CC has to the be the best choice. It needs some work, but not that much. I've played it and loved it as-is. Polished, it will sell well. It's just such a fun theme for everyone. It's hokey, goofy, humourous, rare, expensive, room for contemporary polish. It's the perfect choice. I hope they don't do BBB. The game isn't as good, and the whole alien stripper thing isn't attractive to me at all.

CC needs code work or do really want 1 hour showdown muiltball

Actually, that kind of thing IS allowed, it just can't be done without the original actor's consent. When I worked on a Mission:Impossible game, we were not allowed to use Tom Cruise's likeness (even though he was peripherally involved in the game), but he did allow us to use a "vague, sort of looks like a generic Tom Cruise-ish" Ethan Hunt.

So, if Harrison Ford said "No, I don't want to be on a pinball machine, but you can use a generic Indiana Jones.", then they could proceed. This is likely what happened with the original machine anyway. Studios are not going to piss-off their prized talent (by using a fake likeness without permission) for a small license opportunity like pinball.

can they force the stunt man to do that or there union going demand more.

Some stars are far more picky about use of their likeness than others, especially when it comes to selling stuff.

I guess that I don't know what you mean. Can who force the stunt man to do what?
Nobody can really "force" anyone to do something...they could certainly ask though.

However, most stunt men are not really "look-alikes" to the people they do the stunts for. They get dressed up the same, put on a wig, and are typically viewed only from angles where you can't really see their face. As long as they are roughly the same build and complexion, most times you can't really tell.

Yeah?? For now there's only three movies and those are the only three movies that are worth incorporating into a pin. Just like the original game!!

QSS

I hear ya, but it would be the greatest seller....I think they actually used Harrison Ford for the back glass....he was the closest to a look a like

That is not true. The backglass for IJ was hand drawn by Doug Watson. He was heavily influenced by the original Raiders of the Lost Ark & Last Crusade posters drawn by Richard Amsel and Drew Struzan. Every instance of Indy on the playfield and backglass had to be approved by both the licensor and Harrison Ford, just like Arnold had to approve T2. If you look at the IJ backglass, pretty much every "scene" was lifted from an existing Indy movie poster in some way, shape or form.

They should do cc, theatre of magic, then tales of the arabian knights. There are enough ij and taf still around.

But there are not enough updated versions out there with lighting, toppers, shakers and large color displays.

I'd be all over an updated IJ or TAF. I can only imagine how cool they would be.

Well, what they "should" do and what they "can" do may be two different things. Machines like IJ, TAF, and TZ have massive licensing issues that are problematic at best (and might be impossible to overcome).

CC is missing a lot of code, and CV has problems with how the display is done. These issues can probably be worked around, but might be troublesome.

Machines like TOM, TOTAN, and WH20 do not have those issues.

I understand. Wide screen would be nice. Maybe in due time.

IMHO TOTAN has issues with it's final wizard mode with the balls not auto plunging. Maybe it's just me, but having a ball just sit in the shooter lane is weird. I don't think it even has the mech to autoplunge. Just curious if CGC has the rights to add mechs and change code?

Wouldn't Monster Bash also fall under the licensing issues? Maybe things are easier for a remake?

Worst past is the game is uber boring...

I was never really a big fan of TOTAN, but that doesn't really surprise me. Several machines have problems with their wizard modes. I've seen TZ get screwy when trying to re-load the gumball after LITZ. And STTNG gets really confused if you have a second Final Frontier in the same game. It's like it loses count of the balls it has on the playfield.

I always thought it was strange how Monster Bash uses (mostly) the same animations and voice call-outs for Monster Bash mode and Monsters of Rock. Seems like they could have done something to better differentiate them. If CGC could change code, I would have liked them to do something with that.

They did have go back through the licensing with Universal for Monster Bash, and it was fairly time-consuming. But Universal Monsters is not nearly as big a license deal as Indiana Jones (which is now Disney). And supposedly there are problems with Addams Family assets due to the death of Raul Julia.

they have used home roms (coin play on) in Monster Bash.

At very least be nice to be able to sideload the home roms for a few games if they remake them.

True. Totan 2.0 fixed that problem with the possibility to add an auto launcher (same as CV).... and fixing all the software flaws... it seems to be close to be finished too.

