need to have very very very deep pockets to sue. And even if you win, try collecting. Only people that win are the lawyers unfortunately. I’ve been dealing with this very thing for two years now. I’m owed a tremendous amount of money which I will probably get pennies on but I want to destroy the thief’s life for what they stole from me.

#569 4 years ago
Quoted from russdx:

really want the full story on this though!!!!!

It’s not a very exciting story and way too much to write but here’s a cliffs notes version of the events.

It all started when a friend of mine told me he saw my product in some mail order catalog. Sure as shit, there it was and after a little more digging I find it in other catalogs as well. I contacted the catalog companies and said to pull the product or get sued because I did not authorize this and someone had stolen my patent. They complied immediately.

After a little investigating I found out who the manufacturing company selling my product was and sent them a cease and desist letter and that a lawsuit was being filed to reclaim damages. I even found that the owner’s business partner or marketing head claimed that she invented the product herself on her LinkedIn page. Unreal!

After a lot of back and forth we agreed to not sue but to enter a contractual agreement that entitled me to get a guaranteed quarterly fee to license them the use of the product and a royalty percentage on each individual sale, plus the right to audit them to make sure that they are not lying about the sales numbers. It was good for them and me since they had a lot invested in inventory and sales were doing well.

Fast forward, they missed payment deadlines, said sales weren’t as good as expected, and used other bullshit excuses to justify their breach of contract. I didn’t give a fuck, a contract is a contract. A cease and desist was once again issued and a suit was being brought against them. This company has been in business for a long time and have hundreds of products in their catalog that are being sold to this day, so the not having money excuse did not go over with me at all.

Lawsuit was filed and delivered, but the piece of shit thief kept ignoring it until last minute to prolong it and probably wear me down mentally and monetarily. I didn’t back down. Not to mention he was still selling off his inventory of my product.

When he finally had no choice but to address the lawsuit, he claimed he didn’t have the money that he owed me and offered 10K instead to drop it and walk away. No fucking way was I going to do that! Really? 10K instead of the close to 100K that he was supposed to pay up to this point. Add all the other damages and breaches of contract and he’s at about 200K in the hole to me. This motherfucker was making money off my product and I was getting nothing.

Meanwhile, while this asshole keeps continuing the case and prolonging the inevitable. I’ve had other big time businesses express interest in my product and want to make a deal. Big time like coca-cola/NFL big time. They want to do exclusive licensing deals but won’t until the piece of shit thief is out of the picture. So now this guy is fucking me over in another way.

This guy is still going along like it’s no skin off his back, still making money on all his other products and I’m not going to back down.

Sorry for the long response, writing this actually got me riled up again. I hate thieves! Time for a beer. Or two!

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#632 4 years ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

I have been thinking of routing some channels in the next cab I put together for my own use. I can inlay LED strips at a 45° angle. This should allow me to raise and lower the playfield, and also eliminate the awful glare...

For an even more custom look you could figure a way to allow the lights to rotate back into the groove to allow lifting the playfield, rather than having the lights permanently recessed.

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#637 4 years ago
Quoted from CLEllison:

The physical size of those reflectors are something like 1.5"? That rail would have to be the same width .... that's a ton of real estate hanging on the side. Cool thought though.

There's smaller channels available. This is the ribbon I use on my remodeling projects and this is the smallest 45deg channel they make. It's still probably too big since it's the same thickness of the cabinet side but that's where a little creativity is needed and/or fabrication of a custom channel maybe?

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#661 4 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

OK, Here it is, The BEST WAY to Light your whole Game Room! One Bulb! See Everything!

I love it. Now I can multitask. Play my pins, grow my weed, and get a tan all at once

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