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POLL: CGC Remake #4.


By Zavadoza

1 year ago



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“Which CGC Remake do you want/think will be next? ”

  • Tales of the Arabian Nights 158 votes
    15%
  • Theatre of Magic 132 votes
    12%
  • Big Bang Bar 174 votes
    16%
  • Cactus Canyon 425 votes
    40%
  • White Water 87 votes
    8%
  • Other 88 votes
    8%

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#451 3 months ago
Quoted from Warzard:

Why do you think none of the remake has new code and we see only a new LCD with animations?

Their agreement with Williams doesn't let them mess with original code. Original code version comes up when you hit enter.

LCD animations, and other things are in the CGC programming. CGC code version is on first page of CGC menu.

LTG : )

#452 3 months ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

Do you seriously believe that CCr would sell, or that they would have chosen to do it if it wasn't a top to bottom remake?
We know there's going to be additional code - that means there must be new original animations and sound too.

I can’t say for toys but this would mainly for collectors. For the code you know that from where?
Yes you’re right for the sound and animations which was dealt in specific rom address and which has been replaced. Ok yes already done with MB , AFM, MM.
for CC, if it’s confirmed, they are aiming collectors who want the best build pins with best screens and animations. If they release that, lot of people will forget with the current code extension ccc.
They could sell a lot of them anyway, but it’s my opinion.

#453 3 months ago
Quoted from LTG:

Their agreement with Williams doesn't let them mess with original code. Original code version comes up when you hit enter.
LCD animations, and other things are in the CGC programming. CGC code version is on first page of CGC menu.
LTG : )

Yes it was my understanding as well (aside from the cost point) but thanks for the clarification.

#454 3 months ago
Quoted from Warzard:

for CC, if it’s confirmed, they are aiming collectors who want the best build pins with best screens and animations. If they release that, lot of people will forget with the current code extension ccc.
They could sell a lot of them anyway, but it’s my opinion.

What cgc (if they are wise) should ask themself, is if the pin would be sought after if there was plenty of them out there.
Pins sought after for their rarity, as best selling point, makes no sense at all, since once they produce them, they aren´t rare at all.

So with Wonka, jurassic park, guns and roses(the new one), toy story coming up, elvira, danesis new, ap´s new, who would prefer and rather buy a non-scarce cactus canyon?

I think they´ve done the right thing so far. The best of the best of old pins, presented in a quality package.

Does that concept hold water, for the good, but not best old pins?

As i said for the art pieces like popadyuk games, i think so, even if i´d love to see some extras, like modern toppers, updated code option, even lcd, if they come so far as real licensed titles based of movies for example indy-pin.
That with lcd and movie assets, would probebly be an almost must have for many pin-collectors.

#455 3 months ago
Quoted from LTG:

Their agreement with Williams doesn't let them mess with original code. Original code version comes up when you hit enter.
LCD animations, and other things are in the CGC programming. CGC code version is on first page of CGC menu.
LTG : )

If it’s true that they can’t mess with the original code, then this post by PPS was a little misleading, don’t you think?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/monster-bash-remake-this-game-is-scary-good-chicago-gaming-company/page/2#post-4127913

‘We also have the source code for these games, so any deficiencies in the original code could be addressed with a couple of different approaches.‘

#456 3 months ago
Quoted from evh347:

If it’s true that they can’t mess with the original code, then this post by PPS was a little misleading, don’t you think?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/monster-bash-remake-this-game-is-scary-good-chicago-gaming-company/page/2#post-4127913
‘We also have the source code for these games, so any deficiencies in the original code could be addressed with a couple of different approaches.‘

I don't think those two statements are incompatible.

#457 3 months ago
Quoted from evh347:

then this post by PPS was a little misleading, don’t you think?

No, because they might be able to address something in the CGC code.

Maybe over time and their relationship with Williams improves, who knows. Maybe at some point they maybe can do more.

Time will tell.

