if your making a poll, don't forget the option of , never got on the preorder to begin with.

still in - no second thoughts here

Nice of someone to have the courage to post this question... AGAIN

I think a poll on why you were never on board, or why you jumped ship, would be more useful, than a poll stating who did or didn't. If you want it to be effective at all.

Same with JJP. If you just tell him your not buying Hobbit. You should let him know why, so when he's struggling, he can do things to improve why the orders are dropping.

If you never pre-ordered MMR, the way this poll is set up you have no current status to declare. Certain people like to clog every single thread about MMr with posts noting their dislike for it. None of those people need vote in this poll, because they never pre-ordered MMr.

nobody cares about people who were never in in the first place.

But the poll would be more useful on why they are not buying. If your doing a marketing sample. You want to know the reason someone is not buying, more so than who is not buying. This poll gives nothing to the manufacturer, to improve this or that. Where a poll on why, gives them info to go with.

the poll wants to know the percentage of people who bought cancelled their order. if you want to do a market analysis of why people didn't buy the game in the first place, go for it. that's not what this is.

i know what this poll is...that's why i'm saying his poll would have been more useful knowing why instead of who.

Dropped out when I bought a nice original mm.

What about "Still in, but weighing it against games already in my collection"? Does that count as option #3?

So this is a poll to find out how many people are compulsive buyers. gotcha. Now I see what the poll is trying to figure out.

I dropped out and got a minty fresh LOTR.

Anyone who has dropped out to this point never wanted it to begin with. Lots of people just jumped on the band wagon, some wanted to flip, some knew they weren't going to buy but put money down just in case etc.

I can say this because at this moment, the deposits aren't final and we are far from having all the information. Above what was given at expo, we have very little aditional info.

If you were serious, there is absolutely no reason to cancel now. There are a couple exceptions, like people who bought originals, but for the most part, with no money locked it and lots of info still to come, the time to cancel hasn't happened yet.

yes, I really do think people saw $$$ instead of the game itself. Thinking it was limited to 1000. Once it wasn't limited, then there were a lot of pullouts.

That's it. When it was first announced, it was 1k units for 8k. Now that its unlimited units for 8k with months to think it over. Enough time for people realize that there is a lot of room to the downside when your talking 8k and your going to take it on the chin if you sell it. I'm not saying this hobby is or should be an investment but, that thought is still there for many people nonetheless.

Not true. I do not have unlimited funds and I haven't purchased NIB for several years, so the recent rise in prices to $8K for an LE is sticker shock to me. But I have long considered MM to be the best game I don't already have and I can afford to buy one - and only one - NIB pin at the current high prices. So I pre-ordered MMrLE knowing that I could have gone for WOZ or TH instead for about the same money. And if Stern's next game had been The Walking Dead (like some here would like it to be) I would still be in for MMrLE. But Stern's next game is Mustang, which links two of my biggest hobbies. Once I saw enough about it to determine that a NIB Mustang Premium would appeal to me more than MMrLE, I cancelled in order to let someone on the MM standard list get moved up to a MMrLE reservation. Not that I think Stern Mustang will ever rank above MM, but it will fit better in my personal collection because of my Shelby GT500 and two SVT Cobras (plus my wife's 2013 Mustang GT).

I disagree. I was in until I saw the most cherry LOTR in the world. I've had my eye on an LOTR for a while but hadn't stumbled across one local until this one. So I weighed the pros and cons and decided I better jump on this condition LOTR now since I have the dough, I can always get MMR later.

Preordered from jack. Have an original but thought the remake would be better. Asked for money back when I saw the pics of back box and the underneath of the playfield. Jack sent money back quickly with no questions asked. I guess I'm sticking with the original. Also thought of using it as trade bait but I'm maxed out so that didn't make sense either.

Jumping ship? Dropping out? Huh? No way. Waited long enough to own MM. Peace.

I wish I hadn't had to get out, but I decided one NIB a year is sufficient, and used the down as the January payment on my Hobbit.

It's becoming more and more clear that these will be around to pick up at a later date, so it's not like I'm dooming myself to never having a MM. It has even already started modulating the price of the original, so that option becomes more realistic as well.

I do not need a poll question added to tell me that CaptainNeo is not buying something because it cost more than $3500.

Just on PPS sitewe have a couple of people a day wanting to drop in, so I think especially after we bring some games to TPF which we are shooting for, then there will be additional people wanting the game. Also there are additional 'perks' that we are working on for the LE owners ... the person starting this post is obviously got an agenda ... as often is the case.

