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POLL —Buying A Borg - Iron Man VS Munsters Pro

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2 years ago


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“POLL —Buying A Borg - Iron Man VS Munsters Pro”

  • Iron Man VE 139 votes
    86%
  • Munsters Pro 22 votes
    14%

(161 votes)

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#1 2 years ago

Need help deciding! Want a Borg machine and these two are the themes I like best. A bit apples and oranges considering dmd versus lcd et cetera. I have played both and love both, albeit for different reasons!

#2 2 years ago

Iron man has short ball times and keeps you coming back for more. Very fast and fun game. I owned a Munsters pro- it does have great art and shots- but I have much more fun on Iron Man

#3 2 years ago

game play over whether it’s LCD or DMD etc.
IMVE

#4 2 years ago
Quoted from Vino:

game play over whether it’s LCD or DMD etc.
IMVE

That part (LCD vs DMD) is actually quite low on my list. Artwork has a lot of influence on my decision, so in that aspect Munsters crushes Iron Man like an aluminum can.

#5 2 years ago
Quoted from MasterBlaster:

That part (LCD vs DMD) is actually quite low on my list. Artwork has a lot of influence on my decision, so in that aspect Munsters crushes Iron Man like an aluminum can.

Assuming you want a game that is Fun to play (not just look good) I highly doubt you’ll get many votes for Munsters in this comparison

#6 2 years ago
Quoted from Coz:

Iron man has short ball times and keeps you coming back for more. Very fast and fun game. I owned a Munsters pro- it does have great art and shots- but I have much more fun on Iron Man

Thanks for the info! I know that IM is the smart choice, but I’ll be darned if that Munsters doesn’t pull on my heart strings! Makes it a much more difficult decision than it should be! Ha!

#7 2 years ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

Assuming you want a game that is Fun to play (not just look good) I highly doubt you’ll get many votes for Munsters in this comparison

Fun is definitely the primary factor, but these machine do sit a lot, as I usually only get to play on the weekends. So while I see them every day, I usually only get to put my hands on them Friday evening thru Sunday. I’ve noticed that the SAM games are much quicker to boot up, which isn’t a big deal but sometimes that could make a difference if I want to squeeze in a quick game sometime. That’s usually what happens when I’m deciding on Deadpool versus Spider-Man…if I’ve got 15-20 minutes while dinner is in the oven, I’ll sneak down and quick flip on Spidey because I know I can start it up in less than a minute

#8 2 years ago

A less complex rule set is also a priority. I think all day at work…the last thing I want to do is have to work out the math when I’m playing pinball. Although I think the rule sets in both of these games is relatively simple in comparison to most of their contemporaries.

#9 2 years ago

I played a bunch of iron man on location yesterday. Probably the 4th or 5th time I have played it, and I like the game more every time. Game has good coding with speed to go with it.

#10 2 years ago
Quoted from Ty-Arnold:

I played a bunch of iron man on location yesterday. Probably the 4th or 5th time I have played it, and I like the game more every time. Game has good coding with speed to go with it.

Sheats versus Sullivan, it’s difficult for the scales to tip any way but Sheats. Don’t get me wrong, I have a T2 and I love the Sullivan code on that one…but that was before he got really heavy into multipliers and whatnot. I’m a simpleton when it comes to what I like in a rule set.

#11 2 years ago

Im not one of those Munsters haters... I actually think its fun.

But Iron Man is an all time great (unless you arent that great at pinball then it will eat your lunch).

I think its more a choice if you like easier or harder games really.

#12 2 years ago
Quoted from Ty-Arnold:

I played a bunch of iron man on location yesterday. Probably the 4th or 5th time I have played it, and I like the game more every time. Game has good coding with speed to go with it.

I played one yesterday also, which is pretty much how I got on this track of thinking. Agree, it was much faster than I expected! The one that I played was next to a BKSOR Pro, and I felt like Iron Man was every bit as fast. Maybe even faster, considering the shots are a little further away from the flippers.

