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Plea for an update. Anything. Really.

By Rick432

8 years ago


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#4 8 years ago

I hear your pain, while updates of the road to production / production started / production hiccups / production hiccups overcome / loading onto truck would be really appreciated and good for them as a company IMHO; its not even 1/3 of Q2 yet so theres time.

If DP is gun shy after Phil meltdown fine, but can go look at the heighway thread of how being totally transparent can be done and doesn't blow up in your face. He's opening talking about delays due to QC on some parts and is getting praise for it. Imagine this (and spooky) is going to set the new standard for startups going forward after the two most secretive startups are/have imploded. Stern can be silent cause they are proven.. And no pre orders.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/heighway-pinball-official-pinside-thread

Anyways they seem to be technically sound, so I have little doubt's about the product.. Just had the expectation we'd enter Q2 with production porn.. Which still should come eventually.

And yeah like inhomearcades said, you can email barry and he does respond. Seems like more work for him; I try to keep bugging him down to once every few weeks.

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#15 8 years ago

Um, a bit cliche.. But.. It needs to be said. Did someone steal their rug? Does this one have sentimental value.

#18 8 years ago

Not me man, the Lebowski iconography in the perimeter is sweet and well done.

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#29 8 years ago

That's from april and was posted somewhere around here at that time. I figured it was a production prototype or the original prototype with the PF stickers.

#36 8 years ago

Next to eggbert.

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#74 8 years ago

The primary thing I'm most anxious to see (outside of my game getting unloaded off truck) is final approvals from universal on everything. Seems like the a/v clips are still being worked through universal/actors and I guess in Philip Hoffman's case the estate.

Secondary is wiring looms. I dunno why but shit doesn't get real until there's wiring looms.

Aside: Wonder if in this day and age you could "autotune" the original vocals just enough to not be legally the same voice..ala.. Computer voice actor? . Maybe I should get on that.. Sounds profitable if you can survive the initial lawsuits. .

#79 8 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

Last I heard, John Goodman was absolutely not going to let his voice / likeness be used in the game. Has that changed?

in a personal email to me from Barry from March (so, could be out of date by now) he tried to clarify that rumor which came out of phil meltdown: "As far as I know, Universal and JG are just not on speaking terms for some issue I don't know about, but Universal is still the owner of the right and as long as there are no new assets JG has nothing to do with giving approval on anything - it's all Universal."

I was actually asking him pointedly about the over the line scene.. because of the other rumor that JG wanted the gun gone. He said that had nothing to do with JG, all universal and "When we first negotiated the license I told Universal that particular scene with JG - over the line - had to be in the deal and they told me that wasn't going to be a problem, so I presume it isn't."

This conversation was back in March though... so, who knows now.. universal could be jerking them around or made promises they couldn't honor afterall.. so, waiting and seeing. I still hope though that if universal screws them on the audio/video, we can add the real stuff in ourselves in our home environments.

Ps - sorry barry if any of this was off the record

#84 8 years ago

It was during Phil meltdown, it was about there not being new assets available. We as laypeople don't know what is a new or old or custom asset though so it's stabbing in the dark as to the end effect.

I wonder about Phillip Hoffman.. He was alive when this project started.. That would have to complicate things a bit.

#116 8 years ago

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#118 8 years ago

Something about aggression and not standing for it.

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#127 8 years ago

Prior to expo reveal, TBL threads were pretty quiet, only would get super active when NSNL came out.

Expo reveal put them on the map then Phil meltdown (right or wrong) spoiled a lot of that energy and brought some of the peanut gallery.

So this is more return to norm? Plus we've seen the entire game now, the only reveals left of significance I can see are:
- announcing a/v clip approvals and hope they are up front IF there's any problems and what their mitigations are.
- once the above box is checked they could start to show a lot more software / LCD action.
- games on line
- games loading onto a truck or container
- unboxing threads

#130 8 years ago

I have looked up his Facebook page a few times, last week in fact. Doesn't talk about his health but still posting occasionally.

