poor mans pin mirrors

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poor mans pin mirrors


By lladnip

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

had a old sheet of mirrored acrylic laying around the shop and wanted it gone, used it up doing some side mirrors and a rear mirror.

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#4 4 years ago

sorry the order was mixed up on the loading- estimated time per machine 2-3 hours, est cost ex labor 10-15$, and best yet made the acrylic come up missing from the shop space.

#5 4 years ago

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#6 4 years ago

Whow I really like it . Have 5 pins and don't want to spend $400 layiny around to mirror them. Where can you buy this material . How thick is it?

#7 4 years ago
Quoted from Fishmugger:

Whow I really like it . Have 5 pins and don't want to spend $400 layiny around to mirror them. Where can you buy this material . How thick is it?

Ditto

#8 4 years ago

I did the same thing to my Space Shuttle about 6 months ago, they sit on top of the wood pf side rails behind the playfield plastics which also hold them in place. They are not screwed or glued to the cab sides so I can easily slip them out when I want to raise the pf.

#9 4 years ago

This sounds great

#10 4 years ago

That is dope

#12 4 years ago

you can save alot even organising your own mirrors made, I can help with the design files.

Just keep in mind the thickness, as SS is 0.8mm and at times it gets tight with that.

#13 4 years ago
Quoted from swinks:

you can save alot even organising your own mirrors made, I can help with the design files.
Just keep in mind the thickness, as SS is 0.8mm and at times it gets tight with that.

But if you have the pf side rails that run the length of the pf like Space Shuttle you don't have to mount them they sit on top of the side rails and just slide in and out so check your machine, see if it will work for you like it did for me.

#14 4 years ago
Quoted from Fishmugger:

Whow I really like it . Have 5 pins and don't want to spend $400 layiny around to mirror them. Where can you buy this material . How thick is it?

I checked at that Tapp place and 2 pieces 6X40X1/8 is almost $30 + shipping

#15 4 years ago

http://www.emachineshop.com/

You can get anything you want here. The more you buy the cheaper....

#16 4 years ago

That's a nice find PT! But if I wanted e.g. black mirror side blades to be made, what is the material I would be after? And just asking them to cut it in accordance with the design files?

#17 4 years ago
Quoted from Fishmugger:

Whow I really like it . Have 5 pins and don't want to spend $400 layiny around to mirror them. Where can you buy this material . How thick is it?

i hear ya- my ave pin cost about is about 6 or so, so to mirror everything i wantted would be an other pin or 2's cost, not to mention most of my pins are older and no one dose offer any for them anyways.

i picked up the material (sheet was 2'x4' @.125), at minards 3 years or so ago for 25-30$ or so i cant really remember- was gonna do a 1/2 bath in the basement with it but found a nice framed glass one so this sheet was setting around (in the way being moved ever so often)

#18 4 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

I did the same thing to my Space Shuttle about 6 months ago, they sit on top of the wood pf side rails behind the playfield plastics which also hold them in place. They are not screwed or glued to the cab sides so I can easily slip them out when I want to raise the pf.

ya kind varies per machine clearences, the old zodiac was super sweet as i had about 1/8 on each side of the pf- they drop all the way down to the pf supports- (center the pf nicely too)-, most other i floated above the pf. had some nice cardboard and made a template- to get a good tight fit up. also the rear mirrors if you make them they lock the side mirrors- so i did that mirror last. i pull them all out befor you rase the pf so they wont rub or be in the way

#19 4 years ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

That's a nice find PT! But if I wanted e.g. black mirror side blades to be made, what is the material I would be after? And just asking them to cut it in accordance with the design files?

The black mirrors would be a different coating or finish. Basically you install the CAD program, specify the size, shape, material, thickness and coating/finish. The program guides you along the way to keep the cost down. Buying one or two of anything costs a lot, but get up to 20+ of something and the prices are cheap. You can play with the numbers and watch the cost go up and down.

#20 4 years ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

That's a nice find PT! But if I wanted e.g. black mirror side blades to be made, what is the material I would be after? And just asking them to cut it in accordance with the design files?

Ask for chemically coloured black mirror finished stainless steel sheets in 0.8mm thickness.