#13 2 years ago

I'd get Iron Man super tough fast game. Fast game play matches the shallow rules. Munsters is not super difficult and has shallow rules.

#14 2 years ago
Quoted from Elvishasleft:

Im not one of those Munsters haters... I actually think its fun.
But Iron Man is an all time great (unless you arent that great at pinball then it will eat your lunch).
I think its more a choice if you like easier or harder games really.

I’m not opposed to it being difficult, as it will be sitting next to a DE BATMAN which is very simple and easy to play. Most times it will be getting played by casual players or even first timers who don’t care too much about how long they’re on the machine. They’re at my place to drink adult beverages and have fun.

#15 2 years ago

Iron Man might be the epiotme of "simple yet hard as hell." I'm biased, obviously, you can see that in my collection history. I'll be selling mine soon, apparently I need to replace an air conditioner. I just need to get the cliffy stuff I ordered put back on it and replace a busted rubber and reassemble the stuff I took off.

Getting to Do or Die Mulitball is borderline impossible.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from MasterBlaster:

The one that I played was next to a BKSOR Pro, and I felt like Iron Man was every bit as fast.

Really starting to like where you play.
Two butt kickers side by side.
Good luck

#17 2 years ago

If you haven't heard Rob Zombie is making a Munsters Movie RIGHT NOW!!!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14813212/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1

A major motion picture about the Munsters could bring a ton more fans to the IP.

If you ask me the artwork on Munsters is second to none, and with the new movie coming out you might buy cheap and have a real in demand pin in your household.

#18 2 years ago
Quoted from blacklightprod:

If you haven't heard Rob Zombie is making a Munsters Movie RIGHT NOW!!!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14813212/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1
A major motion picture about the Munsters could bring a ton more fans to the IP.
If you ask me the artwork on Munsters is second to none, and with the new movie coming out you might buy cheap and have a real in demand pin in your household.

Oh wow I hadn’t heard that…very cool!!!

#19 2 years ago
Quoted from Vino:

Really starting to like where you play.
Two butt kickers side by side.
Good luck

Lol look me up if you’re ever in the heartland of ‘Merica and we will go there! We have an operator who has done a great job of circulating quality pins between a few of our local dive bars. The one I frequent currently has IM, BKSOR, Deadpool, GnR, MM and Monster bash. It’s pretty well a perfect combo for my tastes right now. Gotta enjoy it while it lasts though, as he moves them relatively frequently around town to keep the quarters flowing.

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#20 2 years ago

Is this a serious question?

#21 2 years ago

#iron-man-ve all the way.

Not saying Munsters (Pro) is bad, but with IMVE there's a certain adrenaline rush from reaching Mark VI then starting Jericho Missile Mayhem that keeps me coming back for more. Nothing in Munsters really draws me in that same way.

#22 2 years ago

Easy get both!

#23 2 years ago

I voted IMVE, I have owned the longest just had my best score a week ago. Beat Jericho.

#24 2 years ago
Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

Is this a serious question?

Hahaha it doesn’t seem like it, does it?! Some of this is price-based, as I can get a IMVE in good condition for about the same price as a very gently used Munsters.

#25 2 years ago

I would love to, but unfortunately space is at a premium and in fact I’ll have to sell one of my others or put in storage to make room for this one.

#26 2 years ago

I think you should get Munsters.

I’ve never played it, but you said you love both, but in the art department Munsters crushes IM. Thats a big deal IMO, especially if you love gameplay on both.

#27 2 years ago

I definitely agree if you get an IM get the VE edition. I have owned both the original and the VE and I definitely like the VE better.

I would say you are comparing a difficult, fast paced game (IM) to a more approachable, one for the beginner/ average player in Munsters.

ImVe is a great game and right now you can pick up a pretty loaded, mod wise game, for somewhere in the 5 K region. IM has been around for a while and does not have the demand it did a few years back. Great speed, sounds, callouts that got even better with the code update that came out recently. I can not find a fault in the game. Some might, because it does not have the depth of the more modern sterns (see Elvira 3) but it is a great game.