LTG : )

#458 3 months ago
Quoted from LTG:

No, because they might be able to address something in the CGC code.
Maybe over time and their relationship with Williams improves, who knows. Maybe at some point they maybe can do more.
Time will tell.
LTG : )

Sure. Let’s don’t forget that developing a new code is a TON of work. The used freeWPC an old chipset language which might need to be 100% rewritten in something else.
It used to be done by skilled guys who knew the env by heart and who needed several months for the current code to be achieved, also professional actor voice and so on.
Are they willing to pay actors as well?
So to do what: adding 2 or 3 sequences, a video mode, 2 or 3 animations which can already been done... come on.... Anyone could imagine a business plan of what the cost of this? Yes everything is possible but the final price would not be the same and the masses doesn’t care... they mainly want a collective object.

Again: a company has to be viable in long term. No one want to have the same ending as suncoast and so on...

#459 3 months ago
Quoted from Warzard:

Sure. Let’s don’t forget that developing a new code is a TON of work. The used freeWPC an old chipset language which might need to be 100% rewritten in something else.
It used to be done by skilled guys who knew the env by heart and who needed several months for the current code to be achieved, also professional actor voice and so on.
Are they willing to pay actors as well?
So to do what: adding 2 or 3 sequences, a video mode, 2 or 3 animations which can already been done... come on.... Anyone could imagine a business plan of what the cost of this? Yes everything is possible but the final price would not be the same and the masses doesn’t care... they mainly want a collective object.
Again: a company has to be viable in long term. No one want to have the same ending as suncoast and so on...

I think virtually anyone who has much time on CC's factory code will tell you that it would not be a seller, with all original software, regardless of what ever else they did. I'm pretty sure CGC are cognisant of this too. Join the dots.

#460 3 months ago

Maybe MMRRE and add ons is just a way to help fund the licensing for the next pin.

#461 3 months ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

CC I'd expect them to completely re-do the cabinet and translite package, add a lot of code, completely new animations & sound, and improve the toys. I.E. way more work than their previous titles. BBBr will be more work still (save art package).

I dig the original art on CC.
Will be interesting to maybe ? see the Franchi touch on CCr. Im guessing CCr will pop, art , display and topper will be awesome .
My only reservation is code.
Hoping CGC can add code that rivals Continued
Very much looking forward to this one

1 week later
#462 3 months ago

Who thinks they'll reveal at Texas Pinball ?

1 week later
#463 85 days ago

Addams Family? It’s possible
And it would sell !!!

#464 85 days ago

Any hints or info on when this could be announced? 2019???

#465 85 days ago

I honestly think it’s BBB

#466 85 days ago
Quoted from whitey:

I honestly think it’s BBB

That won't happen until after PTC.

LTG : )

#467 85 days ago

what is ptc?

#468 85 days ago

Punchy the clown

#469 85 days ago

Permit to carry

#471 84 days ago

Alien. Any other game is pointless at this point. Make it so.

When you consider the prices and restores, pretty much everything that isn't 'rare' is already priced 5-8k. They've done the 3 games that were the highest priced available games. CV,ToM, ToTAN, AF, TZ (which I don't even think they could make for nearly what they are selling for now) are all readily available for basically the same price or lower than what they would be selling them for.

#472 84 days ago

Slow your roll !

Rick has said before he plans on doing
BBBR ! Neon green trim ? Bad ass topper

#473 84 days ago

I know most are saying CCr but with out CCC code I think CC will not sell well. I have owned CCC and I couldn’t imagine buying a CC if CCC wasn’t an option... Bring on BBBr with a motorized Alien babe pole dancer topper.

#474 84 days ago

I would actually be in for a BBBr!

#476 84 days ago

CC is too predictable!

We need something new !

