Poor man's Stadium lighting

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Poor man's Stadium lighting


By Fytr

1 year ago



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#401 18 days ago

Probably pointed our before - but these cabinet blade protectors really help in raising PF's up
to protect your side/decals/tape
https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html

#402 18 days ago
Quoted from fanuminski:

Probably pointed our before - but these cabinet blade protectors really help in raising PF's up
to protect your side/decals/tape
https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html

I have one of those and LOVE it, especially if you have mirror blades.

#403 18 days ago

Thanks for the reply guys. Gonna try the thin Velcro first. I'm a bit gun-shy to mount the flush magnets. But I wont rule it out.

New issue. How can I tie the 12VDC LED controller into the GI, on Funhouse? I think the GI works off of modulated 6VAC. Maybe I am wrong. But I want the Stadium lights to operate in unison, with the GI circuit.

#404 18 days ago

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#405 18 days ago

Id really like to try this. In going through this thread there are a lot of different options for led strips. Seems like flush mounted magnet strips would be easy to use. Pretty clear where to get the angle brackets.

Ive seen the 12v and 5v usb light strips. What are most of you using? Seems like the 5v ties in cleaner. Just trying to get clarification on the led strip lighting options and whats required to use either (pros and cons?) Having a hard time following

#406 18 days ago
Quoted from djsolzs:

Id really like to try this. In going through this thread there are a lot of different options for led strips. Seems like flush mounted magnet strips would be easy to use. Pretty clear where to get the angle brackets.
Ive seen the 12v and 5v usb light strips. What are most of you using? Seems like the 5v ties in cleaner. Just trying to get clarification on the led strip lighting options and whats required to use either (pros and cons?) Having a hard time following

5v is easier to tie into if you can power it directly from an existing GI socket. Concerns are do you have the wattage overhead available on the GI circuit to add that many LEDs to it? And also I believe the 5v won't be as bright as the 12v. No way to integrate an LED controller to control the brightness or colours, etc. with 5v either as far as I am aware.

12v is powered indepenently of the game lighting so no concerns with blowing up a game board/fuse. However, if you want to integrate the lights with game GI that flashes on and off you will need to a relay of some kind to control that (not needed for earlier games that don't flash the GI). 12v can also easily controllers that support either IR remote controls or bluetooth connection to a smartphone app. to setup the colours and brightness, etc.

I was kind of hoping a Mod would step in at some point and add some key posts to this thread, but in the meantime I'll edit my OP with an index of sorts (time permitting).

#407 18 days ago

FYTR that clears a ton up for me I appreciate it. Sounds like I would prefer the 12v setup over the 5v. I dont mind running power out the cab or to the service outlet. I would like to integrate to the flashers - Ill have to do some research on the relay can this be purchased?

If I can come up with a list of things purchased for this project Ill post in one place. Thanks

#408 18 days ago
Quoted from djsolzs:

FYTR that clears a ton up for me I appreciate it. Sounds like I would prefer the 12v setup over the 5v. I dont mind running power out the cab or to the service outlet. I would like to integrate to the flashers - Ill have to do some research on the relay can this be purchased?
If I can come up with a list of things purchased for this project Ill post in one place. Thanks

If you want both GI lighting and the ability to have a flasher effect you can add two LED strips to your angled plastics, one facing straight out for GI (white, warm-white, or RGBW) and another facing down for the flasher in whatever colour you want.

The flasher strip could be powered directly off an existing flasher bulb (for SAM and earlier games anyway, no sure about Spike/2) so this is easy enough.

#409 18 days ago
Quoted from Fytr:

If you want both GI lighting and the ability to have a flasher effect you can add two LED strips to your angled plastics, one facing straight out for GI (white, warm-white, or RGBW) and another facing down for the flasher in whatever colour you want.
The flasher strip could be powered directly off an existing flasher bulb (for SAM and earlier games anyway, no sure about Spike/2) so this is easy enough.

