I had to replace the plastic triangular pice for the diverter and can't get the bent metal cover back on the diverter assembly. The coil lugs seem to be in the way, but all of the other coils have the lugs on the other side of the spring. Is my coil on backwards?

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They are clocked the same way, but the lugs on yours are on the spring side, not the coil stop side like I had done. Thanks for the response and picture. This thing is so close to 100%, now just have to troubleshoot the POLICE letters never lighting up.

Even in attract mode? They are the only ones that won't turn on ever. New bulbs didn't do the trick unfortunately. Lamp matrix column seems fine as the shoot again and extra ball lights work fine.

Mine started doing two interesting things recently. The car is coming down right after ball 1 locks and releases it. Lock 2 is what flashes after that, so it's thinking 1 is already locked. It's not kicking out what would be ball 2.

Also, the right side drop bank isn't resetting and when I do it manually, dropped targets don't score.

And suggestions on either would be great.

It would be nice if CPR considered doing these some day. That has to be the nicest playfield I've ever seen for PF. This title more than any other I know of always has paint missing in places.

A full scan would be great. I'm clearing a sanded playfield now before putting an overlay on. I scanned that PF and recreated the art in AutoCAD. Doing the second coat of clear tonight and will have it sanded this weekend and hopefully the overlay on soon and cleared over. It's a big project, but the paint comes off so easily on PF that half the job is already done.

Not from mine. The only thing keeping most of mine together is the sheet of mylar over it.

I'm not an artist, and what I did for Joust (the project referenced above) will work for me. But to provide overlays to others, my artistic skills probably aren't up to snuff.

How about "Do you have the ability to send it to CPR to scan?" PF has the least durable playfield from any game I can think of and that NOS one might be the best way to have many, many trashed pf's replaced.

Congrats! That's super cool.

On the right drop bank, if I hit the top drop it gives me the capture and sweeping bonus. It then resets the bank. If I do the middle one first it gives regular points and resets the bank as well. The bottom drop acts normally. Since this is on a board, not loose wires, I’m not sure what to be looking for.

The car is pretty rigidly in there. Take the balls out and anything that might be hiding in the coin box area of the cab and go for it.

I’d say you are starting off with a pretty nice example. Mine is “fully” mylar’d and the shooting gallery between the shooter lane and skill shot spinner is very worn. Yours looks pretty nice there. The dirt tells me it has a bunch of plays but the wear says well cared for.

Big fat rubbers on the main ramp, and crank both to 8. Still possible to repeat a bunch of millions, but way less often.

There is a plastic part of the diverter that was getting stuck due to wear on my machine. I ended up replacing that and it fixed my diverter issues. Prior to that, the balls would never go to the car, only to the other path.

For you it sounds like the limit switches might be acting up. If the car doesn't trigger them every so often it things there are issues and keeps the car at the bottom. It won't allow for multiball, but also won't get stuck balls due to a failed car. Check your belt. Mine was terrible and so dry it couldn't grab the pulley that moves the car. I actually got tubing from ACE Hardware (for maybe $3) that is working great instead of $20 for a new belt and waiting for shipping.

It's actually a pretty clever geometry. There is one coil that actuates the diverter and in a properly working one it cycles it in and out. Think of it like a clicky pen, as it operates similarly.

Has anyone said they are going to be doing playfields? CPR, Hardtop, Mirco?

$1000 USD when using NGG as a comparable playfield that is listed with info. My game has factory mylar on it, so I don't NEED a new one. That will be something I have to think about for a while.

What can I do about cheap drains down the left side of the pops. Most often happening from the skillshot kickout. Need a way to bump the ball over more when it glances the long ring along the left side.

Is anyone even working on this?

Wow. I have my share of System 11's and Police Force art has the worst durability of the 11's I own. Mine has a ton of mylar so it still looks pretty good, but where there wasn't protection it is very worn.

Are you planning on clearcoating it when you are done?

I had an interesting thing for System 11's happen recently. When I turned on the game the GI came on and the little buzzing sound clip the speaker plays happened, but then nothing else. I turned it off and opened up the head to look at the 3 red LEDs and turned it on again. The game booted normally. I played a few games and everything seemed fine. I'm going to leave it off for a while and watch the LEDs next time I power it on, just in case it fails.