#145 8 years ago

If you look at the the time lines.. Say they do get first games out end of sept. That means in October they might be two weeks into production.. That is not the time to be headed out internationally (for them) to attend a show given how small the team is.. So yeah, don't read into it too much or if you do, try to think positively.. They'll be too damn busy getting games into crates

#148 8 years ago

And as long as cointaker there, they still may have a presence.. Maybe he'll have a real game and be taking orders

#175 8 years ago

Two things:
- As TBL #17, I see at least 17 play fields, excellent
- 3 weeks mandatory vacation.. tell me more

IMHO only: Still waiting for wiring harnesses.. having playfields ready is an important precondition for getting started with assembly but so is harnesses. Maybe they think that's boring and will skip ahead in the next update with games on the line.. dunno.. I think even 1 game off the line in basically a month (a month is nothing in manufacturing) will be a miracle.. esp as people come back from vacation hangovers

Will also second that a A/V clip approval progress report is a chief thing I'm waiting to see in a near term release as they probably want to put some software in the games before they ship

Anyways, appreciate the update none the less

#187 8 years ago
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:

Hmmm ... approx. $9,034 and no rug shown, but legs and trim look almost chrome-like.

The only game I see there is the CGI one so what the trim looks like (to me it looks almost black) is irrelevant.

They need to fix the text as it looks like they pulled it from DP website or something. Says "Pre-order your game today!" .. That ship has sailed

#189 8 years ago

true from a knowing what you're getting point of view. Back when we had a our FAQ answered, the question as to whether there would be a full blown game flyer with all the details (like trim and all that) as asked and they said yes. Seems like they should get that sorted soon if distributors are starting to take orders. Wasn't ministry of pinball the ones that jumped the gun last year and had AFMr and MBr ads in expo flyer? Seems like they get ahead of themselves some

#191 8 years ago
Quoted from Rensh:

Indeed, in EXPO 2014 flyer MoP advertise was hinting that AFM would be next remake. Pls do note it was suggesting, no hard fact.

yeah, and there was also a monster bash hint. I'm not sure they would be even hinting at something unless those two games are (or were) actually in the pipe though. anyways, not related to TBL I suppose progress with distributor setup is an expression of confidence of games hitting here soonish.

#197 8 years ago

Not enough quotes these days; attaching as a reminder. Hopefully not a violation of talking about religion

Walter Sobchak: I'm saying, I see what you're getting at, Dude, he kept the money. My point is, here we are, it's shabbas, the sabbath, which I'm allowed to break only if it's a matter of life or death...
The Dude: Will you come off it, Walter? You're not even fucking Jewish, man.
Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you talkin' about?
The Dude: Man, you're fucking Polish Catholic...
Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you talking about? I converted when I married Cynthia! Come on, Dude!
The Dude: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah...
Walter Sobchak: And you know this!
The Dude: Yeah, and five fucking years ago you were divorced.
Walter Sobchak: So what are you saying? When you get divorced you turn in your library card? You get a new license? You stop being Jewish?
The Dude: It's all a part of your sick Cynthia thing, man. Taking care of her fucking dog. Going to her fucking synagogue. You're living in the fucking past.
Walter Sobchak: Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax...
[shouting]
Walter Sobchak: YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVIN' IN THE FUCKIN' PAST!

#203 8 years ago

I'm sure something is in the works as it is the last month of the quarter they said they'd start having games come off the line. But yeah, agree.. waiting is hard

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#208 8 years ago

OK, lets visualize getting a NSNL this week.. If you will it it is no dream.

#215 8 years ago

I got a delayed response to a question.. Think its all asses and elbows right getting production going so email is lower priority plus may be piling up a bit since we're all getting antsy. Think we're on the verge of some cool stuff.

#219 8 years ago

Yeah rumor mill looks positive right now

#232 8 years ago

Those are the older unapproved ones.

Well, hopefully next week for update . It springs eternal. Do you guys get deflated at 12pm PST / 3pm EST each day as well when you know it's probably too late in the evening for them to send out a NSNL from the Netherlands.

#251 8 years ago

I didn't get the NSNl yet I swear I'm not a nihilist!

#252 8 years ago

Never mind just came through.