Check out the new system from Rock Custom Pinball. His game on system powers from the service outlet, but he uses one to three light sensors to turn on mods. Great for interactive modding. rock914 I’ve tested it and it works well.

#410 18 days ago

The game on mod is interesting. Can you tell us how the 1-3 light sensors work or get configured? For example how to get the flashers to work with one of the sensors?

#411 18 days ago

The only problem with the service outlet is that the power is on all the time, even when your machine is switched off. So unless something else turns the lights off, they will always be on when you have the machine plugged in the wall.

#412 18 days ago
Quoted from JodyG:

The only problem with the service outlet is that the power is on all the time, even when your machine is switched off. So unless something else turns the lights off, they will always be on when you have the machine plugged in the wall.

One way to get controlled 110V AC (turns on/off with the game power) is tapping into the dollar bill acceptor wire harness. All Whitestar/SAM games have them and I believe most WPC. Not sure about earlier games.

#413 18 days ago
Quoted from JodyG:

The only problem with the service outlet is that the power is on all the time, even when your machine is switched off. So unless something else turns the lights off, they will always be on when you have the machine plugged in the wall.

Thanks for the tag lermods

jodyg I can certainly see why you would think that, this is not true of my mod at all.

I built my Game On System to only be on when the Game is On. I utilize a light sensor relay to turn the power on to the system. If you put the sensor near a GI light it will act as a GI relay. Additional sensors can be purchased (up to 8 ) to interact with any light in the game be it GI, flasher, insert, spot or what have you. I built this system as a work around for Stern Spike games since the node boards are so fragile and Stern voids the warranty if we plug into them. So, with this system I can power all my mods and other makers such as Lermods, Mezelmods, speaker light kits, etc... I will be adding a larger power supply to handle all these mods as well as colordmd.

I have not read much of this thread and have always supported and helped the DIY guys. I just want to say Pinstadium lights are a great product and well worth the money in my opinion. Scott does a fantastic job with them and his tech support is excellent.

#414 17 days ago
Quoted from Rock914:

Thanks for the tag lermods
jodyg I can certainly see why you would think that, this is not true of my mod at all.
I built my Game On System to only be on when the Game is On. I utilize a light sensor relay to turn the power on to the system. If you put the sensor near a GI light it will act as a GI relay. Additional sensors can be purchased (up to 8 ) to interact with any light in the game be it GI, flasher, insert, spot or what have you. I built this system as a work around for Stern Spike games since the node boards are so fragile and Stern voids the warranty if we plug into them. So, with this system I can power all my mods and other makers such as Lermods, Mezelmods, speaker light kits, etc... I will be adding a larger power supply to handle all these mods as well as colordmd.
I have not read much of this thread and have always supported and helped the DIY guys. I just want to say Pinstadium lights are a great product and well worth the money in my opinion. Scott does a fantastic job with them and his tech support is excellent.

That sounds like my photosensor control that was installed in your display game in New England that I loaned you. I talked about them 9 months ago on this link https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/%e2%9c%94-lighted-magnetic-hinge-covers-lighted-pinball-mods

Wish you would have at least talked to me about them or give me a bit of credit.

#415 16 days ago
Quoted from Litedpinballmods:

That sounds like my photosensor control that was installed in your display game in New England that I loaned you. I talked about them 9 months ago on this link https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/%e2%9c%94-lighted-magnetic-hinge-covers-lighted-pinball-mods
Wish you would have at least talked to me about them or give me a bit of credit.

Here is a picture of my Game On setup.

Since you have not responded to your email or PM I guess I will address this here.

Looks like you were if fact using something very similar 9 months ago, so if you want credit here it is. Great way to supply power to your mod without using the machines boards, genius! That is exactly why I created this system to power mods as well as provide interactive features. I looked at your mods yesterday and you supply nothing that does this so I am not sure what the issue is. I did not copy what you were using even though we may be using the same thing. You or your mod were not even a thought in my head so I am not sure why I would have contacted you about it. I like your mods very much and from what I have seen you do nice work.

