$5

I have no intention of buying one, so take this for what it's worth...but I would start thinking of buying one at around 4000

Honestly the ship has sailed. I was all in for the theme until I found out it was TS4 and carni themed. Dont get me wrong, I love TS4, but not in the same way as the other 3 movies. And it was a price I just couldn’t stomach. Had it been the story of Woody and his transcendent trip to finally reunite with his lost love, then I might have gone for it. But not this circus act. If it came out at the same price as GnR and had 3 tiers, it would have sold much better. As it is, I find the game fun, even if some sounds are annoying, and would buy one around 7K for an LE.

The Jurassic Park home pin is better...by a LARGE margin

I would agree with this. Much better value

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ended-toy-story-4-le#post-7226876

As a buyer of pinball machines and not a maker, distributor, or flipper, I want them as low as possible.

I dont see how anyone would buy Toy Story over any other available pin. Most don't care about the theme and those that do seem very disappointed and cheated. Everything about it is underwhelming, especially for a jjp pin. I think most that bought it were poor suckers that got in on it too early, before realizing how bad it was. And lot of them were probably flippers who are trying to get rid of it now at a loss or holding on to it hoping it will do a potc and gain new interest in the future. But potc is packed with toys and code and feels luxurious while Toy story is the complete opposite. It's like the jjp version of a home pin, only at prices straight from fantasy land. WHAT are they smoking over at jjp?

Has a license ever been so mishandled as what JJP did with Toy Story?

Even if one has, hopefully it wasn't priced so nuts....

I know Beatles was crazy expensive, but I think they had no choice but to go with early Beatles? (as part of the license restriction)

Now there is an interesting comparison. Someone should do a poll - if priced the same, would you buy Beatles or Toy Story? Personally, I'd buy the Beatles. At 9k before I put 9k on TS, and I've played a fair bit of both.

I think in regards to what they put in the game, they should sell it at 7K.
If the same effort and stuff in it as pirates or woz, then they can sell at 10.5K

If Pinside ran JJP they’d be tits up in a month.

But they’d sell a lot of $7,000 Toy Story games first!

I think they are well on their way without our assistance.

I’d probably would be in for one at $9k

Not the case at all. What you would see is a company that is passionate about their product, which is competitively priced, that resonates with the general buying public.

I care about JJP’s viability about as much as they care about my ability to pay my mortgage. Build good machines that people want to buy at the right price or fold. Create a vacuum for someone else to give pinball a go. Or not. Doesn’t really matter. There are a lot of options in pinball right now.

If they keep trying to sell 5k worth of stuff for 12k, they will also be tits up. We are trying to figure out a happy medium for everyone.

Lethal Weapon 3? Kind of kidding as games weren’t sold for near as much or to home buyers back then but…
It’s a fun shooting game, rules are pretty good for 1992 being able to stack Uzi modes, movie scenes, multiball jackpots and various hurry ups all at once.
This game was a hard sell for a long time on the second hand market and only recently became more appreciated. I think a big part of that is the big 3 on the translite. The game actually uses stuff from all 3 movies, but if it would have been themed to the original that everyone liked better I don’t think it would have taken so long.
Also, same layout but themed to Die Hard and it would probably be as sought after as Terminator 2.

I agree jp home pin is super fun

Other than CGC cutting price on AFM has any modern manufacturer cut prices on pins?

They are delusional at a 12k price point. Certainly is a marketing blunder for them.

I put in a deposit on launch day, I’ve yet to pay in full, I’m so disappointed. I may not follow through with the purchase and let it go. Wish I could get my deposit back

Have you played it? I think it is fun…. But a bit iverpriced

As Jack reminded us years ago:

“If you ain’t broke, it ain’t pinball.”

$12k CE
$9500 LE

I really think Bond LE is a flop as well. I’ve had several offer me one for no mark-up and I gladly passed. Maybe a Keith pin could pull $13k but I’m not seeing that for Bond. But Lonnie on rules, uninspired layout with rockey ship area not feeling that price.

Wonka dropped to 7500 I believe.

Edit: Stern is a little trickier with "Street price" but MSRP dropped after 2017 for for a couple years..."technically."

IDK, the game blow chunks, so for me to get one it would have to be pretty cheap. 5k I might think about it. maybe. nah IDK

I played TS4 at Expo and I haven't been that bored playing a pinball machine since Star Wars Ep 1. I'm sure it would be a little better in a nicer environment but, boy oh boy was it a snoozer. Jump ramp wasn't even cool. It would be nice as maybe a secondary toy or something, I guess, but main centerpiece? No way!

I wonder if JJP can shift over to doing a TS4 SE at around 8k...? What could they strip from it to bring it down?

Strip away the ego and they realize it’s an $8500-9500 standard at best

They tell us that they didn't make an SE model, and I think the didn't make a CE, but someone up top forgot to tell the pricing team.

Dammmmn that's dirty!

That was that price on release.
I believe Hobbit was Pre-order priced @ $6500, then 7k at release?
DI was 8k, Wonka 7.5.