Feels like there needs to be a joke about the box being a rendering / ala GOT but I got nothing

Also key here : "We will show you clips of the gameplay after Universal approved them. "

I take it to mean to clips have been approved now and its extra approval to show us gameplay video in a YouTube video or something. Seems like on a short leash / licensing sucks.

#259 8 years ago

I'm OK with every instance of no $ in Lebowski.. So no complaints.

Quoted from Deaconblooze:

"The guys in the factory are working on the first TBL's to finalize the 'bill of material' and double checking all assembly instructions. "

Yeah, it must be minor ommissons as right before that they say:

We are close to sending the first TBL to customer #1, but we know that we will miss our deadline. The step from building a prototype to building production models just takes more time than we expected. We are so sorry to disappoint you guys and can only ask for a little more patience..

They cant be both finalizing the BOM and close to sending to customer #1 unless there is a extremely small gap between the BOM as it stands and final. Can just chalk it up to them missing something / rookie mistake somewhere IMHO

#261 8 years ago

Per the owners list thread, pinman2020 claimed it

#272 8 years ago

Maybe the parts issue causing delay was a miscommunication about 300 white Russians

#275 8 years ago

Maybe just the wording.. The brevity thing. They didn't change the bottle icon too much, but did have to spell out coffee liquor instead.. A bit wordy

#285 8 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Is there some valid reason that the entire update can't be posted in this thread?
Or do you have to belong to the super duper top secret society of TBL pre-orderers?

Theres just a lot of cut and paste.. And what have yous.. Especially from a cell phone which is about all I use to access pinside (blocked pinside from myself on work computer cause I have no self control).

Also, what do you want from fans of a stoner movie man.. Send me your email and I'll fwd and you can post it or anyone else that upvoted

#287 8 years ago

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#288 8 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Ozno - what the fuck is your problem? Fucking asshole.

Ah I was wondering if people were complaining about him or eggbert.. Thanks.

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#330 8 years ago

Maybe this is our coin mech gate seems like a problem where these games / boutique are a bit fluid in BOM till they really get to production.

But yeah, hopefully they aren't oblivious to the fact that the prototypes set expectations. I can't whine too much as I was a day one order when all we had was the theme.. But still.

#336 8 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

Maybe they decided to put instruction cards there instead? [mind... blown!]

That's what the internet is for

#339 8 years ago

I'm sure most stuff is safe but this might be an area where the either always intended there to be a difference (poorly communicated) or when they got down to BOM cost the difference between stock apron vs custom apron was too great.. Again, poorly communicated. Which is not unusual for this project unfortunately.

#341 8 years ago

Yeah, i feel guilty about whining about something that has no effect on game play nor will anyone other than me notice. However, having seen the prototype apron, and not seeing the new apron, I like the prototype and speaks to the premium nature of their product.

Then again, I'd love for my game to ship ASAP so that wins over apron

#354 8 years ago

At least we've reached the usual level of discontent where an update usually shows up soon. If they had a YouTube video of game play with call outs and everything, it would make the apron go down a little easier

#365 8 years ago

Uh, Dude, uh, tomorrow's already the tenth.

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#371 8 years ago
Quoted from Deaconblooze:

that was supposed to be there in the first place.

We don't know what was supposed to be there in the first place. It could of been always their intent that the apron for the protos were a temporary thing, but not communicated.. Allowing us(including me) to assume a lot about the gap between prototypes and production. Agree though that if I had to pay for it, I wouldn't be interested. Will have to see what the new apron looks like.

Hopefully at expo we get a good look at what a production game is going to be. Whether it's a game or PowerPoint.

#383 8 years ago

I assume a NSNL comes out to coincide with it.. Hopefully ahead of the talk

Doesn't look like streaming though.. so those in attendance take good notes

#392 8 years ago

The prototypes had some breakdowns . But, DP built a dedicated test rig for the redesign and shared a video of it 7 months ago:

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#422 7 years ago

I'd suggest people feeling antsy contact DP vs wondering aloud here? First approach more likely to get your concerns resolved vs peanut gallery chiming in to make you feel more antsy.

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