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Poll: Ball one was terrible - do you hit reset?


By n1teowl

4 years ago



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    “Ball one was terrible - do you hit reset?”

    • Mash that start button as soon as possible - no guilt involed 56 votes
      23%
    • Push the start button on the down low, and feel bad about it 13 votes
      5%
    • Suck it up and make the best of it 100 votes
      41%
    • Take it as a challenge and work twice as hard to beat your high score 75 votes
      31%

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    #51 4 years ago

    Interesting. I see that "game restart" is enabled in the service menu but when I hold down the start button for like 30 seconds after the first ball nothing happens. I'll have to keep trying to see what happens. As an IT PM soft and hard restarts are relevant, with soft obviously being better for hardware lifecycle and software stability. Something to consider..............

    COS

    #52 4 years ago
    Quoted from CosmosBandit:

    Interesting. I see that "game restart" is enabled in the service menu but when I hold down the start button for like 30 seconds after the first ball nothing happens. I'll have to keep trying to see what happens. As an IT PM soft and hard restarts are relevant, with soft obviously being better for hardware lifecycle and software stability. Something to consider..............
    COS

    Make sure it serves ball 2 first.

    #53 4 years ago

    Weird. Still doesn't reset. Puts up player 3 and then does nothing for a least 20 seconds. Hmmm

    #54 4 years ago

    So wait, you drained balls one for both players and then did it?

    It *should* work, so long as it says Ball 2 on the DMD. My Metallica and IM both do it.

    #55 4 years ago

    I'm guilty of restarting. I usually give the second ball a chance though before bailing on the game. Ball one bad, ball two bad, instant restart. It seems like the best scores and the best opportunities for long games come when you've had a killer first ball. Probably just wishful thinking though as it just as easily goes killer ball one, drain ball two, drain ball three.

    #56 4 years ago

    No.

    It's like starting with a crappy break on a game of pool.

    Lame.

    #57 4 years ago
    Quoted from CosmosBandit:

    Interesting. I see that "game restart" is enabled in the service menu but when I hold down the start button for like 30 seconds after the first ball nothing happens.

    That's strange. I just tested it on my STLE with both a one player and two player game. In both cases, the game reset when holding in the start button on ball two. You don't have to hold it down long. It should only take a couple seconds.

    #58 4 years ago

    Ok, this time it worked immediately. So from what I understand both first balls have to be finished in a two player game and the next ball started and I guess the same for a one player game, etc. Ok I get it but you have to learn the timing of when to do it. Good enough though. Lesson learned. I'm sure I know everything there is to know about my ST now...

    Mystery solved...

    #59 4 years ago

    I did not know you could restart a game buy holding down the start button. I will try that on my ST tomorrow. It's tempting to restart a bad 1st ball but seems like I always have a bad ball in a game. Sometimes you start strong then choke and other times you end strong.

    By accident, I did discover that holding the left flipper down and then hitting start puts the game in competition mode. I don't have a use for that mode but thought that was a cool feature.

    #60 4 years ago
    Quoted from jawjaw:

    It's tempting to restart a bad 1st ball but seems like I always have a bad ball in a game. Sometimes you start strong then choke and other times you end strong.

    jawjaw, I feel ya. My thing is this: If you get less than 1Mil on 2 first balls in a row (2 players) , not often by any means, then maybe do a restart. It's much nicer to have two firsts above 10 mil, you get psyched for the opportunities there and don't have to try to make up ground. Just an option anyways..

    CoS

    #61 4 years ago

    Only takes one ball to put up a record score if you're good!

    #62 4 years ago

    I believe if you have any interest in playing competitively, you must allow yourself opportunities to plan strategies against a poor ball one.

    Who cares about the high scores on your home game?

    #63 4 years ago
    Quoted from nephasth:

    Would you still call it cheating to plunge balls 2 & 3 and not hit them?

    Nope, that's quitting

    So's resetting. You're just skipping the plunge and ignore part.

