Just going off your overreactions here.....Maybe your real life face to face pinball friends tell you what they know you want to hear and not their true opinion.

Nevermind

I personally believe slide saving is and has always been a part of pinball and is part of the original intent by designers the same way that nudging is in my opinion. Both of these actions “move the goal posts”. If you nudge the game you are essentially moving the game as well. I mean the feet are smooth surfaces made of metal and promote sliding. I feel if it wasn’t the intent then we would have seen rubberized surfaces from the manufacturers preventing slide slaves.

Now let me define what I mean by slide saving.

I’m not talking about manhandling the game quickly and shoving it 6+” to one side with brute force and receiving a tilt warning but debounce prevents the full tilt from happening.

What I am saying is slowly moving the front of the game using your strength in a slow smooth methodical way (gentle if you will) as to not upset the tilt bob causing a tilt. I learned how to slide the game this way so that straight down the middle balls could be hit with the tip of the flipper. I learned this when I was 10 years old and I promise you the stresses of doing this would never harm a game.

There is a distinct difference to the above slides. So what should be allowed? Doesn’t really matter to me as I am not a competitive player and just enjoy pinball.

1980 Bally frontier is where I learned to slide save with fairly tight tilts. No warnings on that game and if done incorrectly resulted in a tilt.