Anyone have a gameroom pool table? What table size? Felt color? Any recommendations on getting it in the basement? The coin op table I am considering weighs 700 or 900 lbs, single piece of slate. I assume it would be transported to the basement as slate only and then the rest of it? Out-source that? Thanks!
https://www.valley-dynamo.com/valley-panther-zd11-black-cat/
https://www.valley-dynamo.com/valley-panther-zd11-highland-maple/
I have a 5 x 9 Olhausen. Natural finish hard rock maple with a dark green felt. Slate is 3 pieces. We went with the dark green because of the gold carpet in the room.
You will probably have to take it apart. Mine was professionally assembled and leveled. Go with the pros.
I have black felt, the table is white. Single piece slate. HEAVY.
I have moved it twice and hired a pool table moving service. I do not remember the cost, but well worth it.
My table breaks down to slate, legs and body.
Quoted from KozMckPinball:Anyone have a gameroom pool table? What table size? Felt color? Any recommendations on getting it in the basement? The coin op table I am considering weighs 700 or 900 lbs, single piece of slate. I assume it would be transported to the basement as slate only and then the rest of it? Out-source that? Thanks!
https://www.valley-dynamo.com/valley-panther-zd11-black-cat/
https://www.valley-dynamo.com/valley-panther-zd11-highland-maple/
The best way to move a pool table is get a 6 pack and drink it while you watch someone else move it.
Quoted from tomtest:I have mine for sale for $575 picked up in Hagerstown, Md, it's 3 piece slate and includes all the accessories.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Your Dracula topper looks like he's playing the circle game.
a1f0a821cded1a9e33f605091f0766f8 (resized).jpgI think most places provide color matched chalk to the felt now. At least the place I use does. I just moved into a new house. I disassembled it and moved it myself as it really wasn't that hard. It came in 3 pieces of slate though which are somewhere around 150-200 pounds each. I couldn't imagine moving a piece that was the full size! They charged me $450 to refelt the table and assemble it in my new gameroom. I have a Brunswick Contender Table.
Quoted from djreddog:Just be mindful that the color of your felt may look pretty once it is installed, but if people use blue chalk on your tan felt, it will look horrible.
I got my table from my dad who got it from my grandparents. They all used blue chalk on black felt. It looked horrible. I had it re-felted and got black chalk.
Quoted from KozMckPinball:Anyone have a gameroom pool table? What table size? Felt color? Any recommendations on getting it in the basement? The coin op table I am considering weighs 700 or 900 lbs, single piece of slate. I assume it would be transported to the basement as slate only and then the rest of it? Out-source that? Thanks!
https://www.valley-dynamo.com/valley-panther-zd11-black-cat/
https://www.valley-dynamo.com/valley-panther-zd11-highland-maple/
I really like the bar style coin op Valleys. Just like we played back in the day in college bars. Anyone have a 7' at home?
Quoted from KozMckPinball:I really like the bar style coin op Valleys. Just like we played back in the day in college bars. Anyone have a 7' at home?
If I was looking to buy a 7' table, I'd personally give serious consideration to one of these:
Quoted from djreddog:Just be mindful that the color of your felt may look pretty once it is installed, but if people use blue chalk on your tan felt, it will look horrible.
Most suppliers have color match chalk. I have dark green to match my felt.
I have the valley panther highland maple home use option (no coin op) and put Simonis tournament blue cloth on it. I have it in a back room with easy first level access and think it’d be a real pain if not impossible to get it my basement being a one piece slate table. Previous post shows the Diamonds Pro-Am which come in a 3 piece slate option to get them up or down stairs. Beautiful tables and may be a better option dealing with delivery and stairs.
And sure, I could have more room for pinball or arcade games without a pool table but then I wouldn’t have room for a pool table 
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Quoted from tuffano:I have the valley panther highland maple home use option (no coin op) and put Simonis tournament blue cloth on it. I have it in a back room with easy first level access and think it’d be a real pain if not impossible to get it my basement being a one piece slate table. Previous post shows the Diamonds Pro-Am which come in a 3 piece slate option to get them up or down stairs. Beautiful tables and may be a better option dealing with delivery and stairs.
And sure, I could have more room for pinball or arcade games without a pool table but then I wouldn’t have room for a pool table
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Love that table. Is it an 8'? (actually 8.4' or 101")
Hey OP. I share your love for the Valley "bar box". I have a Valley ZD-8 7' coin-op pool table that I bought from a gentleman off of eBay right here:
He was super awesome to deal with and felt work was TOP notch. Plus, for $1/mile (1-way) he delivered it to my home for me. That was SUPER nice and convenient!!
It is a solid 1-piece slate at 0.25" thick. Slate alone is prolly 300 lbs and the rest of the table I'd guess is 350 lbs or so (with each leg weighing 25 to 30 lbs a piece) for about a total of 725 to 750 lbs.
We did move it to a basement first, and I hired Absolute Billiard Service in Dayton, OH. Thankfully, we JUST happened to live in Dayton, and they did all the work, and trust me, that did NOT look fun. They did the slate first along with the legs, and then they did the whole table - 1 piece - all the way down. Two guys did it, which was insanely impressive. I also hired them to bring it back up when I had to move due to the military "saying so".