    #64 4 years ago

    Never, I always have a pretty average first ball , my second ball is usually a lot better, example yesterday I was playing Metallica yesterday on location in tournament mode an scored 164,553,640 and that's really good for me, an that was all basically done on ball 2, ball 3 went no where I might have scored 2 million tops, an ball 1 was definatly nothing to brag about, so it definatly can happen..

    #65 4 years ago

    I didn't know you could reset.

    95% of the time, my first ball sucks then I wind up with a decent game.
    The few times I kill it on ball 1, I crap out on the next two.

    If every ball was a winner, it would get old fast.

    #66 4 years ago
    Quoted from kst8cat:

    Honestly I didn't even know that restarting in the middle of a game was even an option. I only got my game a couple of weeks ago, so before I had only ever played on location. Learn something new every day.

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    Quoted from CosmosBandit:

    Sweet. Good to know. Life is too short to waste on bad balls...

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    Quoted from jawjaw:

    I did not know you could restart a game buy holding down the start button.

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    Quoted from gliebig:

    I didn't know you could reset.

    If nothing else, some good came out of this thread because people learned something new!

    #67 4 years ago

    I never restart a game(full disclosure, mine are set to five bpp) My typical score distribution %(in no particular order) is 60, 35, 3, 1.5, 0.5(seriously). So choking on ball one is not a problem.

    Choking on ball five, now that's what pisses me off!

    #68 4 years ago
    Quoted from RobT:

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    If nothing else, some good came out of this thread because people learned something new!

    Good? I was looking at those posts and thinking, 'Oh no! More resetters™.'

    #69 4 years ago
    Quoted from mattster:

    Choking on ball five, now that's what pisses me off!

    I hope you're talking about WOZ.

    #70 4 years ago
    Quoted from notaflyingtoy:

    Good? I was looking at those posts and thinking, 'Oh no! More resetters™.'

    #71 4 years ago

    This thread encouraged me to play differently this weekend. I played only two player games against myself...always trying to beat the "other" me. Then, when you start with a bad ball...player 2 just wants to step and put a ton of points on the board. Then player 1 has to learn to play catch up.

    #72 4 years ago

    I've played two player games by myself. I feel it helped me improve a lot. Tried a four player game once but wasn't as interesting to me.

    #73 4 years ago

    Nevermore, quoth the raven.

    #74 4 years ago
    Quoted from ryanwanger:

    This thread encouraged me to play differently this weekend. I played only two player games against myself...always trying to beat the "other" me. Then, when you start with a bad ball...player 2 just wants to step and put a ton of points on the board. Then player 1 has to learn to play catch up.

    So who won?

    #75 4 years ago

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    #76 4 years ago

    We're not that serious at home, so yeah - restart if it makes you happy. Pinball is supposed to make you happy!

    #77 4 years ago

    I always play like I have money on the game. Or I had put quarters in the machine. Unless I am doing repairs.

    that being said......drain thread.....

    #78 4 years ago
    Quoted from jibmums:

    Every single time.

    Quoted from SilverBallz:

    Restart every time!

    If losing the ball so quickly was my fault, then I don't restart. But when the machine kicks it of the table without even giving me a chance, then I do. However, this does push up the games played count on the six games I purchased NIB (including BBB).

    #79 4 years ago

    I have had great balls after an epic fail and only end up wishing that my first ball had been better. I usually end up with an average score despite my great second ball. Pinball is really about stringing three great balls together, which can take a long, long time. Despite that I really try to not hit that reset button. It doesn't seem fair somehow.

    #80 4 years ago

    I tried the hold start button reset today on my ST and it worked! Very cool.

    #81 4 years ago

    My kids do not have a dad that's a quitter. Good life lessons can be learned playing games.

    #82 4 years ago

    Restarts are for newbs and losers.... Kick the habit!

    When I have a really poor first ball, I usually try something new with the rest of the game. Like concentrate on one particular shot (a hard one), or try for ramp combos, or go for a game mode or approach that I don't typically do. Sometimes the game turns around or I learn something new. If not, at least it's good practice.

    #83 4 years ago
    Quoted from n1teowl:

    Pinball is really about stringing three great balls together

    I knew I should have drained this thread.

    For me pinball has always been about getting the highest score possible and winning games, whether three balls, four balls, or how ever many balls you get in one game.