You did graciously lend me your game to put in Pinstadiums booth at Pintastic, thank you. I wish I understood what you were doing then. I think we could have worked together on this. But you know shows we were both very busy with our own booths and I had a rough time looking after Pinstadiums booth as well. Feel free to email me if you would like to discuss further.

Thanks for all the PM’s guys. To answer some questions. No, I will not build a product similar to Pinstadiums for you. I provide a GI relay that was asked for in this thread. If you want Pinstadiums buy the real deal. I worked with Scott a lot on them before they came to market, they are a fantastic product. If you are making them yourself and need a GI relay and power, I have that.

Regards
Chris
https://www.rockcustompinball.com

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#416 15 days ago
Quoted from Rock914:

Here is a picture of my Game On setup.
Since you have not responded to your email or PM I guess I will address this here.
Looks like you were if fact using something very similar 9 months ago, so if you want credit here it is. Great way to supply power to your mod without using the machines boards, genius! That is exactly why I created this system to power mods as well as provide interactive features. I looked at your mods yesterday and you supply nothing that does this so I am not sure what the issue is. I did not copy what you were using even though we may be using the same thing. You or your mod were not even a thought in my head so I am not sure why I would have contacted you about it. I like your mods very much and from what I have seen you do nice work.
You did graciously lend me your game to put in Pinstadiums booth at Pintastic, thank you. I wish I understood what you were doing then. I think we could have worked together on this. But you know shows we were both very busy with our own booths and I had a rough time looking after Pinstadiums booth as well. Feel free to email me if you would like to discuss further.
Thanks for all the PM’s guys. To answer some questions. No, I will not build a product similar to Pinstadiums for you. I provide a GI relay that was asked for in this thread. If you want Pinstadiums buy the real deal. I worked with Scott a lot on them before they came to market, they are a fantastic product. If you are making them yourself and need a GI relay and power, I have that.
Regards
Chris
https://www.rockcustompinball.com
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You do nice work Rock.

#417 13 days ago

Hi all!

As this thread has grown it has become more and more cumbersome to find relevant information within it.

Taking matters into my own hands I have created an FAQ-format index at the top of the 1st post for people to reference for common questions with links to available reference posts, etc.

See: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/poor-mans-stadium-lighting#post-4153578

I will attempt to keep this index current by adding new reference links when appropriate, etc.

Please PM me if you find any glaring ommissions or mistakes or would like to provide additional content.

#418 12 days ago
Quoted from Rock914:

Here is a picture of my Game On setup.
Since you have not responded to your email or PM I guess I will address this here.
Looks like you were if fact using something very similar 9 months ago, so if you want credit here it is. Great way to supply power to your mod without using the machines boards, genius! That is exactly why I created this system to power mods as well as provide interactive features. I looked at your mods yesterday and you supply nothing that does this so I am not sure what the issue is. I did not copy what you were using even though we may be using the same thing. You or your mod were not even a thought in my head so I am not sure why I would have contacted you about it. I like your mods very much and from what I have seen you do nice work.
You did graciously lend me your game to put in Pinstadiums booth at Pintastic, thank you. I wish I understood what you were doing then. I think we could have worked together on this. But you know shows we were both very busy with our own booths and I had a rough time looking after Pinstadiums booth as well. Feel free to email me if you would like to discuss further.
Thanks for all the PM’s guys. To answer some questions. No, I will not build a product similar to Pinstadiums for you. I provide a GI relay that was asked for in this thread. If you want Pinstadiums buy the real deal. I worked with Scott a lot on them before they came to market, they are a fantastic product. If you are making them yourself and need a GI relay and power, I have that.
Regards
Chris
https://www.rockcustompinball.com
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It does exactly what your item does. It has a 12V input using a 5.5mm x 2.1mm and output. You can hook up a spliter to it just like yours. It has a photosensor that triggers to allow power to go out. The phototsensor is on a 30 wire so in can put next to any light on the play field. How is yours different then mine? You had borrowed my machine that had it in it in June of 2018, then 6 months later you come out with the same exact product I made and designed. How is it different? You even said that when you talked to Lermods, he told you it was the same item I had made. Lermods would know, because I gave him one in June. So, it sounds like Lermods had my back on this.

