hi rolf that is how i have taken it apart, all switches removed
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Hi widget2k4
the first JPG shows the situation on Shangri La (Williams). The second JPG shows "Speak Easy" - the cam next to the real motor is an IMPULSE cam (two times five teeth on the outside around on the cam) --- the switchstack on this very first cam next to the real motor has THREE switches in the switchstack - the next cam has in the switchstack SIX switches etc. --- did You take-apart switchstacks ? Greetings Rolf
Hi widget2k4
when they did manufacture the pin: Wires are cut just as long so they fit --- see the second JPG in post-52 --- can you take an "switchstack made of THREE switches" and move it to "cam next to the real motor" ? Then an "switchstack made of SIX switches" and move it to the next cam etc. ?
Do the wires on the switchstacks then lay "natural" - "nice-looking" ? Can You do this with all switchstacks ? IF (if, if) there is "doubt": We must take the information from my JPG "very first switchstack has three switches - shown on schematics "1-F" and "7-F" and "7-F" --- look-up and say "switch on schematics 1-F has wire-color-MA-NE, has wire-color-AM" etc --- IDENTIFYING switchstacks by colors of wires (shown in the schematics). Greetings Rolf
About "repairing" worn / damaged cams: I never has taken apart - I never had to fix such cams --- I could do some guessing (epoxy ? / two-component glue ? attaching on the sides some cardbord made "helping, new" cam ) --- I could do some guessing but You have the pin - can look-at the situation and You do guessing (?). Greetings Rolf
Hi rolf,
Just want to say a big thank you for all your help and expert knowledge, pin is working 100 percent perfect now thanks to you taking the time to help me out with the schematics, turned out to be the lane out switch that you said 
Would never have found it if it wasn't for you.
Thank you
Hi widget2k4
thanks for saying "thanks". YOU made the observation "manually activating the S-Special-Relay makes the fault on the 10k-points-Relay to dissapear". Lucky us - it was an playfield-feature fault and the schematics of the 4-player-pin was helpful. Thanks for "keeping at the problem - writing".
IF (if, if) You want to dig into "reading schematics": These schematics in spanish are not first choice --- xsvtoys made an excellent "walkthrough" through his Bally Bon Voyage: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/em-schematic-fully-described-from-beginning-to-end-bally-bon-voyage --- Bally and Williams have the same logic --- Gottlieb is different in stepping through the players / balls. ONE thing: The Bon Voyage is an ONE-Player-ADD-A-BALL-Pin --- stepping the ball in an ADD-A-BALL-Pin is a bit different compared with ONE-Player-REPLAY-Pin(s).
When You read xsvtoys document: You will know A LOT about pinball-machines. Greetings Rolf
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