I would go with TOTAN (I own it) since lack of depth seems to be the biggest gripe that people have with it. Here is an old thread seeking advice on how to improve the ruleset.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/totan-is-%e2%80%9coverrated-and-too-easy%e2%80%9d-so-how-would-you-have-programmed-it

My suggestions were:
1. Make Harem multiball easier to get (maybe two letters awarded when hitting the left orbit while in lightning lamp?) and add it as one of the Bazaar awards. I find it easier to beat the genie than to get Harem multiball.

2. Enable a setting to disable jewel wishes or require two/three wishes to get a jewel.

3. Require more than one hit (at least 5?) to the orbs before being able to collect the cyclops jewel.

4. Require more than hit (at least 10?) to the pops before being able to collect the sinbad jewel.

5. Successfully throw a fireball at the genie in order to light start tale.

I can't think of any rules at this point, but making the gophers ruder would be funny. Maybe fix the light shows too. Add some sort of second wizard mode for the 18th hole? Maybe sneak in some Caddyshack quotes.

NGG is the clear winner!

Great layout, timeless theme, only lacking in overall ruleset and the buggy stuff.

A few small tweaks could make it a keeper for many.

Oh PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do Gofers!

Very appealing layout with the interactive gophers that people just love to smash! There is such a wide variety of shots to get creative with! (captive ball, ramps, hole with kickout to the pops, slam ramp, stand ups, wheel awards, loops, gophers up, gophers down, gophers down with ramps up, drives, sand traps...)

The "roadblock" multiball really detracts from the chance to get through the holes.

...Besides, who wouldn't want to tweak an already great Lawlor layout!?!

Thank you.

Yes I am alone on this. Dwho could be epic. NGG with a little callout work could be amazing as well.

Though it is not on your list at this point, I think that Wheel of Fortune would benefit greatly from a new set of rules. WOF has inserts on the playfield that do not light.

Another game that could be greatly improved with very minor tweeks would be Gilligans Island. Balance scoring a little bit and add an earned multiball.

I applaud you for improving games that already exist. For the record, I do not own either of the above games.

Best regards,

Tom

Edit: WOF game code is so bad, that completing it would be EPIC. IMHO, you could increase the value of every WOF by at least $500.

I don't even own NGG and I want you to do it. Opportunity to make a good game great.

Chris

How about Bride of Pinbot using a DMD?

I have TOTAN. To bad you are not in Colorado. I would loan it to you. And you loan me Iron Man. Oh well good luck . Keep me in your loop. 100_0046.JPG

I think totan needs it the most because it is a fantastic looking machine that needs an updated rule set to match.

TOTAN.

TOTAN software is unique and pretty good.

I'd say theater of magic. It has a horrible not even multiball wizard mode. The trunk needs work (shuts itself off too easily when it should just try again). The hocus pocus magnets fail often and there's no ball saver like when the cages fail on TOTAN. If you can get this to the point where it plays now or even help me get it there is be happy to do some of the software work on it.

totan great game, if you could add another wizard mode, or more like cv, would be even better.. not sure you could even save tom

If you think of doing a pre-DMD game, I'd hope for F-14. Very shallow rules that wouldn't be hard to change up, so you work the field better and lock balls in different ways. Top tomcat targets for one ball, lower ones for second.....

NGG

Yesss! ToM has pretty crappy rules and the ball save on magnets is crap!

theatre needs multiball for grand finale.....

Iv actually never played, although I played a golf game 2 years ago at MGC but it may have been teed off. Cant remember.

I do want a NGG someday...Theme is killer

Can't go wrong with any of the top three - NGG, TOM, or TOTAN would all be good choices.

http://www.dutchpinball.com/

I would say gophers number 1 or theater of magic number 2.

Another vote for No Good Gofers here. I think the game is ripe for some updated rules. There's a few minor scoring bugs that can be ironed out in it. And I really think a different/better wizard mode after 18 holes would liven it up a ton.

Depending on how deep you'd be willing to get, I thought the different courses they put in could offer up different features. I believe now they cycle through a few course names and they don't change anything. What if each course played differently? For instance, short circuit takes place at hole 7 and 14. On some courses it could start at 4, or maybe not at all. Maybe the amount of drives it takes before being allowed to putt out changes based on the course. Seems to be a lot of different ways to differentiate the courses.

With that, you can either allow the player to choose which course they want to play before a game, or just have it cycle randomly/daily. Let it track the high score for each particular course too. Similar to how each song in AC/DC has it's own high score.

Those are just some thoughts. While there are other games with scoring issues that can be fixed, I think Gofers offers the best chance to really take the game to another level. More advanced scoring and a wizard mode worth getting to.

ToM... fix the left loop all day strategy.

I reckon TOTAN. I like the rules but it needs to be harder.

Totan rules suck, the final is lame, the jewels are lame in allowing you to easily skip through to the final.

I wasn't aware ngg had rule issues, glad I know as I may not get one now.

What about MB? That machine is more less the layout of Lotr with the depth of a good EM.

Flash. Pharoah. Buck Rogers.

HS2, if only so you can come up with a fix for the ramp lifting or not lifting when it should - so annoying.
It's also such a shallow game that after less than a week I wanted to get rid of it, nothing much has changed my mind since!

+1 TOTAN

Only thing NGG suffers from is shallow rule set.....+1 for the gophers. Could be awesome

ToM could use a ton of enhanced rules.....especially the wizard mode

Hollywood Heat, wait, nevermind, game is perfect.

+1 for NGG, good game, could be a great game with tweaks.

+1 TOTAN......but wouldn't mind NGG either

Lawlor pins need some rule loving, badly... If you can add some great modern sound and great rules I'd love to have these themes.

RCT
Monopoly
Nascar
RBION fix the run away scoring bug

I voted for T2, because I own one!

I'm in NJ and have a TOTAN I'd be willing to trade out while you work on the code. Any idea how long you would need the machine for?

I contacted PinballDreams which was the company producing that, and they have closed the business.

I think rom swap custom rules for a DMD equipped BoP would be extremely popular, and it should work with freeWPC since it uses an early version of the WPC board.

My second choice would be T2, for no other reason than it would be the one pin from the list that I might buy someday.

NGG as I own that one and it is very close to being epic. Maybe fix the bugs, add a few modes and an 18th hole wizard mode. Just don't dilute the frenzied mayhem that makes it such a blast!

T2....make the game deeper. It seems to be all skull based and I get a little bored of it at times. Then I have a cocktail and Im back at it! Seriously though, a lot of people have T2, would be good for you financially and would serve a large base.

NGG +1, plus add the video mode that never made it

Judge Dredd. One of the best layouts of all time honestly. Great shots. So many of them have no use or point tho without proper rules.

You can keep looping and hitting shots with the upper two flippers without coming to the lower playfield for good amounts of time and its all pointless really. Blackout ramp on upper is used one time in one mode for one shot.

There is so much more that can be added to the game rule wise alone. Not just modifying rules like the other games suggested n

Oh and the wizard mode is boring as hell. Multiball and every crime scene shot is out for 10 million. No advancing or changing anything and no ending. So boring.

-Jim

Is DM a P-ROC add-on mod? Or directly modded ROMs?