They've gone down hill, IMO. I bought a TSPP nib in 2003 and its had virtually no issues and no adjustments needed. The machine is very solid and feels like a lot of quality went into it. For the avengers, it's been a disappointment. Ive had to make numerous adjustments and repair a broken wire,and the plastics feel super cheap. Oh yeah, I have never had a ball get stuck on TSPP,ever,but happens often on avengers. I've had the glass off and PF up on avengers more in three weeks than I have had it up on tspp in 10 years. Avengers is still a great game and I think all the kinks have been worked out, but stern can and should do better.

Stern quality from 2003 and 2004 was outstanding...TSPP and lotr are proof of that. Something started changing in the past couple of years. Maybe its because times are tough, sales were down and margins were pressured that they had to find a way to make it work. Their customer service is great...maybe they will get the messages these boards are conveying.

Agreed, they are thinner, much more flex. The plastic going up the shooter lane is very thin and it flexes when ball bounces off it. The Loki lock display and the plastic ship near HE ramp also flimsy. No question the quality is lower here. Everything else seems fine, and i am in no way bashing stern, just stating the obvious...I absolutely love the game!