We have had about 1,000 of these shipped, even Cointaker has been selling my products with this controller for 8 months.

Dan

#419 12 days ago
Quoted from Rock914:

Here is a picture of my Game On setup.
Since you have not responded to your email or PM I guess I will address this here.
Looks like you were if fact using something very similar 9 months ago, so if you want credit here it is. Great way to supply power to your mod without using the machines boards, genius! That is exactly why I created this system to power mods as well as provide interactive features. I looked at your mods yesterday and you supply nothing that does this so I am not sure what the issue is. I did not copy what you were using even though we may be using the same thing. You or your mod were not even a thought in my head so I am not sure why I would have contacted you about it. I like your mods very much and from what I have seen you do nice work.
You did graciously lend me your game to put in Pinstadiums booth at Pintastic, thank you. I wish I understood what you were doing then. I think we could have worked together on this. But you know shows we were both very busy with our own booths and I had a rough time looking after Pinstadiums booth as well. Feel free to email me if you would like to discuss further.
Thanks for all the PM’s guys. To answer some questions. No, I will not build a product similar to Pinstadiums for you. I provide a GI relay that was asked for in this thread. If you want Pinstadiums buy the real deal. I worked with Scott a lot on them before they came to market, they are a fantastic product. If you are making them yourself and need a GI relay and power, I have that.
Regards
Chris
https://www.rockcustompinball.com
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Here is a 91 second video that was posted on Youtube 9 months ago that demonstrated the photosenor relay. Look closely, 12V 5.5mm x 2.1mm out, we even have two outputs to hook up to two items without using a spliter. That has a 1 amp power supply on it in that picture, but our design can handle over 10 amps. The phototsensor is on a wire, so it can be put next to any light in your game to control the power flow. The board even has a pedometer on it so you can control the light input if needed for more delicate inputs. The only difference is you put yours in a box.

Please note that video was posted 9 months ago, 7 months before yours came out, and the video has about 1,300 views.

Their is no difference between your item and mine item, and you had my item in your hand in June of 2018!!

Dan

#420 12 days ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

You do nice work Rock.

And Paul, I shipped you one of these relays about 4 months ago.

#421 12 days ago
Quoted from Litedpinballmods:

Here is a 91 second video that was posted on Youtube 9 months ago that demonstrated the photosenor relay. Look closely, 12V 5.5mm x 2.1mm out, we even have two outputs to hook up to two items without using a spliter. That has a 1 amp power supply on it in that picture, but our design can handle over 10 amps. The phototsensor is on a wire, so it can be put next to any light in your game to control the power flow. The board even has a pedometer on it so you can control the light input if needed for more delicate inputs. The only difference is you put yours in a box.
Please note that video was posted 9 months ago, 7 months before yours came out, and the video has about 1,300 views.
Their is no difference between your item and mine item, and you had my item in your hand in June of 2018!!
Dan

You assume to much.

Why are you posting this? All the answers have been addressed in PM’s. I didn’t copy your stuff. Just because our relays are similar does not mean I copied you. I don’t even see that you sell a power supply like this or one at all. If you still believe you have been wronged offer the same thing as me, hell make it cheaper for everyone. That should help the community.

#422 12 days ago
Quoted from Rock914:

You assume to much.
Why are you posting this? All the answers have been addressed in PM’s. I didn’t copy your stuff. Just because our relays are similar does not mean I copied you. I don’t even see that you sell a power supply like this or one at all. If you still believe you have been wronged offer the same thing as me, hell make it cheaper for everyone. That should help the community.

