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POLL: CGC Remake #4.

By Zavadoza

5 years ago


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“Which CGC Remake do you want/think will be next? ”

  • Tales of the Arabian Nights 294 votes
    18%
  • Theatre of Magic 221 votes
    13%
  • Big Bang Bar 223 votes
    13%
  • Cactus Canyon 618 votes
    37%
  • White Water 167 votes
    10%
  • Other 135 votes
    8%

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#585 4 years ago
Quoted from TechnicalSteam:

Still think Cirqus Voltair would beat out Cactus Canyon in Remake.
I hope it's CV as I miss mine immensely - not sure I can justify a CC
I would consider Twilight Zone if that was even a reality.
Just not into BB

I love CV but I don't see it in the top 5 list of eventual remakes.
The world needs more NIB Twilight Zones!!

9 months later
#1069 3 years ago

I like CC but I hope they redo the code.

And I have CG keep pumping out the classics like MM/AFM/MB as long as people keep buying them.
Just flood the market with these titles, please. (maybe one day I'll be able to get one...)

Fingers crossed they eventually take on Twilight Zone...
but at this rate they'll still have plenty of top-50 Bally/Williams games from 90s to remake when it's 2030.
one new game every 2 years...
CC in 2021?
TZ in 2023
TOM in 2025
WH20 in 2027
IJ in 2029
SSTNG in 2031
Scared Stiff in 2033
CV in 2035

then if pinball is still alive, The Shadow, CFTBL, BSD...

7 months later
#1782 2 years ago

I really hope CGC pick up the pace with these. I want there to be far more CC, BBB, ToM, TZ, AF, IJ, etc in the world but the longer it takes the smaller the market will be.
Those that want these games the most are at their peak purchasing power years, and the market is filled with amazing new games from Stern, JJP, and Spooky right now.

If the classics are going to be remade, these next 5-10 years or so are their peak opportunity to harvest nostalgia.
Maybe some CGC games will eventually have revised code (please!!), but we are moving further and further away from the DMD era and the relative simplicity of those rules.
Pinballers will always love the 90s classics, but the pool of people willing to throw down premium NIB money for them won't always be around.

#1808 2 years ago
Quoted from FlippyD:

We all gonna die next year or something? From what I can tell the range of people interested in buying 90's games is from mid 30s to mid 50s. I believe we have a good 20 more years before demand for 90s games dries up. Even then many will retain both value and popularity for decades simply because they are such good examples of pinball.

peak pinball purchasing power is (based off rough observations on pinside, correlated general with financial data) the ages 40-60. (upper middle-class+ people have more fun money in their 40s, and after 60 more people downsize as the kids leave)
The number of people that grew up with a 1993 pinball machine and have that nostalgia rush is going to really diminish for people born 1985+ (unless they got really lucky with local arcades).

It's 2021, and people born 1981 turn 40 this year, so that's the last major period of the peak window coming upon us.
In 2031, the number of 40 year olds with nostalgia for 90s Bally Williams titles will be seriously diminished. Not evaporated, there will still be 50 and 60 year olds into them with their nostalgia, but we're talking about the shrinking of peak markets.

In the last 7 years CGC has re-released 3 incredible titles. In the next decade, they'll release 4, maybe 5 more remakes?
And to loop back to my original post, by 2031 the economics might be such that the market for NIB remakes is to the point where it isn't worth it for them to continue making more.

I'd love to be wrong, but this seems pretty basic. Who knows, maybe pinball will double in popularity by then and the "nostalgia window" will be a far more moot point? But I doubt it.

#1809 2 years ago
Quoted from RA77:

Otherwise the 6-7" LCD on apron could be a nice touch

mod the code to include Wild Gunman NES graphics.

#1813 2 years ago
Quoted from TechnicalSteam:

I think you will see more remakes boom from Haggis and CGC soon. Think they are ironing out Supply Chain issues

I would be ecstatic if CGC and Haggis ramped things up to releasing a new remake each year, but pinball is hard.
CGC doing the DMD era, Haggis on the solid states... Then we'd finally have a timeframe where most of the biggest requests would be filled.

#1961 2 years ago
Quoted from Zablon:

you and I will be dead long before that even matters. Not an issue man lol.

yeah we found ways to make 40 year old electronics survive to 2021. 40 years from 2021, my reproduction Addams Family boards working won't be my main concern.

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#2153 2 years ago

we all kept shouting SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY at CGC and they only heard the first part

1 week later
#2179 2 years ago

has the Street Fighter 2 Remake been confirmed yet?

#2198 2 years ago

Since they're hard to find right now, I recommend everyone play an emulated Cactus Canyon just to get an idea for the gameplay.
I remember playing this a decade ago on Pinball Arcade. It was lots of fun.
Pinball emulation is exactly what this situation calls for IMO, because few people will have one in their circle to test ahead of time.

#2238 2 years ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

Lyman F. Sheats Jr. is finishing/rewriting the code.

that's the way to do it!
an uber rare 90s BW game getting redone with Sheats on fresh code will be exactly what's needed to get people hyped. Even if people haven't played it before, I think some people will be ordering just because of that

#2332 2 years ago
Quoted from Oscope:

I forgot to mention that more MMr machines will be produced in the near future EXCEPT for the Royal Edition for which NO more will ever be made

great news, the market can always use more Medieval Madnesses. Royal Edition is fancy and whatnot, but every other version is great too

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