    A restart is a quit.

    #84 4 years ago

    A restart IS a quit. I agree. It all comes down to whether you care if you are a quitter or not. I personally, want to do the best that i can on every ball. It's just that when fortune favors you, you can really rack up your score.

    #85 4 years ago

    I quit drinking. Once or twice...

    #86 4 years ago

    I cannot claim same (said from the hotel bar). Literally.

    #87 4 years ago

    Restarts are for pussies! Power through or go home.

    #88 4 years ago

    When they jacked up games from $.25 to $.50 and then took away our 5-ball play and made it 3-ball, and then jacked it up again to $.75 or a buck on location, my friends and I felt we were getting ripped off.

    Setting all my games to 5-ball, removing the tilts, and allowing restarts is how I get to finally claim that back, in some twisted way.

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    #89 4 years ago

    As I stated earlier in this thread, I never restart games. That being said, there is no game I have ever owned that makes me want to restart more often than TWD. Talk about brutal!

    #90 4 years ago
    Quoted from gweempose:

    As I stated earlier in this thread, I never restart games. That being said, there is no game I have ever owned that makes me want to restart more often than TWD. Talk about brutal!

    Really? And that's without drains from the pops??

    #91 4 years ago

    Restarts are for losers w/no confidence. Usually most good games are one good ball. Re start in a tournament and see what happens ...........

    #92 4 years ago
    Quoted from RobT:

    Really? And that's without drains from the pops??

    I get some drains from the pops now and then, but it's not the obscene amount that some people describe. Even without the SDTM drains, the game is just hard as hell. You are forced to go for the drop targets if you want to start the modes, and there is no safe way to do so. Combine that with the two magnets and the wicked slings, and it's a recipe for disaster. You would think given all these facts that I would hate the game, but it's just the opposite. Because it's so difficult, you get an even bigger rush when you manage to stack a bunch of stuff and score big.

    #93 4 years ago
    Quoted from pinkid:

    Restarts are for losers w/no confidence. Usually most good games are one good ball. Re start in a tournament and see what happens ...........

    I need 5 good balls to even have a chance of getting in the tournament for Maverick. I've only been able to do it once, ever. So, yeah no problem restarting once in a while. Especially on a first ball missed skill shot.

    #94 4 years ago

    I shut that feature off on my machines so the temptation isn't there.

    #95 4 years ago

    Some of my highest scoring games have been "Last Ball desperation" NEVER GIVE UP !!!

    #96 4 years ago

    Never, besides when I play my IM ball 2 and 3 are also likely to be terrible...

    #97 4 years ago

    Keep playing. My wife started shitty on BSD turned it around and scored 3 billion. I will never touch that score.

    #98 4 years ago

    Sometimes, it's not so much about how many balls you have left. It can be more about maintaining a level of focus.

    For instance, I've been known to have a killer ball and get an extra ball or two, then stupidly drain my next few in a row.

    #99 4 years ago

    During LouArcEx I realized my wife is a hustler. First time either of us had played any given machine, I get off to a decent start while hers aren't so good.... in the spirit of friendly competition I feel relived that I should get a higher score, nyah nyah pbbbbt. Until those effing ball threes! I don't know how she turned it around all the time, but damn. More often than not, she came out on top...

    ...of course that meant the times that turnabout went to my favor were even sweeter. And I still have the consoling warm glow of the top score at home... for a little while at least, ha ha.

    But really, the very appeal of pinball is that while you have some control, anything can happen when you least expect it. What fortune does the next ball hold?

    Eventually you learn the difference between a gyp ball and a $#!t ball. Gyp balls are why the "ball save" feature was invented... so yeah, it happens. As opposed to when I have a $#!^ ball I know I effed up somehow and need to do better. And sometimes chance luck is a bitch. Either way you gotta roll with it.

    From "just one more game!" to "just one more ball!", the possible outcomes are infinite, aren't they?

    #100 4 years ago
    Quoted from goingincirclez:

    From "just one more game!" to "just one more ball!", the possible outcomes are infinite, aren't they?

    Well said sir.

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