I have a Prem Munsters that I really enjoy. It is a fun game where you have a big risk reward component (see Mustang) in delaying Jackpots. I love the left ramp for Raven and the Spot shots. When you get the game going it is a lot of fun. It is also the kind of game my wife is attracted to as well as non pin friends who like the occasional game. As far as code, I believe it has plenty of code for the average player. A really good player may not like the game unless they like the jack pot risk reward component. Munsters was a buy a little while ago. It is starting to get more popular. If the code gets updated next year, per rumor, it could get to be a much in demand game.

So I would make my decision as such, if you are (or friends are) a better player, who likes difficult/fast paced action, I would go IMVE. If you are buying the game for the family and like a fun game that has a really cool Jack pot strategy, I would go Munsters.

#28 2 years ago
Quoted from sulli10:

I definitely agree if you get an IM get the VE edition. I have owned both the original and the VE and I definitely like the VE better.
I would say you are comparing a difficult, fast paced game (IM) to a more approachable, one for the beginner/ average player in Munsters.
ImVe is a great game and right now you can pick up a pretty loaded, mod wise game, for somewhere in the 5 K region. IM has been around for a while and does not have the demand it did a few years back. Great speed, sounds, callouts that got even better with the code update that came out recently. I can not find a fault in the game. Some might, because it does not have the depth of the more modern sterns (see Elvira 3) but it is a great game.
I have a Prem Munsters that I really enjoy. It is a fun game where you have a big risk reward component (see Mustang) in delaying Jackpots. I love the left ramp for Raven and the Spot shots. When you get the game going it is a lot of fun. It is also the kind of game my wife is attracted to as well as non pin friends who like the occasional game. As far as code, I believe it has plenty of code for the average player. A really good player may not like the game unless they like the jack pot risk reward component. Munsters was a buy a little while ago. It is starting to get more popular. If the code gets updated next year, per rumor, it could get to be a much in demand game.
So I would make my decision as such, if you are (or friends are) a better player, who likes difficult/fast paced action, I would go IMVE. If you are buying the game for the family and like a fun game that has a really cool Jack pot strategy, I would go Munsters.

Excellent info, thank you!

#29 2 years ago
Quoted from sulli10:

I definitely agree if you get an IM get the VE edition. I have owned both the original and the VE and I definitely like the VE better.
I would say you are comparing a difficult, fast paced game (IM) to a more approachable, one for the beginner/ average player in Munsters.
ImVe is a great game and right now you can pick up a pretty loaded, mod wise game, for somewhere in the 5 K region. IM has been around for a while and does not have the demand it did a few years back. Great speed, sounds, callouts that got even better with the code update that came out recently. I can not find a fault in the game. Some might, because it does not have the depth of the more modern sterns (see Elvira 3) but it is a great game.
I have a Prem Munsters that I really enjoy. It is a fun game where you have a big risk reward component (see Mustang) in delaying Jackpots. I love the left ramp for Raven and the Spot shots. When you get the game going it is a lot of fun. It is also the kind of game my wife is attracted to as well as non pin friends who like the occasional game. As far as code, I believe it has plenty of code for the average player. A really good player may not like the game unless they like the jack pot risk reward component. Munsters was a buy a little while ago. It is starting to get more popular. If the code gets updated next year, per rumor, it could get to be a much in demand game.
So I would make my decision as such, if you are (or friends are) a better player, who likes difficult/fast paced action, I would go IMVE. If you are buying the game for the family and like a fun game that has a really cool Jack pot strategy, I would go Munsters.

So I went and looked at the IM and as it turns out, it is NOT the VE. It’s the original model. I hadn’t really paid attention to the t-molding on the back box and the photos of the exterior weren’t all that great. I should’ve known, when the t-molding was black and not red.
So does that tip the scales, if it’s not a VE?