We have those power supplies in 3 amp, 5 amp and 7 amp. Those hinges only take .25 amps, why would I want to put a larger power supply on that. WOW, you are really reaching. I am not going to reply and clutter up this thread any more. People can see your description, see how it is exactly what is on the 91 second video, that was posted 7 months before you showed your product. You and I even talked about this product standing in front of our photosensor display in New England, and you had it in the game I loaned you at the show. Also, they are not similar, the hardware is exactly the same. Amazing how you made something exactly the same as mine after you saw mine. WOW!

No more replies from me. Sorry to viewers of this thread that I had to call Rock out and waste your guys time, just needed to get the truth out.

#423 12 days ago
Quoted from Litedpinballmods:

And Paul, I shipped you one of these relays about 4 months ago.

Hmmmmm I don't remember getting it.

#424 12 days ago

litedpinballmods and rock914 seems like you guys might want to start your own thread for this?

If either of you have a Pinside Market ad or other thread where folks can learn about your mods and purchase them please let me know and I'll add those to the FAQ for interested parties. An inexpensive assemble-yourself kit option would be great as well.

#425 12 days ago

For my last 4 games I've had come thru my gameroom, I've used this simple and cheap solution for lighting.

$4.88 each @ Walmart, Monster makes white LED strips, USB powered and includes a remote to change 4 different shades of white (cool, day, warm, ice) and the brightness. I have lots of USB wall adapters, so I get one for each strip and plug them into a 4' extension cord plugged into the service outlet. I turn my games on/off with a powerstrip, so the lights turn on and off with my games.

I spray paint the Home Depot metal angle strips black and use magnet tape to secure the angle strips to the cabinet. I use a little superglue on the back of the LED strips to be make sure the LED strips don't ever lift.

Cheapest, easiest, basic lighting solution I've made yet. I don't want my lights to turn on/off with the GI and I only want shades of white to choose from. Just plug and play into the service outlet. My Big Hurt game does not have a service outlet, so the extension cord runs out the rear of the cabinet into the power strip. So that's an easy workaround if your game lacks a service outlet.

#426 12 days ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Hmmmmm I don't remember getting it.

it was with the hinge for Batman Forever. Did you ever get the Batman Forever hinge?

#427 12 days ago
Quoted from Litedpinballmods:

it was with the hinge for Batman Forever. Did you ever get the Batman Forever hinge?

Oh yes stupid me yes I got it but I've been so busy with other things I haven't installed it yet, sorry. I still haven't finished installing your HS II speaker panel light up also. There never seems to be enough hours in a day.

#428 9 days ago

Just finished this set for my party zone. It’s plenty bright but the game has a feature you never see. Amazing fluorescent paint scheme!

The game has a single GI string that’s only red lights. You can’t tell with all other strings on but when they are turned off, it’s really cool. I took it 1 step further and used a 6vac relay NC on a normal GI string so when only the red string is on, so is my uv rail lights. Pretty pleased as it’s a cool effect. Sorry for crappy playing and glass glare. Also sorry, my kids watching Brave in the background.

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#429 9 days ago
Quoted from Langless28:

Just finished this set for my party zone. It’s plenty bright but the game has a feature you never see. Amazing fluorescent paint scheme!
The game has a single GI string that’s only red lights. You can’t tell with all other strings on but when they are turned off, it’s really cool. I took it 1 step further and used a 6vac relay NC on a normal GI string so when only the red string is on, so is my uv rail lights. Pretty pleased as it’s a cool effect. Sorry for crappy playing and glass glare. Also sorry, my kids watching Brave in the background.
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Wow that really does light up great, same with TFTC. With digital printed pf's you can kiss the bl glow goodby.

1 week later
#430 12 hours ago

Hi!

I am using an external power source to power up my "poor man stadium lights". The power source is connected to a power outlet on the wall. On the outlet I have a remote control unit socket - I mean, I can turn power on/off to the socket. However, even though I would have switched the power off, there is still small current going to the led-bars. I notice it e.g. by pressing the lights with my fingers, usually some lights turn on then and they seem to give tiny electrical shocks as well.

