If you're buying a machine, any age/make, that has/had no playfield wear or touch-ups, would you prefer that it is clearcoated or no? Assume the clearcoat is fresh, free, and "looks good".
If you're buying a machine, any age/make, that has/had no playfield wear or touch-ups, would you prefer that it is clearcoated or no? Assume the clearcoat is fresh, free, and "looks good".
Quoted from Shapeshifter:On the subject - how long after the clear coat should they be played?
You cannot populate the playfield until the clear has completely cured. You could play it immediately after that though.
Quoted from Mr68:You cannot populate the playfield until the clear has completely cured. You could play it immediately after that though.
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How long does curing take? Heard various answers. 30 -45 days?
Wait three weeks before putting anything back on the playfield. It takes the urethane about that to fully cure.
Quoted from Allibaster:This is like a poll on bacon.
or "Do you enjoy having sex?"
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Quoted from Allibaster:This is like a poll on bacon.
Have you ever played a game that had too much clear on the playfield? I have. It's like playing on glass rather than plywood. The ball gets very little traction. Sure, the playfield gleams, but the game plays like ass.
Like bacon, too much of a good thing isn't always good. Add a couple of coats if you must, but don't get carried away or you could ruin your game.
I was told by a couple folks not to clearcoat a playfield, because it makes the ball "squirly" - anyone else have this opinion? I still don't understand why re-clearing would cause strange ball movement. As the topic was my STTNG, and it was originally clearcoated by TAG before being placed in the machine by Williams. The clearcoat that TAG, and others like Sun Process, etc, used is essentially (I think) a similar 2 part automotive clear as is mainly used to re-clear a playfield.
After my interweb-reading, I felt that there shouldn't be any worry to re-clearing, as long as it's done well, and cured properly, it seems to be an excellent means to preserving a playfield.
In case you haven't seen this webpage on playfields, it has a lot of good historical information http://www.flippers.be/pinball_playfields.html .
I was researching because I had some Neutral Zone wear on the original playfield, and wanted to repair and clear it to start fresh. I ended up finding an NOS playfield, originally screened and cleared by SP, and then re-cleared by HSA - it's a beautiful thing - although I'm not sure the attached photo is doing it any justice.
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Quoted from phishrace:Have you ever played a game that had too much clear on the playfield? I have. It's like playing on glass rather than plywood. The ball gets very little traction. Sure, the playfield gleams, but the game plays like ass.
Like bacon, too much of a good thing isn't always good. Add a couple of coats if you must, but don't get carried away or you could ruin your game.
Of course I hit send asking for that opinion - and it was just posted a second earlier! Why do you think the ball reacts differently after too many coats versus just the original coat?
Quoted from CaryCarmichael:Why do you think the ball reacts differently after too many coats versus just the original coat?
The clear is harder than the plywood. The more clear you put on, the harder it gets. If you can imagine playing on glass, that's kinda what it's like. Most guys like to wax too, which makes it even worse.
Quoted from CaryCarmichael:I was researching because I had some Neutral Zone wear on the original playfield, and wanted to repair and clear it to start fresh.
If you're doing repair or touchup (not using a sharpie), then sure, clearing is a great idea for a number of reasons. Have you asked Gary at Bobcat how many coats he typically applies? I want to say two?
Quoted from CaryCarmichael:I was told by a couple folks not to clearcoat a playfield, because it makes the ball "squirly" - anyone else have this opinion? I still don't understand why re-clearing would cause strange ball movement. As the topic was my STTNG, and it was originally clearcoated by TAG before being placed in the machine by Williams. The clearcoat that TAG, and others like Sun Process, etc, used is essentially (I think) a similar 2 part automotive clear as is mainly used to re-clear a playfield.
After my interweb-reading, I felt that there shouldn't be any worry to re-clearing, as long as it's done well, and cured properly, it seems to be an excellent means to preserving a playfield.
In case you haven't seen this webpage on playfields, it has a lot of good historical information http://www.flippers.be/pinball_playfields.html .
I was researching because I had some Neutral Zone wear on the original playfield, and wanted to repair and clear it to start fresh. I ended up finding an NOS playfield, originally screened and cleared by SP, and then re-cleared by HSA - it's a beautiful thing - although I'm not sure the attached photo is doing it any justice.IMG_6818.jpg 201 KB
i kinda like "squirly"- so i clear for wear res & flatness and wax for a lack of traction........
the only time i would never prefer a cleared pf- if i had a "pristine" classic game that was perfect and did not come cleared as org. then i might not prefer cleared, but i still know it would be better at the fun factor if it was cleared.
should be noted- i have never owed a prirstine game.
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