#30 2 years ago
Quoted from MasterBlaster:

So I went and looked at the IM and as it turns out, it is NOT the VE. It’s the original model. I hadn’t really paid attention to the t-molding on the back box and the photos of the exterior weren’t all that great. I should’ve known, when the t-molding was black and not red.
So does that tip the scales, if it’s not a VE?

The VE has a different cabinet decal, the lighting is LED’s and to me the game shoots a little better. These differences are off the top of my head. I would check on line first the delta’s tween the two. The color molding would not sway me as that can be changed pretty easily. If the original is well modded and a fair price I would consider it tho.

#31 2 years ago

If you did Munsters vs Thunderbirds, this would be a much harder decision

#32 2 years ago

I think you should buy a STTNG so you can BATTLE the BORG.

#33 2 years ago

I’d go with Iron Man by far. I own TWD and Met pro as well. Three great Borg games from the DMD era.

#34 2 years ago
Quoted from Eskaybee:

If you did Munsters vs Thunderbirds, this would be a much harder decision

Hahaha is that because both of those titles are so good?

#35 2 years ago
Quoted from holminone:

I think you should buy a STTNG so you can BATTLE the BORG.

Lol I was actually thinking about THE BORG when I was coming up with a title for the post. Maybe I should save my money and buy an actual Borg

#36 2 years ago
Quoted from MasterBlaster:

Hahaha is that because both of those titles are so good?

Well…I’d say they’re relatively in the same ball park as each other

#37 2 years ago

Someone said Munsters was good for casual players, but Iron Man is as well. Easy to explain hit drones, hit Iron Man targets hit spinners all progress you to something that makes sense for a novice player.

It’s not like AIQ where I pick a mode and couldn’t even figure how to get the mode shots to activate (need to hit the spinning target to start the mode).

#38 2 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Someone said Munsters was good for casual players, but Iron Man is as well. Easy to explain hit drones, hit Iron Man targets hit spinners all progress you to something that makes sense for a novice player.
It’s not like AIQ where I pick a mode and couldn’t even figure how to get the mode shots to activate (need to hit the spinning target to start the mode).

Amen on the AIQ confusion but the mechs and layout make up for all that. Played it for the first time last night and it’s pretty awesome.

#39 2 years ago

IM is a vastly superior pin. I have owned several. There is no comparison in quality of gameplay, fun factor and replayability vs Munsters. They are not even in the same universe. IM is the best short ball time modern pin ever. Munsters is considered a snoozer and a flop by most.

The differences between IM original and VE are purely cosmetic. VE has metallic cabinet decals, newer head style, red led display, led lighting and an LED bulb in mongers chest. Expect to pay about $400-$500 more for the VE. Either version is fine. LEDs can be easily added to the original version. The Pinball Refinery versions are sublime.

#40 2 years ago

IMVE > IM >> Munsters Pro

To me it is that simple. I had a Munsters Pro on loan here for a couple of months and it is simply not fun to me despite loving the theme from my childhood. There are a lot of nice updates on the IMVE. I am kind of in the market for an IM after selling my IMVE a couple years back and later regretting it. From my point of view, unless you already own an original IM, the IMVE is the only way to go. The LEDs are very tastefully done, and the metallic side art is amazing compared to the old newspaper dots from the older Sterns. I also really like the metal head with the display and speakers tilted back towards the player. That makes the sound and dots look better and reduces the glare on the playfield glass from the display. Not to mention, most VEs are nearly new and pristine where a lot of the original IM have thousands of plays and a decade dings and dents externally.

#41 2 years ago

Munsters will forever...forever...FOREVER... be a "Why????" title to me. I have played it, and while the game itself really is fun, the theme seems like a "well, we couldn't afford Addams Family...so ...".

Iron Man by a cosmic mile. If you have the know how to add amplifiers for the game, holy smokes, it is a killer game.

#42 2 years ago

I love my original IM, would love a VAULT and no desire to ever own Munsters....

