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Poll: RUSH (the band) Pinball Machine


By LukyDuck

81 days ago



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    “Poll: RUSH (the band) Pinball Machine”

    • I would be interested in a RUSH (the band) pinball machine!!! 125 votes
      42%
    • I am not interested in this theme. 174 votes
      58%

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    #151 74 days ago
    Quoted from tscottn:

    well I guess everyone has a opinion.. but sorry yours is wrong.. Rush's first album was just ok, but after Rutsey was replaced with Peart ( for creative reasons as Rutsey just did not have the chops nor was he at the level of musicianship that Ged and Alex was at that time) the band really shined.. 2112 is considered one of their greatest albums, if not just for the sheer scale of the work, but the broad echoism of Ayn Rand that Peart brought to the lyrics.. Without Peart there would be no Moving Pictures,( Tom Sawyer, YYZ, etc) No Hemispheres, ( Book I II, Cygnus X-1, the Trees, La Villa ) and the list goes on and on and on. If you consider their first album to be their best work then im sorry my friend you are hugely mistaken in this area.
    But Like I said, everyone is entitled to a opinion.

    Rutsey quit, he was not directly replaced by Peart for quite a while. He quit because he had diabetes, and was realizing he would be unable to manage it on the road. They added Peart months later - it was nothing to do directly with his skill level, although once Neil joined, I'm sure they realized what they'd been missing.

    The Ayn Rand-ish stuff is an unfortunate chapter in Peart's grand book of lyrics. He always maintained it was not an intentional rip-off or homage of anything specific of hers (though clearly they were reading her stuff at the time - hello, "Anthem"!), but in later years he is on record as being regretful that he and the band were ever associated with her nonsense.

    #152 74 days ago

    I would definitely be in for a Rush pin. I have always gravitated towards the original material Fly by Night, Caress of Steel, 2112, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures. But I dropped off after Moving apictures because of the change towards more synthesizers. Going back to it now, they did find their groove a couple albums in after that. And there's some very good material. Overall a Rush pin would be a great idea. Tons of fanbase and a plethora of musical choices and themes to go with it.

    #153 74 days ago
    Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

    Rutsey quit, he was not directly replaced by Peart for quite a while. He quit because he had diabetes, and was realizing he would be unable to manage it on the road. They added Peart months later - it was nothing to do directly with his skill level, although once Neil joined, I'm sure they realized what they'd been missing.
    The Ayn Rand-ish stuff is an unfortunate chapter in Peart's grand book of lyrics. He always maintained it was not an intentional rip-off or homage of anything specific of hers (though clearly they were reading her stuff at the time - hello, "Anthem"!), but in later years he is on record as being regretful that he and the band were ever associated with her nonsense.

    I would ask you to watch one of the many documentary already made about Rush and how Rutsey was asked to leave the band due to many reasons, (health being the one of them) But no one can deny that Alex and Geddys musical prowess was well beyond what Rutsey was capable of. They knew that if John stayed their music would suffer greatly. here is just one clip..

    Also, you have to realize that Rush is Canadian and as such they are extremely polite ( and they are just nice people too) and do not want to disparage John and his abilities in any way, that would be like pouring salt on a already open wound. So of course they will site " health" as the obvious issue, but every true rush fan knows that Johns ability was not up to snuff..

    I heard a quote one time that someone close to the band said John was dumbfounded when he first heard the riff to Anthem.. That most likely set the wheels in motion to replace John.

    Also, can you point me to any specific rush quotes as them being regretful towards the Ayn Rand influences? I think one thing about Rush is that they have always evolved and never looked back to what they have done in the past. I've never heard Neil say he regretted reading the works of Rand, I think he reads a absorbent amount of stuff and takes everything with a grain of salt. He is a super smart guy with a big brain for sure.

    #154 74 days ago
    Quoted from tscottn:

    I would ask you to watch one of the many documentary already made about Rush and how Rutsey was asked to leave the band due to many reasons, (health being the one of them) But no one can deny that Alex and Geddys musical prowess was well beyond what Rutsey was capable of. They knew that if John stayed their music would suffer greatly. here is just one clip..
    Also, you have to realize that Rush is Canadian and as such they are extremely polite ( and they are just nice people too) and do not want to disparage John and his abilities in any way, that would be like pouring salt on a already open wound. So of course they will site " health" as the obvious issue, but every true rush fan knows that Johns ability was not up to snuff..
    I heard a quote one time that someone close to the band said John was dumbfounded when he first heard the riff to Anthem.. That most likely set the wheels in motion to replace John.

    Also, can you point me to any specific rush quotes as them being regretful towards the Ayn Rand influences? I think one thing about Rush is that they have always evolved and never looked back to what they have done in the past. I've never heard Neil say he regretted reading the works of Rand, I think he reads a absorbent amount of stuff and takes everything with a grain of salt. He is a super smart guy with a big brain for sure.

    Whatever you say

    Here’s an example of Neil evolving from his past views:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/qa-neil-peart-on-rushs-new-lp-and-being-a-bleeding-heart-libertarian-248712/

    #155 74 days ago
    Quoted from Gatecrasher:

    If I were to get a Rush pinball machine I'd want the song selection to be primarily drawn from their 1st album.
    I remember when Rush' iconic debut album was released in 1974. I was 14 years old and was riding in the back seat of my best friend's big brother's 1967 Buick Skylark when "In The Mood" came on the radio. It was all fresh and the 1st time we had heard of Rush.
    We drove right down to the mall and I bought the 8-track tape and played the living crap out of it.
    As far as I'm concerned their 1st album was by-far their best. I remember when 2112 came out. Still OK but not the same raw edge that their 1st album had.
    You can say the same about a lot of great bands. They had their entire lives to come up with the material on their debut album.[quoted image]

    Did Neil run over your dog or something? While I appreciate ALL rush albums I bet you are a 1% majority that thinks the debut album is their best work. But that's the beautiful thing about music, its art, its subjective, and we all find things that connect and take hold of us.

    #156 74 days ago

    so If your referring to this little passage from the interview, I think your taking it way out of context..

    "Rolling Stone - This is somewhat random, but you were interested in the writings of Ayn Rand decades ago. Do her words still speak to you?

    Neil Peart - Oh, no. That was 40 years ago. But it was important to me at the time in a transition of finding myself and having faith that what I believed was worthwhile."

    All Neil says is that the words of Ayn Rand dont really speak to him anymore but they were important to him at the time.. so Im not sure what your getting at.. I did not read any sense of regret into that statement at all.. In fact he goes on to say that while it was important to him at the time, it helped create a foundation for what Rush was to become.

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