This has resulted into me plugging the power sources off completely from the wall as I do not like the idea of the led-bars having power all the time and thinking that perhaps it would be a fire hazard. Its annoying to having to plug them in again, when playing a game.

Its strange that the remote controllable socket does not stop the power going to the led-bars completely.

Any tips on how to avoid this? Someone told me to try to turn the socket 180 degrees, but it did not help.

Thanks for any help!

#431 12 hours ago

is it just for a brief time after power down? some wall warts (power supplies) have dc smoothing caps in them that hold a change for a small amount of time after they are unplugged/off maybe 10-20s.

if they fully turn on with the socket turned off then something is probably wrong with the socket.

#432 12 hours ago
Quoted from Langless28:

is it just for a brief time after power down? some wall warts (power supplies) have dc smoothing caps in them that hold a change for a small amount of time after they are unplugged/off maybe 10-20s.
if they fully turn on with the socket turned off then something is probably wrong with the socket.

It is usually more time than that, when I have tested them...

They do not turn on fully at all, when the socket has been remotely turned off - it is just that when I press the led-bar with fingers, usually that section of the led-light bar lights up (2-3 leds only). And touching the led-bars may give a small electric shock on occasion even though the socket is off. Seems like there is some tiny current on them all the time.

#433 11 hours ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

Hi!
I am using an external power source to power up my "poor man stadium lights". The power source is connected to a power outlet on the wall. On the outlet I have a remote control unit socket - I mean, I can turn power on/off to the socket. However, even though I would have switched the power off, there is still small current going to the led-bars. I notice it e.g. by pressing the lights with my fingers, usually some lights turn on then and they seem to give tiny electrical shocks as well.
This has resulted into me plugging the power sources off completely from the wall as I do not like the idea of the led-bars having power all the time and thinking that perhaps it would be a fire hazard. Its annoying to having to plug them in again, when playing a game.
Its strange that the remote controllable socket does not stop the power going to the led-bars completely.
Any tips on how to avoid this? Someone told me to try to turn the socket 180 degrees, but it did not help.
Thanks for any help!

Get rid of that remote switch and put a small 6 outlet power strip with an on/off rocker switch in place of the coin box, plug the wall wart into that and run an extension cord into the power strip. To turn the strip on and off just open the coin door and flick the switch.

#434 6 hours ago

Wouldn't it be easier to just hook it into the power of the pinball machine so it turns on and off with the machine? I can't understand having a external plugin for some LEDs...

#435 3 hours ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

It is usually more time than that, when I have tested them...
They do not turn on fully at all, when the socket has been remotely turned off - it is just that when I press the led-bar with fingers, usually that section of the led-light bar lights up (2-3 leds only). And touching the led-bars may give a small electric shock on occasion even though the socket is off. Seems like there is some tiny current on them all the time.

Your remote switch must be "leaky" where it provides a small amount of current even when it supposed to be off. I have an Xmas light timer that does the same thing, when it is "off" the lights are still very dimly lit.

Probably not a big deal, you might try measuring the current coming out of the socket when it is off with a multimeter (carefully).

#436 1 hour ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

Hi!
I am using an external power source to power up my "poor man stadium lights". The power source is connected to a power outlet on the wall. On the outlet I have a remote control unit socket - I mean, I can turn power on/off to the socket. However, even though I would have switched the power off, there is still small current going to the led-bars. I notice it e.g. by pressing the lights with my fingers, usually some lights turn on then and they seem to give tiny electrical shocks as well.
This has resulted into me plugging the power sources off completely from the wall as I do not like the idea of the led-bars having power all the time and thinking that perhaps it would be a fire hazard. Its annoying to having to plug them in again, when playing a game.
Its strange that the remote controllable socket does not stop the power going to the led-bars completely.
Any tips on how to avoid this? Someone told me to try to turn the socket 180 degrees, but it did not help.
Thanks for any help!

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