Same here, I said I wouldn't buy another remake after my experience, but if they came out with a BBBr I would be all over that.

Debuting at Pinfest?

This is not the thread for that. To me the build quality didn't live up to the hype and I will leave it at that. For me I'd rather have an original.

I pretty much preferenced that it was not for me. I am glad that you are happy with your purchases. That's great, it really is. I am glad that these were made and allowed folks the opportunity to own one of these amazing titles. Had it not been for the remakes I never would have been able to purchase an MM and MB and later an MBr.

Again, for the money, I would rather have an original. I didn't see enough difference in the tech, but I did in the materials used from the metals to the wood. That is what is important to me, as the quality of materials is directly related to the longevity of the machine. We all have different expectations, needs and wants and it's all ok.

If they drop a BBBr, they will have my money in a heartbeat.

Hahahaha I know that feeling. I would assume licensing for something

Exactly! I am not sure how they pulled MBr off with Universal, but licesning would be the big issue for TAF

With Addams they used the movie actors and actresses likenesses, so they often have the rights to approve or turn down projects. With universal it was just their intellectual property.

Too many variables to give you an average. For example IP value, IP holders, production numbers, application, etc all play a role in determining a price.

There are two camps, but I agree with this. My MBr PF looks like a minefield after less than 1500 plays and those dimples will turn into flaked paint and all of this digital printing you see elsewhere is exploding on contact after a few plays. Let's see what they look like after a year or two. It's why I stopped buying CPR pfs.

As I noted before, we all have different expectations, needs, wants out of a machine. My MBr was my first "new" machine. I haven't played a ton of the newer games and those I have (Stern), I have not liked because they feel cheap to me. There was a lot of hype surrounding CGC, so I went with them versus another original. I felt let down b/c the quality of the wood and metals is sub par.

I had no idea there was a 90 year old grandpa residing in this middle aged woman's body screaming bout the good o'l days where dimples were few and far and ink adhered to the playfields and to get off my lawn, but here we are. While I cling to times of pinball past I think this post nails it, we simply do not have the quality of raw goods they did then, and if Williams was still in business this is what they would be putting out.

Anyhoo, it actually change my point of view a good bit. I have no idea what CGC is going to put out next, but I do look forward to it. I know what to expect now and how to address the issues at hand (buy and clear a spare pf). BBBr and possible TOMr would be buys for me. It's clear they are taking their time to put out quality versus quantity.

Better to wait and get it right out of the gate/do it right then end up like some of these other producers.

I had a routed MB and a pretty much new MBr. It's not so much the size, but the frequency. I have 100X + more dimples on a PF that has seen less that 2K plays than my original routed MB with 10K plus plays and has less than 20 dimples. PF's dimple, my Doctor Who HUO has dimples, but not like my MBr.

The wood today is nowhere near the grade it was then. These dimples will start to flake.