The main reason I'm asking questions today is that my diverter will click 5 times on occasion. Sometimes it seems random, but other times it's right after a ramp was made and I think it's trying to change from the lock path to the inlane return path. I've had this game a few years and it's had about 2000 plays in that time. When I got it the diverter was seized up. I replaced the moving part and cleaned the gunk off of the mounted part and it's been great since then. Don't see mention ion the manual of 5 clicks being an error message of sorts that the game does.

Mine has a Ford 6x9. Would not recommend.

So I fininished re-rubbering the playfield as well as cleaning the whole thing since I had the ramps out. After that I played a few games. The diverter was doing the clicking thing again. 5 clicks is most definitely a signal. I had to take several connectors off from in the head, but I pulled the whole PF out to access that mech. The triangular diverter piece was binding. Remember, I replaced this a few years ago so it isn't factory.

Manually cycling it I saw that the pivot point of the part with the triangular path was tilting against the shaft it was supposed to pivot on and slide along. I put a washer under the pivot piece and that ended up taking out enough of the slop to stop the binding. I tried two washers and that was too thick and it wouldn't catch the ramped part of the triangular path. Going to put it back in the game now and see if it's actually fixed...

The skill shot one?

I’ve seen people asking for these. Are there any games that are missing them? The one on my game is sort of a hack. It was welded together and has a weight welded to the back of the part where the ball hits. Was like that when I got it. Curious as to how many are put together like mine just to keep the feature.

Can anyone weigh theirs? Mine is such a hack I have no idea how much it’s supposed to weigh at all. It can be a weight with the disk that breaks the opto.

Is that NOS playfield getting cleared? I would suggest doing that for sure. Without Mylar PF has got to have some of the least durable art ever. Mine has Mylar and where it doesn’t, just below the spinner, inlanes, outlanes, and other spots are worn to the wood.

Do you have the flap at the top back where it makes the bend?

I designed a spinner replacement with some changes and a little extra reinforcement. I have 5 of them for now and have made a shop listing for it. These are not limited to cause a panic buy situation. I want feedback from the first 5 buyers on things I might not have already done to make the best part possible. The buyers of these 5 spinners will get whatever future final version for the price of shipping when that day comes.

This is my first shop listing so wanted to make sure it's set up correctly. It is set up for US only, shipping is included. At least it should be. If you are out of the US reach out to me and we can figure out shipping.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1250-tucson-pinball/03534-police-force-spinner

Thanks, hopefully this will fix the supply issue so people can play their games with a skill shot.

I set my center ramp to 8 shots for millions and then put giant yellow rubber post sleeves on. It's dangerous. I've only ever seen two instances where players were able to score a few million off of it. Once the guy got 17 million (plus the shots to build it up) in a row. That was crazy. literally his first time playing the game and hasn't done it since.

When the obvious shot is dangerous and you have to play the rest of the game it's quite balanced. Jackpot and Top Cop have to be earned and it makes you shoot all over the place.

Nice. My ramps are probably just like your old ones. The center ramp works, but I have fat yellow post rubbers there to punish you when you miss, and you will. I also have the center ramp set to 8 shots before millions. I’ve been playing it a lot the last week or so. Really fun game when the center ramp isn’t nearly as enticing.

The right ramp isn’t great but isn’t unusable either. It’s broken at the left side entrance so a ball in just the wrong spot goes airborne into the upper back right corner but normally comes back down.

I need to get new ramps but have put them off a little to get other parts that were really needed. My Steps ramp on Funhouse is really bad and the Starship Fantasy ramp just came in for that. PF ramps soon-ish at this point.

Looks correct compared to mine.

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I was able to do them one at a time through the coil test and they all seemed the same. Is there a way to do them all at once?

I played a game and looked at them without the translite on when the game was over. The center 2 near the mid/bottom seemed brighter than the top left, but the top right was about the same as the top left. Nothing was dim though.

I had this happen recently with a diverter that was only a few years old. I took it off, cleaned the sliding surfaces, and it still did it. It was binding on the sliding rod and I put a washer on it to fix the issue. I can’t remember exactly what happened but I think I did a write up earlier in this thread.

I have another run of printed spinners finished. I have to trim them a little bit will have them posted soon I hope.