As swinks mentioned in his post earlier, if you have the CAD files it will make the process much easier.

#21 4 years ago

Hi!

Thanks! Swinks made the CAD-files available (saw those on the Aussie pinball forum), so that helps certainly, thanks for that as well!

#22 4 years ago

As PT mentioned, there won't be much costs savings if you are just doing one set.

A standard sized stainless steel sheet however will do 8 sets (pairs) from memory.

Good luck.

#23 4 years ago
Quoted from pinsanity:

Ask for chemically coloured black mirror finished stainless steel sheets in 0.8mm thickness.
As swinks mentioned in his post earlier, if you have the CAD files it will make the process much easier.

One additional question: do I need to ask for some finishing to be done for the sheets (I mean in addition to cutting in accordance with the cad-files)?

#24 4 years ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

One additional question: do I need to ask for some finishing to be done for the sheets (I mean in addition to cutting in accordance with the cad-files)?

no the sheet will be either available or not with the various coloured treatment for SS, just ensure it is No:8 finish for the nice mirrored effect.

I got my coloured mirror from Rimex here in Aus. Gold mirror was made in Australia but the Black mirror was brought over from Rimex UK, so contact these guys and see if they send to anywhere in Finland or your local country. You will find black and gold mirror material cost will be double that of regular silver mirror. You will see on the file that you would of got from me 5 instructions along the top for the laser cutter, very important is that they turn off certain layers and that the protective coating remains on the product from the point of them purchasing the material right through to the final products cut and ready to install into your machine - mirror scratches easily and some companies will slide them around each other. Hope that helps.
http://www.rimexmetals.com

Quoted from Nepi23:

Hi!
Thanks! Swinks made the CAD-files available (saw those on the Aussie pinball forum), so that helps certainly, thanks for that as well!

Glad it helps, I made these available as in Australia as one set of mirrored panels were an extremely expensive here in Aus. I was reluctant to post all the cad files here on Pinside as I did not want to affect certain guys making money from these items but for those wanting to deck out your collection you can save alot of money.

Quoted from pinsanity:

As PT mentioned, there won't be much costs savings if you are just doing one set.
A standard sized stainless steel sheet however will do 8 sets (pairs) from memory.
Good luck.

Pinsanity is correct you will have to either buy a full sheet or if you only want one or 2 sets then very likely the company will buy a full sheet and without you being aware you will pay for the full sheet of material as well as laser cutting of what ever amount of sets. Cutting could start at $70-$80 a set if your getting just one set from a fairly competitive laser cutter (in Aus), but you can fit 8 sets in a 8 x 4 sheet of material and for silver will be about $40-$50 a set (material and cutting) if getting a few sheets done in one go.

I had 2 runs of 3 sheets making 48 sets altogether and sold much of it to the AP golds in the gold and black mirror half of what it would cost to buy from the only US supplier at that stage. I also did because I wanted a few sets of black mirror for myself, it took a bit of effort but I covered the costs and my time but no real profit.

If you want the designs they look like this and I can make available but only if I am not shot down for helping. I have a full sheet designed as Sterns, a full sheet designed as Bally / WMS and a combo sheet of 50/50. Below is the combo and notice with mine I installed screw holes and drawing pin holes as using the drawing pins will definitely cause less damage to your cabinet.

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My advice is before getting a sheet in gold or black mirror make sure the company you run with can do a silver sheet without any issues, then team up with some mates and pool in and you will save yourself alot of money. I proved that laser companies can get it wrong and want to modify your file to suit they cutting / programming process, that is why one of the comments at the top of the file states use the lhs and rhs profile files etc.

#25 4 years ago

Thanks swinks!

#26 4 years ago

Nice thinking llabnip! I guess i'll being busy during the holidays.

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#27 4 years ago
Quoted from lladnip:

had a old sheet of mirrored acrylic laying around the shop and wanted it gone, used it up doing some side mirrors and a rear mirror.
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Thanks for the PM directing me to this thread!

#28 4 years ago

well seen the baywatch and thought its kind the same place i was some time back- ever have any q's just pm or post -its all good.

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