Agreed. I highly doubt CGC wants to deal with the licensing nightmare that is IJ. It seems more likely that they will eventually move forward with CC. I'm not aware if they are allowed to change code, but I know at one point someone said they reached out to Eric Priepke regarding Continued Code. Given the CGC/Spooky relationship on the next Ben Heck project and Eric working on Rick & Morty, we could very well see this come to fruition. Also, from a technical perspective, CGC has now done three WPC-95 games. They have the entire infrastructure built for WPC-95 hardware and will continue to reuse that infrastructure while they can still make money on it. They are also able to reuse speaker panels and a slew of parts from their three previous games by sticking within the same era of pinball. Given that, it really only leaves two viable options (factoring in value on the used market): CC and TOTAN. CV could eventually happen but with it's DMD placement and other differences, it may not make sense for them. Just my two cents.

They last posted they aren't allowed to change any game code and they will NOT make Continued code.

Assuming that's true, then I see CC as a poor choice. The reason CC is so expensive is because it is so rare, not because it is so good. If they make a few thousand more of them, then it becomes un-rare. And if the code can't be finished, then all you have is a common machine with poor code.

TOM or TOTAN (or even WH20) would be better choices I think. They may be much more common, but they are also good (and have finished code).

If they were allowed to finish the code (even if it isn't the Continued stuff), then CC would be a fine choice.

April Fools??

maybe they have MB HOME ROM coin play

I’m hearing Addams Family ?

I would love that!

My belief is CC will happen, The title is well worthy of a re-make albeit slightly weak code. I am fortunate to have played both CC and Continued and appreciated/preferred the extra depth and humor of Continued.
It's a shame CGC were apparently unable to negotiate inclusion of Continued code ? , I think that would make insta buy for me. Playing a 2020 build factory pimped out CC with upgraded display, magic LED light show and extra code would absolutely be a winner. So my stance on CC is to stay on sidelines until there is confirmation of further code from dev team.

Now next remake after CC my bets are on ToTAN my girl would love that title and probably force me to by it no matter what, Lol. I don't mind the game but..............

I have a feeling that the unlicensed/licensed ? ( wish I knew ) ? game CGC is working on will blow us all away ! I'm stoked Franchi is on art as I really like the style passion in his work. Can't wait to see CGC's Original effort.

TAF is the next game in Pinside Top 100 order that is next. I do not think CGC would do TZ as a remake.

So I am considering buying the next title as my first NIB. What is the most effective and cheapest way to purchase a Chicago Gaming NIB pin?

NIB games all have the same pricing structure....pretty much price fixed

Just curious, why wouldn't they do a TZ?

Williams had to grab 3 licenses for this game. Theme, Rods image, and music

TAF........ Take my $$$$. I hope CGC is listening !!!

Been discussed dozens of times. Cost, complexity, and licenses.

I think WW would be a great remake...not sure if theres any licensing issues with that title? CGC has already done the low hanging fruit....by far their best sellers that would demand high dollar would be IJ, TZ, and TAF (sounds like licensing is an issue for all)....possibly WW....not sure how the others would sell let alone demand $8300+ for an LE version of the game.

Has CGC actually stated that there are licensing issues with TZ and have ruled it out or is it speculation at the moment?
Personally, I would love to buy a TZ remake- high grade cleared examples are difficult to find north of the boarder and remain very pricey.

Taf take my money, anything else...I'm on hold

That’s the great thing about their business model. As 99% of the product/content is already engineered and done they don’t have to sell thousands of units like Stern to mark it as successful or profitable. One thousand units is a success. With that said TOTAN, CC, and CV have no license or upper Playfield and draw a huge secondary market value. Easy pickings. Maybe not to many on Pinside but my guess is they are not only focused on what we would like? Those three titles would sell 1K with minimal effort with just the larger screen.

Good points...what about WW?....I wouldn't be a buyer for any of those other games ( I've owned all 3 remakes and they are awesome)

Fun game no question but more times then not they can be found for 5k or less in the secondary market. Even a HEP WW went for 9. The market shows them which ones have margin. Love it or hate it CC has always been fetching 10-17k. Way to much! Same as MM and MB did years ago. Not any longer....

opinion. i don't know much on catcus canyon, but if the code is so bad...who would want a remake? sort of wonder if somebody can make a continued code for the remake of catcus canyon, if it happens. on afm classic, it can be updated with a micro sd card. so...wouldn't it be possible for somebody to make cc continued if they remake the game?

if they are not doing something for the code, sort of hope the next remake is totan then.

I just don't see TOTAN or CV selling very well (just my opinion), and I think CC is fun, but its incomplete .....really nice examples of WW sell for much higher than $5K in my area...by far the games that would demand the greatest $ and sales numbers would be IJ and then TZ, but its unlikely they will ever be remade

If it is indeed CC, trust me, they will make sure the code is finished and polished, however way they can. They will find a way. That’s how CGC rolls. They only produce top notch products. They do seem to have delay after delay, but you can’t deny their quality.