Now, the table sits in the main dining area of our home, which is located almost right outside of Eglin AFB. I have to move again come February 2021, but thankfully there's plenty of space and NO stairs - just a straight shot to the front door.
Don't be surprised if you can't get a company to come move it into or out of your home. I noticed a fair amount of hesitation with every company I even brought the notion to except Absolute Billiards. I was very lucky to have their service. Cost was around $450 each time, and that is price of what...a Stern TOPPER...to keep your back safe?
Honestly, you may just need to find 5-6 suckers, er friends, entice them with a couple 12 packs of beer and pizza or take everyone to Chick-Fil-A and tell them "It's going to suck, but drinks are all on me." or "It's CFA time!!!"
I know I'd help out if CFA was offered to me (along with 4 or 5 others guaranteed to help).
Good luck, man. Nothing like hearing the "spider gully system" directing the billiard balls to the acrylic window.
Quoted from NPO:Hey OP. I share your love for the Valley "bar box". I have a Valley ZD-8 7' coin-op pool table that I bought from a gentleman off of eBay right here:
ebay.com link
He was super awesome to deal with and felt work was TOP notch. Plus, for $1/mile (1-way) he delivered it to my home for me. That was SUPER nice and convenient!!
It is a solid 1-piece slate at 0.25" thick. Slate alone is prolly 300 lbs and the rest of the table I'd guess is 350 lbs or so (with each leg weighing 25 to 30 lbs a piece) for about a total of 725 to 750 lbs.
We did move it to a basement first, and I hired Absolute Billiard Service in Dayton, OH. Thankfully, we JUST happened to live in Dayton, and they did all the work, and trust me, that did NOT look fun. They did the slate first along with the legs, and then they did the whole table - 1 piece - all the way down. Two guys did it, which was insanely impressive. I also hired them to bring it back up when I had to move due to the military "saying so".
Now, the table sits in the main dining area of our home, which is located almost right outside of Eglin AFB. I have to move again come February 2021, but thankfully there's plenty of space and NO stairs - just a straight shot to the front door.
Don't be surprised if you can't get a company to come move it into or out of your home. I noticed a fair amount of hesitation with every company I even brought the notion to except Absolute Billiards. I was very lucky to have their service. Cost was around $450 each time, and that is price of what...a Stern TOPPER...to keep your back safe?
Honestly, you may just need to find 5-6 suckers, er friends, entice them with a couple 12 packs of beer and pizza or take everyone to Chick-Fil-A and tell them "It's going to suck, but drinks are all on me." or "It's CFA time!!!"
I know I'd help out if CFA was offered to me (along with 4 or 5 others guaranteed to help).
Good luck, man. Nothing like hearing the "spider gully system" directing the billiard balls to the acrylic window.
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I actually remember your thread posting when you had the table brought into the basement maybe 2 years ago the stairs were a straight shot down no landing. The basement was just re-done or empty I believe and I remember that orange felt. You also had a drum kit I believe. The ZD8 coin op got my attention at the time. 
That table's a beauty. I wish Valley would bring back the mahogany. I contacted that guy a couple of years ago I thought he told me he doesn't ship tables outside of his local area.
Quoted from djreddog:Just be mindful that the color of your felt may look pretty once it is installed, but if people use blue chalk on your tan felt, it will look horrible.
Unless people are bringing their own chalk over to my house it ain't gonna happen.
Felts been on the table going on five years now and yes I have tan chalk to match the felt.
Quoted from drummermike:I have a 5 x 9 Olhausen. Natural finish hard rock maple with a dark green felt. Slate is 3 pieces. We went with the dark green because of the gold carpet in the room.
You will probably have to take it apart. Mine was professionally assembled and leveled. Go with the pros.
I have an 8 foot Olhausen Belmont with Gold felt. It coordinated and contrasted nicely with the paint colors in the finished basement game room.
It's a 3 piece slate. Professionally assembled. And professionally re-leveled after a few weeks of settling on the heavy carpet and padding
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My phone camera stinks. The colors look much better in person.
Quoted from Gryszzz:Another 8ft Olhausen checking in. First thing I bought when we moved into our dream house. Gonna rack em up tonight in honor of this thread.
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Do you play those guitars?
You can see my cheap cello in my photo, but I don't do much with it (I do, however, play the violin).
Quoted from investingdad:Do you play those guitars?
You can see my cheap cello in my photo, but I don't do much with it (I do, however, play the violin).
I NOW CHRISTEN YOU: VIOLENT DOLLARS DAD.
Lol.
I used to. Not so much these days. I was admiring that cello in your photo. I once saw a "metal" band consisting of 2 cellos and violin and (maybe?) drums, and it was freakin amazing.
Quoted from Gryszzz:I NOW CHRISTEN YOU: VIOLENT DOLLARS DAD.
Lol.