Why does someone have to have an agenda to ask a question. I am still in for an LE, at this point, but I also wonder how many people may have decided not to go through with purchasing! As some folks stated already, I think when this was announced a lot of people were surprised and said I gotta get in on this. They signed up and then said "oh sh*t I don't have the money" or "I would prefer to get another machine (i.e. the chap that went for the LOTR). Just cuz someone bails on the MMr or wants to know if others have doesn't mean they have an agenda!

Of course now that I say that you will probably tell me that the OP is an ex business partners of your's or something else to prove my statement to be completely wrong

I am failing to see what the agenda is here... Please explain...

Yeah, proclaiming an agenda is a touch dramatic.

Calling Rick dramatic means you have an agenda too....

I could always just put this line of humor on the bottom of the stack of my projects, if you don't like it.

Because it's a stupid question. "How many people have dropped out?" What does that even mean? Why does the OP care? It's obvious that there is no way to find any sort of accurate answer, short of just causing trouble, what exactly is the point?

The OP might (MIGHT) be trying to stir the MMR pot that's been stirred enough.

Oh yeah the TPF I can't wait for the best show ever.What kind of
perks are we talking about,Rick?

I'm always there for MM,the game is very nice,gameplay funny and now MM is no more trophy

Seems like a fair discussion point. And Rick should not be offended. Like he pointed out there are folks who want spots. Heck 800 could drop out and 900 could want in. It means nothing about the success but tells much about why folks jumped in and what made them jump out.
Normally that should be a discussion we are capable of, but of course it is Pinside...

Yes, heaven forbid people start actually being sensible with their purchases.

Zero reason to stay in unless you absolutely have to have the brass/gold trim and a shaker motor from what I understand. And yes people..I know close to nothing. These MMr's will be readily available to any and all in a few years. I'll be very happy to save a few G's and pick up a nice HUO eventually. Patience is a virtue. What do I know...The only true knowledge is knowing you know nothing.

You will save this lousy planet, one wallet at a time, Cap. Keep plugin' away.

I get that there are people out there, who since first throwing their $1K down, found something they would rather have. I stand by my comment though, if finding a nice LOTR or deciding on the next NIB Stern was enough to have you cancel your pre-order, you weren't really all that committed to begin with.

For those of use who truly want an MM and who are unsure, there is absolutely no reason to cancel at this time.

After the games are out there, and after all the info is out there, then at least I can see a reason.

I guess I just don't throw $1K at something I'm not at least relatively sure of. I'm sure just about every person who put their $1K down realised games would come up that they wanted in the 8 or so months between paying and getting a game, I just don't understand why those people put down money at all.

LE perks! No way I am dropping out.

I have heard that the remakes are killing the HE restore business on MM , as well as other titles. Hate that for the guys in the business.

It's already been confirmed that this is not true. Unless you're being sarcastic, I can't tell.

I have had 2 people jump in and one on the edge of the pool putting his toe in!

MM has been the best game I don't already have for years, during which time all kinds of very good games have come out (LOTR and WOZ, for example). But in all that time no games were made which I would prefer over MM. I felt lucky to get in on MMrLE from PPS and looked for some way to try to afford both MMrLE and Mustang Premium when the later was announced. But after the cost of complete furnace and A/C replacement just before winter (which I am now sure glad to have done after going through this brutal winter) and another unexpected $2500 expense, I am lucky to be able to afford just one NIB game period. MM is still one of the very best all-time and I'm positive that Stern Mustang Premium will be nowhere near as good. But I own Stern Playboy because of my extensive Playboy collection and I own WHOdunnit? because of my hobby of reading and collecting mystery novels published in Australia over fifty years ago, and Stern Mustang fits because it connects my pinball hobby with my car collection (three Mustangs and a Camaro ZL1). MM is way better than any of those three games and I would not expect anyone other than me to prefer any of them over MM. Fortunately, already owning BBB and MB and AFM and SS and TZ and IJ and TOM and CFTBL (all purchased years ago) will console me somewhat about not being able to also afford both MMrLE and Mustang. It'll be tough, but I'll get by somehow.

Not sure why I read all these posts. Exiting now quietly...

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Dropping out or not is somewhat a moot point since not one person has committed money i.e. it's a refundable deposit. Should be interesting to see the availability of the MMrLEs are once the deposits become nonrefundable. I think it's a good poll.

Show off!

And no one has dropped?