excuse my ignorance .
Yeah, plays all the way, but cosmetics not perfect. Peoples definition varies, but it has to play correctly, no broken features. The cosmetic definition ranges from a little wear at high traffic areas, to totally blown out playfield.
The condition that I love to buy.
Everything should be there, no missing parts. Plastics might be cracked. Wear around inserts. Cabinet can be somewhat to very rough ("Was this whipped with tire chains?" is a question I might be asking the seller.)
It is the condition you would find many of the pins in if you went to a random arcade/bar in the 1980's and 1990's. A game that you can play a full and enjoyable game on without any problems, but it may not be much to look at.
I know this post is old but it was nice to find, especially for someone getting back into the hobby after 15 years and trying to get a handle on all the new terms.
Quoted from pinbuoy:I know this post is old but it was nice to find, especially for someone getting back into the hobby after 15 years and trying to get a handle on all the new terms.
Welcome back , hope you enjoyed your detour.
Quoted from pinbuoy:I know this post is old but it was nice to find, especially for someone getting back into the hobby after 15 years and trying to get a handle on all the new terms.
Good luck but to be honest the terms are fluff and meaningless.
Player's Condition can be anything from blown out, near 0 artwork on the cabinet, water damage, planking, massive wear on the playfield, ie an eyesore that is barely playable due to broken parts to a pretty nice original machine. Everyone views it differently and its a worthless term.
HUO, means the person *thinks* it was never on route. Doesn't mean it was well maintained. Can still have pf wear, can still be planked, faded, etc. It is also a worthless term.
Best bet is to learn what to look for in terms of condition and ignore terms.
Quoted from pinbuoy:See there ya go.....there's another....."planking" ?
that's when a pinball hobbyist lies down on top of a game, in order to determine whether it has plate glass or tempered.
Player's Condition definition: Worn out turd that barely functions and looks like ass. I keed I keed
Quoted from pinbuoy:See there ya go.....there's another....."planking" ?
When a machine is not kept in a temperature enviroment the expansion and contraction of the wood can cause verticle lines to appear in the wood. This will split through the paint and clearcoat. It can happen to a cabinet or playfield. The *fix* would be to repaint the whole thing so it hurts the value quite a bit.
This is what I call a "player" condition pin. My High hand was a real beater, planked wore out playfield, burnt wiring, trashed cabinet, flaking backglass, etc, etc... but I wanted to play it & get some repair experience. I did not really care about playfield paint, I just wanted a pin that worked 100% & looked ok in my game room.
I fixed mechanicals, Painted cab, triple thicked backglass to prevent more paint loss, & just cleaned & 2-pac cleared playfield with spraymax 2000 rattle cans. Turned out just as I had hoped & if I decide to touch up the playfield later I can do so & just clear over it again.
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