I used to. Not so much these days. I was admiring that cello in your photo. I once saw a "metal" band consisting of 2 cellos and violin and (maybe?) drums, and it was freakin amazing.
Check out "2Cellos" on YouTube, those guys are amazing.
As to my cello, thanks but to be honest it's a cheap Chinese instrument...looks nice from a distance, though.
My violin, however, is a French made instrument from around 1900 or so. Appraised for about the same as two NIB pins.
Quoted from Gryszzz:I NOW CHRISTEN YOU: VIOLENT DOLLARS DAD.
Lol.
I used to. Not so much these days. I was admiring that cello in your photo. I once saw a "metal" band consisting of 2 cellos and violin and (maybe?) drums, and it was freakin amazing.
Sounds like ELO.
Quoted from Rager170:I have an 8 ft table with Macintosh Red.. Brunswick..[quoted image]
I like the tile floor.
Any chance it's "Scrapwood"?
We tiled the master bath with tile of a similar style and that was the name. Color is a more weathered gray on ours.
When I decided to finish the basement and make it into a game room, the first new purchase was my Valley Cougar pool table. Sadly it rarely gets used compared with the pins and other games, but I hope for the day it gets played more.
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Ended up with a Brunswick 4X8 that fit perfect in my dining room.
Best part is it isn’t taking up space in the game room.
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Nice table seems you had a felt color change between photos. 
Is it a 7 or 8 footer?
Quoted from KozMckPinball:Anyone have a gameroom pool table? What table size?
The three most common "regulation size" tables:
Seven foot - Playing area 39" x 78" - Tend to generate tighter ball clusters and can force more strategic play as a result. Will be the size of most coin-op tables you see in bars. Usually referred to as "bar size" tables as a result.
Eight foot - Playing area 44" x 88" - Good happy medium size, this is the most common size for home purchase. Younger kids and shorter adults will start to have a problem on some longer reach shots that start to become more common.
Nine foot - Playing area 50" x 100" - The main pro tournament size. Games tend to "open up" a lot more, forcing players to be better at shooting and ball control, often across longer distances. The larger size will be an increased issue for shorter people having to practically lay on the table to reach some shots.
If you haven't done it already, I suggest cutting some cardboard or use painter's tape, to lay out the play area on your basement floor for the size table you are interested in purchasing. This is important since you need a minimum of 56" of space above and beyond the playing area of the table, on all four sides, to avoid obstructed shots or having to use a shorter cue.
Quoted from KozMckPinball:Felt color?
Supposedly, tan or gray gives the best ball views, traditional green is easiest on the eyes, and red causes the most eye strain. It's really preference though. Whatever color you choose, spring for worsted wool if it's an option and get chalk that matches the color.
Quoted from KozMckPinball:Any recommendations on getting it in the basement? The coin op table I am considering weighs 700 or 900 lbs, single piece of slate. I assume it would be transported to the basement as slate only and then the rest of it? Out-source that? Thanks!
Hire someone reputable to do it for you. They will bring it down in pieces and assemble in your basement, do all the leveling, etc. Will cost somewhere around $500 and will be worth every penny.
Have you looked into buying a used table? Like exercise equipment, the resale value on pool tables is horrible. It will cost a little more for a tear-down above just an install, but I'd bet there are a lot of nearby slate tables you can get for under $1,000. If you are patient and wait for a good deal you might be able to find a good slate table for $500. Even if you have to replace the table felt you will likely come out money ahead over buying new.
I shoot in a weekly APA pool league. So my table actually gets played along with my pins. I own a Brunswick Bradford II table. Just had the basement carpet ripped out last week and laminate flooring put down, which required me to tear down the pool table in order to move it. The felt was about 9-10 years old and needed to be replaced, so I have a guy coming on Thursday to install competition Simonis 860 Royal Blue felt.
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The first picture is with the cover still on actually. On top of the cover I have a flag that actually flew at the 2016 Ryder Cup which I actually worked at when it was at Hazeltine. The second picture is with the cover off showing the red felt that came with the table when I bought it. It is a 7 footer. 1 piece 1” slate. The coin mech still works but has been setup for free play.
Quoted from TimBoch:The first picture is with the cover still on actually. On top of the cover I have a flag that actually flew at the 2016 Ryder Cup which I actually worked at when it was at Hazeltine. The second picture is with the cover off showing the red felt that came with the table when I bought it. It is a 7 footer. 1 piece 1” slate. The coin mech still works but has been setup for free play.
OK. It looked to be like the rails were blue in that first picture. Looks good either way!
Guy is putting the finishes touches on recovering my table with Simonis 860 Royal Blue Looking great!!
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CFAD2932-AA43-4975-AA53-BEB718BBD2DF (resized).jpegQuoted from djreddog:Guy is putting the finishes touches on recovering my table with Simonis 860 Royal Blue Looking great!!
Nice! New billiard table cloth is a good thing.
Quoted from investingdad:I like the tile floor.
Any chance it's "Scrapwood"?
We tiled the master bath with tile of a similar style and that was the name. Color is a more weathered gray on ours.
Thanks! Its actually vinyl...
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