#477 84 days ago

CC and TOTAN seem like the lowest hanging fruit with the highest payoff to me. If your not a long time collector (which 99% of the buyers are not) those titles still pull a mighty sum in most any condition. TOTAN playfields are already done and both have no second party crazy licensing worries like MBr ran into. Not to crap on anyones wish but I would put TAF to the end of the list as while they pull a decent resale the Second the market smells a chance they are considering that game there will be hundreds climbing out of basements up for sale in no time which would all compete for CGC market against itself. Just an opinion.

#478 83 days ago
Quoted from whitey:

We need something new !

Gotta love the hypocrisy

#479 83 days ago
Quoted from epthegeek:

Gotta love the hypocrisy

Contradictory, yes. Hypocritical, no.

#480 83 days ago
Quoted from Hammerhead:

Contradictory, yes. Hypocritical, no.

I'm gonna go with; it's both.

"beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform" -- he believes we need something new, but he behaves as if he wants something old remade.

#481 83 days ago
Quoted from epthegeek:

I'm gonna go with; it's both.
"beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform" -- he believes we need something new, but he behaves as if he wants something old remade.

The way I behave ? Oh god
Whatever it is I’m buying it

#482 83 days ago

Ok . I vote for circus voiltar

#483 83 days ago
Quoted from zaki:

I vote for circus voiltar

If they do it. I hope they go with Cirqus Voltaire.

LTG : )

#484 83 days ago

Pins i would like to see in 2020

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#485 83 days ago
Quoted from VGC1612:

Pins i would like to see in 2020[quoted image]

I gotta say it makes sense to build Kingpin and BBB at the same time
Same boards , displays , cabinets etc

#486 83 days ago
Quoted from epthegeek:

Gotta love the hypocrisy

Gotta love keyboard bullshit !

#487 83 days ago

#4 will be Cactus Canyon announced at Texas. A little birdie told me at Expo

#488 83 days ago
Quoted from Yesh23:

#4 will be Cactus Canyon announced at Texas. A little birdie told me at Expo

Did the bird tell you MMR Royal was #4 ?

LTG : )

#489 82 days ago
Quoted from whitey:

I gotta say it makes sense to build Kingpin and BBB at the same time
Same boards , displays , cabinets etc

How do you figure? CGC uses their own board set. Circus Maximus uses the P3 off the shelf board set.

4 weeks later
#490 53 days ago

Catus Canyon or another title ? How soon ?

#491 53 days ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

Catus Canyon or another title ? How soon ?

I emailed cgc earlier this month about the next release. They said “very” soon....

I would think that it would be close to release. As long as it’s the good quality they’ve been doing I might be down for CC.

#492 53 days ago
Quoted from LTG:

If they do it. I hope they go with Cirqus Voltaire.
LTG : )

With rom 2.0.
Monster bash has the home rom with coin play.

#493 53 days ago

A little bird told me their next remake would be Gottlieb's Dragon.

(This was after he flew headlong into my window, however, so I cannot guarantee the accuracy of this statement.)

#494 53 days ago
Quoted from Joe_Blasi:

With rom 2.0.
Monster bash has the home rom with coin play.

*If* they ever do CV, I’d hope they fix the neon MB percentage chance. It’s so rare in 2.0 home rom. It’s percentage to occur got messed up in 2.0

#495 53 days ago

Very soon huh....

#496 52 days ago

I’m sold, CGC makes a great product even though they are remakes. I’ll wait for Scared Stiff.

#497 52 days ago

If they do an original, they need to do Idiocracy. "Ow! My Balls!" multiball mode.

#498 52 days ago
Quoted from yuriijos:

I’m sold, CGC makes a great product even though they are remakes. I’ll wait for Scared Stiff.

SS is my next game and with prices 7-8500 without new parts. I’m waiting too!

#499 52 days ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

How do you figure? CGC uses their own board set. Circus Maximus uses the P3 off the shelf board set.

Hmmmmm .... good question I think we know the answer to...

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#500 24 days ago

Do you think they would ever remake Twilight Zone?

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