#43 2 years ago

Neither!

#44 2 years ago

IM all day. Brutal and fast. I have somewhat good games and other times absolutely horrible games. Munsters is great for more casual player.

#45 2 years ago

I’m not too well up on Munsters but when you look at other Spike2 pins like JP, DP, Maiden, SW to name a few that have credible pros. It’s a long way down to the Munsters.

#46 2 years ago
Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

IM is a vastly superior pin. I have owned several. There is no comparison in quality of gameplay, fun factor and replayability vs Munsters. They are not even in the same universe. IM is the best short ball time modern pin ever. Munsters is considered a snoozer and a flop by most.
The differences between IM original and VE are purely cosmetic. VE has metallic cabinet decals, newer head style, red led display, led lighting and an LED bulb in mongers chest. Expect to pay about $400-$500 more for the VE. Either version is fine. LEDs can be easily added to the original version. The Pinball Refinery versions are sublime.

This will seem crazy but the main reason I would want the VE is so the Monger chest lights up.

#47 2 years ago
Quoted from John_I:

IMVE > IM >> Munsters Pro
To me it is that simple. I had a Munsters Pro on loan here for a couple of months and it is simply not fun to me despite loving the theme from my childhood. There are a lot of nice updates on the IMVE. I am kind of in the market for an IM after selling my IMVE a couple years back and later regretting it. From my point of view, unless you already own an original IM, the IMVE is the only way to go. The LEDs are very tastefully done, and the metallic side art is amazing compared to the old newspaper dots from the older Sterns. I also really like the metal head with the display and speakers tilted back towards the player. That makes the sound and dots look better and reduces the glare on the playfield glass from the display. Not to mention, most VEs are nearly new and pristine where a lot of the original IM have thousands of plays and a decade dings and dents externally.

Also to my count, more shots on IM. Good point about the wear & tear on the cabinet when considering original versus VE. Thanks for the input!

#48 2 years ago
Quoted from NPO:

Munsters will forever...forever...FOREVER... be a "Why????" title to me. I have played it, and while the game itself really is fun, the theme seems like a "well, we couldn't afford Addams Family...so ...".
Iron Man by a cosmic mile. If you have the know how to add amplifiers for the game, holy smokes, it is a killer game.

It seems like with Munsters, the depth of content just isn’t there. Like they found clips that they really liked and just stuck with the same ones over and over for all of the modes and whatnot. I’m a huge fan of the show and I don’t remember many of the scenes that they show during the game. Who knows, maybe they had limited use of the content or something but it just feels empty compared to the amount of content that should have been available.

#49 2 years ago

After having Ironman for about 3 months , I had gotten bored with it. Iron Monger got annoying as he seemed to always be in the way.. I know allot if people love the stacks and love that game but for me I got rid of it after 3 months.. if you like stacking Bram Stokers Dracula is allot more fun, Ironman was one of the games that lost its luster the quickest for me.. I know its not a popular opinion but that's my 2 cents.. people want to bash Munsters for a shallow rules etc, but then praise Ironman for its even shallower ruleset. Maybe I'm a one off but that game got boring quick.. I havent spent allot of time on Munsters but I'd it was up to me between those 2 games I would have to go Munsters.

#50 2 years ago

I own both IM and Munsters.

IM by a longshot gameplay-wise. It's brutally fast with simple objectives but a pure rush to play. Keeps you pressing the start button over and over after it's kicked your butt numerous times.

Munsters sure is pretty to look at, but the game is kinda ho-hum. I'm a big fan of the theme (along with TAF) and that's the only reason I keep it around. Sadly, the theme integration could have been a LOT better by using more clips. I probably wouldn't miss it if I sold it.

As far as the IM vs IMVE debate, I've never personally played the VE. The main reason *I* didn't care for the VE was because of the LED setup. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they are surface mounted LEDs on PCBs which means you lose the ability to change bulbs if you had a certain color/brightness preference.

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